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Will Canon step up to Zeiss with a 55mm 1.4L?
« on: February 19, 2013, 03:51:19 AM »
It seems Zeiss's new 55mm f/1.4 lens which promises to be as sharp as current Canon 50mm lenses are at f/5.6 wide open is making a lot of news (50mm lenses tend to fall far behind other primes for image quality, delivering what 24mm and 85mm primes deliver wide open at f/4.0). In my own quest for a great 50mm prime I've looked at every 50mm prime thats ef compatible or ef adaptable made since 1970 and all deliever this mediocre image quality (though being 55mm is likely key in allowing the iq).

So Zeiss has cracked the high quality normal prime mystery that has eluded all other manufactures for decades.

The question is, now that the cat's out of the bag, will Canon fire back with a 55mm 1.4L?

If you're interested here's a video describing the new lens. It's worth watching.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mEj6CqZWMk&feature=player_embedded#!
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Will Canon step up to Zeiss with a 55mm 1.4L?
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Re: Will Canon step up to Zeiss with a 55mm 1.4L?
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2013, 05:55:56 AM »
I do not think a 55mm prime lens is in Canon's scheme of things.
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Re: Will Canon step up to Zeiss with a 55mm 1.4L?
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2013, 05:59:52 AM »
Pretty unlikely I'd say too.
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Re: Will Canon step up to Zeiss with a 55mm 1.4L?
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2013, 06:07:56 AM »
If it's a 50 or 55 I don't care about, but if Canon decided to make a 50mm f1.4 L and it was the size and weight of the 85 1.2 I don't care. I care about them matching the Zeiss f1.4 (which is VERY high up on my list now as I love 50mm) with the AF of the current 50 L.

Canon needs a good 50. Seeing the samples from the Zeiss makes me very excited about it, can I live with MF? Not so sure, I mean, I can shoot a lot with a 50(55) mf, but there's a lot of things I would love to shoot with that IQ, but needing AF.

And to own both the 50 L and the Zeiss 55 f1.4 is an option, but not when I also want a 24-70, since I don't cr@p money...
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Re: Will Canon step up to Zeiss with a 55mm 1.4L?
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2013, 09:14:14 PM »
Would you be willing to drop $4k on a 55mm Canon lens?
Reading between the lines, that seems to be the expected price for the ZE beauty.

I already own 7 ZE lenses and this is way too rich for my blood.

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Re: Will Canon step up to Zeiss with a 55mm 1.4L?
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2013, 11:07:22 PM »
Would you be willing to drop $4k on a 55mm Canon lens?
Reading between the lines, that seems to be the expected price for the ZE beauty.

I already own 7 ZE lenses and this is way too rich for my blood.

I'd be willing to easily drop 4k on the Zeiss 55mm 1.4 if it had half decent USM autofocus. My style of shooting requires autofocus, and I'd love to complete my prime collection with such a lens.

All I want is the best f/2.8 zooms and the best f/1.4 primes covering 21mm to 200mm.

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Re: Will Canon step up to Zeiss with a 55mm 1.4L?
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2013, 11:09:39 PM »
Canon is not in competition with Zeiss.  Zeiss sells very nice manual focus lenses to those with deep pockets. 
 
Canon is and has always been about mass production of cameras and lenses where they target value for the dollar.  By keeping prices down, they are able to turn out high volumes of lenses, and spread the very high cost of tooling and development over many lenses.
 
Zeiss isn't interested in that market, they know they can't compete at the price Canon charges.  They have their niche and do well with it.

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« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2013, 11:09:39 PM »

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Re: Will Canon step up to Zeiss with a 55mm 1.4L?
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2013, 11:41:32 PM »
All I want is the best f/2.8 zooms and the best f/1.4 primes covering 21mm to 200mm.

you are easy to please  :o
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Re: Will Canon step up to Zeiss with a 55mm 1.4L?
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2013, 02:17:40 AM »
Yes, of course i would pay that. I have wanted a great 50 since I bought my 350 D and the current L I find to only work properly with AF on the 1d X and even then.. But the issue I have with it is the iq one AF point off center really isn't fantastic. I had more keepers with the Zeiss 28mm than with any of AF lenses in the 5d2.

I have said many times , why is the 1,5kg only acceptable weight for a 70-200? If I can carry that, I can and would love to, carry a 50 that weighs that if it means extraordinary IQ, and this Zeiss seems to it.
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Re: Will Canon step up to Zeiss with a 55mm 1.4L?
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2013, 09:34:25 PM »
Canon is not in competition with Zeiss.  Zeiss sells very nice manual focus lenses to those with deep pockets. 
 
Canon is and has always been about mass production of cameras and lenses where they target value for the dollar.  By keeping prices down, they are able to turn out high volumes of lenses, and spread the very high cost of tooling and development over many lenses.
 
Zeiss isn't interested in that market, they know they can't compete at the price Canon charges.  They have their niche and do well with it.

Honestly if Zeiss simply had flawless autofocus I bet that their sales would increase 100 fold.

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Re: Will Canon step up to Zeiss with a 55mm 1.4L?
« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2013, 10:43:30 PM »
Canon is not in competition with Zeiss.  Zeiss sells very nice manual focus lenses to those with deep pockets. 
 
Canon is and has always been about mass production of cameras and lenses where they target value for the dollar.  By keeping prices down, they are able to turn out high volumes of lenses, and spread the very high cost of tooling and development over many lenses.
 
Zeiss isn't interested in that market, they know they can't compete at the price Canon charges.  They have their niche and do well with it.

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I tried a 50 1.4 Zeiss, canon 1.4 and Canon 50 1.2. In my opinion the Zeiss was BY FAR the sharpest wide open and had the best IQ overall. It failed to perform in an event setting, which this lens is not for. I honestly found the Canon 1.4 to be better then the 1.2 in almost every aspect. It was only marginally sharper at f/2.0 and focused a bit faster. I did not experience much focus shift but it was there. The value of the 1.4 is FAR greater and the return on investment much quicker then the 1.2 for me. It makes me feel bad because I reaaaaaaaly wanted the 1.2 to be that much better. All my testing was done on a 5d3.

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Re: Will Canon step up to Zeiss with a 55mm 1.4L?
« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2013, 02:11:34 PM »
Honestly if Zeiss simply had flawless autofocus I bet that their sales would increase 100 fold.
So basically Zeiss has NOT "cracked the high quality normal prime mystery" ;)
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Re: Will Canon step up to Zeiss with a 55mm 1.4L?
« Reply #12 on: February 26, 2013, 02:42:11 PM »
No need, 50L is king.  8)

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Re: Will Canon step up to Zeiss with a 55mm 1.4L?
« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2013, 03:51:40 PM »
No need, 50L is king.  8)

I can agree with that, I love it for sure, but only on the 1d X, never found any other camera that could tame the AF precision and the only camera I really felt i I got it 100% with calibration. Do I like the trade-off of sharpness for the creay bokeh, of course, I don't shoot test charts. And coupled with the 1dx it really shines. Tracking my kids at f1.8 results in some great captures at 12 fps. It's small light, built like a tank and sealed. What more could you want?

I would keep it even if I bought the Zeiss 55...
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Re: Will Canon step up to Zeiss with a 55mm 1.4L?
« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2013, 04:16:20 PM »
What more could you want?

Cut the price a little?
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