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Re: Canon EOS 7D Mark II Spec List [CR2]
« Reply #135 on: February 19, 2013, 04:48:47 PM »
With such a camera, I think 24mp is overkill. The 18 was fine, i like the speed specs of it but the only real thing that would attract me is improved ISO performance. 10fps would be beautiful for me, but id much rather have the pro body of a 1d III or 1d iv.
the 1.6x crop factor interests me as well as i miss that extra reach i had after my 60D was exchanged for a 5D III, but i could never hold the 60d without feeling as if its just electronic plastic on my hands.
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Re: Canon EOS 7D Mark II Spec List [CR2]
« Reply #135 on: February 19, 2013, 04:48:47 PM »

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Re: Canon EOS 7D Mark II Spec List [CR2]
« Reply #136 on: February 19, 2013, 05:00:38 PM »
Brandon, I think you should buy a 1D4.  Equals 25 MP resolution on a full frame, but of course, cropped off down to 16MP.  I enjoyed the one I rented...noise not much worse than a 5D3 from ISO 1600 through 6400.  Above that it's significantly worse...below 1600, probably slightly worse.  Unless you shoot wider than 85mm most of the time, (or at higher ISO most of the time) it's the one to get.  Let's face it, it will be 2016 before Canon introduce a full frame sensor with similar (or slightly finer) pixel density to the 1D4.  Sure, they'll introduce a full frame with very tiny pixels, but that won't be all that useful outside a studio, or for fast paced work, or for low light/fast work...and it will cost $9k or more. 

They have spread out all of their bodies so that even ones like the 1D4, that got discontinued, aren't really getting displaced.  A good strategy.

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Re: Canon EOS 7D Mark II Spec List [CR2]
« Reply #137 on: February 19, 2013, 05:09:21 PM »
I don't really believe that the noise performance would be that much better than the current 7d. They went down on res compared to the 5d2 with the 1dX and up in sensor size to be better than the 1d4, the 5d3 has the same res as the 5d2 and still is only better over 1600/3200 iso. So increasing the mp from 18 to 24 on an aps-c sensor doesn't read killer high iso performance for me. MP still sells....

Well, let's hope you're wrong! ;)

The rumour is "ISO Performance to get close to the 5D3"... So just imagine what the 5D4 and the 1DXXX will have for specs. ( the 1DXXX will be an obscene price :) )

So just imagine what the 5D4 will have for specs...That's about what I thought. If this sensor tech is quite  improved compared to other crop cams, then I dare to dream of quite a decent improvment in the next few years. My next cam won't be a 5D4 (my 5D3 is a tremendous cam) but somewhere down the road there will be a 5D5 or whatever they'll call it by then...And I guess, there will be new sensor tech within it, that will just blow us away... 8) till then...happy shooting...Cheers, Pedro
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Re: Canon EOS 7D Mark II Spec List [CR2]
« Reply #138 on: February 19, 2013, 05:15:06 PM »
I don't really believe that the noise performance would be that much better than the current 7d. They went down on res compared to the 5d2 with the 1dX and up in sensor size to be better than the 1d4, the 5d3 has the same res as the 5d2 and still is only better over 1600/3200 iso. So increasing the mp from 18 to 24 on an aps-c sensor doesn't read killer high iso performance for me. MP still sells....

Well, let's hope you're wrong! ;)

The rumour is "ISO Performance to get close to the 5D3"... So just imagine what the 5D4 and the 1DXXX will have for specs. ( the 1DXXX will be an obscene price :) )

So just imagine what the 5D4 will have for specs...That's about what I thought. If this sensor tech is quite  improved compared to other crop cams, then I dare to dream of quite a decent improvment in the next few years. My next cam won't be a 5D4 (my 5D3 is a tremendous cam) but somewhere down the road there will be a 5D5 or whatever they'll call it by then...And I guess, there will be new sensor tech within it, that will just blow us away... 8) till then...happy shooting...Cheers, Pedro
I hear ya.  I'm very happy with my 5DIII but there's quite likely to be something very tempting about the 5D4 etc... else why would they bother making it.
However, it won't be too many more years before weight will become an important consideration for me. At which point I hope they would have made some major breakthroughs in small, light cameras.

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Re: Canon EOS 7D Mark II Spec List [CR2]
« Reply #139 on: February 19, 2013, 05:28:02 PM »
The traders are waiting for the new crop series (Nikon & Canon,..) as an cash-cow for x-mas business.
I read in the www  that Nikon will release their new crop camera in summer 2013: In July in China or maybe in September in Berlin. Buyable soon after the release.
So, Canon will release it in the same timeframe, otherwise they will miss X-mas business.
In Germany the rumors are about 2100-2500 € (? 2 versions with/without GPS/WIFI???)

Then wait until spring and buy it.....

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Re: Canon EOS 7D Mark II Spec List [CR2]
« Reply #140 on: February 19, 2013, 05:28:18 PM »
people always say the 7d range is a  great wildlife camera,im sure it is, af, long reach etc. but surely image quality should be paramount?  otherwise why dont all wildlife photographers carry 7d's?

Some people literally have piles of money to BURN. :P Or, they are professionals....

Everyone who uses a 7D would probably prefer to have a pair of  1D X's, one with an 800mm f/5.6 L IS and another with the 600mm f/4 L IS II on a 2x TC, both sitting on a pair of Series 5 Gitzo tripods. But...not everyone has forty grand to blow on the gear of their dreams. To get the kind of reach you must have when using FF, you can achieve with something like the 7D and a 400mm or 500mm lens for FAR less cost.

I'd own the very kit I mentioned above, along with a 500mm f/4 L IS II, 300mm f/2.8 L IS II, both TCs, one of those nice new land rovers with the panoramic windows, etc. if I had the option. Sadly, my funds are far more limited than that, and I've wrestled with the idea of buying the 600mm f/4 L II for about 9 months now, and still can't really bring myself to pull the trigger.

Some people just have money to burn. For the rest, the 7D with its high-density sensor and amazing reach factor, and a 100-400mm lens, fills the role of "baby 1D" quite well.
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Re: Canon EOS 7D Mark II Spec