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« Reply #120 on: February 19, 2013, 03:43:08 PM »
The way I see it the 7D and 5D lines should be launched in parallel with identical specs, one tweaked for FF the other for APSC. Otherwise there's consumer unfair.

It doesn't feel right having to pay $1,000 extra (5D3) and get better specs from a cheaper model (either it be faster fps, built-in GPS, etc.). Now, that doesn't mean bring down 7D2 specs or charge it extra, it means pull together your Canon marketing!! It seems 5D, 7D departments work independently against each other.

Synchronize lines: 7D3/5D3, 7D4/5D4. That's the way to pace with consumer. We saw amalgamation of 1D, well it's time for a clearer product strategy overall.

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« Reply #120 on: February 19, 2013, 03:43:08 PM »

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« Reply #121 on: February 19, 2013, 03:49:22 PM »
Slam in a FF sensor with these MP and this would've been an awesome 5D3!  LOL!

Still, it's a pretty darn nice sports and wildlife shooter. A totally nice and great upgrade to the current 7D.

ISO almost as good as 5D mkIII, so almost almost as good as 6D.   For lowlight: 6D, for action and reach: the 7D mkII specs look great.   I'm really eager to see the details on that new sensor!

Really, imho everyone: lighten up already.    8)

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« Reply #122 on: February 19, 2013, 03:55:29 PM »
 people always say the 7d range is a  great wildlife camera,im sure it is, af, long reach etc. but surely image quality should be paramount?  otherwise why dont all wildlife photographers carry 7d's? 





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« Reply #123 on: February 19, 2013, 04:00:22 PM »
The way I see it the 7D and 5D lines should be launched in parallel with identical specs, one tweaked for FF the other for APSC. Otherwise there's consumer unfair.

It doesn't feel right having to pay $1,000 extra (5D3) and get better specs from a cheaper model (either it be faster fps, built-in GPS, etc.). Now, that doesn't mean bring down 7D2 specs or charge it extra, it means pull together your Canon marketing!! It seems 5D, 7D departments work independently against each other.

Synchronize lines: 7D3/5D3, 7D4/5D4. That's the way to pace with consumer. We saw amalgamation of 1D, well it's time for a clearer product strategy overall.

Now you know how the 5d2 owners felt after they bought the camera and 1 year later the 7D came out with better body, FPS, better video, AF, etc....  then again, from a marketing point, it's ingenious... it encourages envy and want, which ultimately has people opening their pocket books for XYZ features.... launching both at once, a photographer may buy 1 of them... you space them out, a photographer may buy 1 of each... 
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« Reply #124 on: February 19, 2013, 04:04:57 PM »
people always say the 7d range is a  great wildlife camera,im sure it is, af, long reach etc. but surely image quality should be paramount?  otherwise why dont all wildlife photographers carry 7d's?

Actually, all wildlife photographers did carry the 7d, but then the 6d came out and they all figured it must be a better camera because the number was lower, so now they ALL own 6d's...  ::)

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« Reply #125 on: February 19, 2013, 04:07:03 PM »
Sounds a little too good to be true with the ISO and Noise performance. Maybe for JPEG...but RAW will be a different story. Either way, I am sure it will be a great camera!
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« Reply #126 on: February 19, 2013, 04:08:23 PM »
Jrista, you're always full of useful information!  Could the shutter button be a factor also?  Seems like the 7D, the 5D3, and even the 1D4 I rented...have a shutter release with no satisfying "click" once you go from half press to full press.  For stationary birds with my 50D, I just always use center point and single shot mode rather than servo, and use multiple half presses...the focus gets extremely sharp then.  Servo mode does work for moving targets, but obviously nothing like as well as the 7D. 

But to use the multiple half press technique, you need to feel it going in and out of half press...which I could hardly ever do with the 1D4 or the 5D3...and the 7D I tried briefly felt the same way.

Have you found the 7D able to AF in very low light (25 minutes after sunset)?  My 50D can do this extremely well, far better than the 1D4 did...of course both with only center point selected.  I even got very accurate focus at times of like 10 minutes after sunset, when I rented the Canon 400 f/5.6 prime, on my 50D.

Given the price of over $2k for a 7D2, I would certainly rather go for a 6D or 5D3...but what if a 70D inherits an AF similar to the current 7D, and for barely a higher price than the old 7D sells for now?  It seems to me, that a 70D full of the features we want, at the nice price...is the crop camera to get.  Of course if it's just like the 60D with the same feature set, lack of AFMA, and all the other Rebel features that suck...then avoid it at all costs!

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« Reply #126 on: February 19, 2013, 04:08:23 PM »

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« Reply #127 on: February 19, 2013, 04:10:02 PM »
people always say the 7d range is a  great wildlife camera,im sure it is, af, long reach etc. but surely image quality should be paramount?  otherwise why dont all wildlife photographers carry 7d's?

Actually, all wildlife photographers did carry the 7d, but then the 6d came out and they all figured it must be a better camera because the number was lower, so now they ALL own 6d's...  ::)

makes sense to me,dont tell them theres a 5d because they might presume thats a better camera too!

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Re: Canon EOS 7D Mark II Spec List [CR2]
« Reply #128 on: February 19, 2013, 04:20:00 PM »
people always say the 7d range is a  great wildlife camera,im sure it is, af, long reach etc. but surely image quality should be paramount?  otherwise why dont all wildlife photographers carry 7d's?

Actually, all wildlife photographers did carry the 7d, but then the 6d came out and they all figured it must be a better camera because the number was lower, so now they ALL own 6d's...  ::)

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« Reply #129 on: February 19, 2013, 04:31:54 PM »

Agreed completely! I can definitely see WiFi tethering and GPS as bonus features for wildlife. You could set up your camera observing a nest, say, and be comfortably out of sight in your car, or in a chair a few feet away. The bird wouldn't get spooked by moving to take the shot. They still might be by the sound, but hopefully you'll get at least a few shots off!

And the ability to WiFi it to my iPad would be really handy!

I laughed when I read this post..... At the moment, I have a GoPro camera on a tripod about two feet away from the bird feeder and am controlling it from an iPad, while sitting inside on a comfy chair, cat on my lap, cup of tea on the table... and if the 7D2 has wifi, that will be my first use for it.
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« Reply #130 on: February 19, 2013, 04:34:33 PM »
I don't really believe that the noise performance would be that much better than the current 7d. They went down on res compared to the 5d2 with the 1dX and up in sensor size to be better than the 1d4, the 5d3 has the same res as the 5d2 and still is only better over 1600/3200 iso. So increasing the mp from 18 to 24 on an aps-c sensor doesn't read killer high iso performance for me. MP still sells....

Well, let's hope you're wrong! ;)

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« Reply #131 on: February 19, 2013, 04:36:08 PM »
In some ways the new MK II will be an improoved DSLR in video (with some more FPS..)
Just save cash and get 7D MK I. (IMHO!)

Any featured lenses? some kind of 17-55 F2.8 MK II?

Hopefully not... I just bought myself a 17-55/2.8 last week!

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« Reply #132 on: February 19, 2013, 04:36:49 PM »
people always say the 7d range is a  great wildlife camera,im sure it is, af, long reach etc. but surely image quality should be paramount?  otherwise why dont all wildlife photographers carry 7d's?

Sometimes it matters more to be able to carry the camera.... A 1DX and a 600f4 will take better pictures than a 7D and a 400f5.6..... but if you have to carry it on your back for a week, plus tent, sleeping bag, food, etc... that lighter and smaller camera/lens combination looks pretty attractive.
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« Reply #133 on: February 19, 2013, 04:44:17 PM »
I don't really believe that the noise performance would be that much better than the current 7d. They went down on res compared to the 5d2 with the 1dX and up in sensor size to be better than the 1d4, the 5d3 has the same res as the 5d2 and still is only better over 1600/3200 iso. So increasing the mp from 18 to 24 on an aps-c sensor doesn't read killer high iso performance for me. MP still sells....

Well, let's hope you're wrong! ;)

The rumour is "ISO Performance to get close to the 5D3"... So just imagine what the 5D4 and the 1DXXX will have for specs. ( the 1DXXX will be an obscene price :) )
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Re: Canon EOS 7D Mark II Spec List [CR2]
« Reply #134 on: February 19, 2013, 04:48:30 PM »
I don't really believe that the noise performance would be that much better than the current 7d. They went down on res compared to the 5d2 with the 1dX and up in sensor size to be better than the 1d4, the 5d3 has the same res as the 5d2 and still is only better over 1600/3200 iso. So increasing the mp from 18 to 24 on an aps-c sensor doesn't read killer high iso performance for me. MP still sells....

Well, let's hope you're wrong! ;)

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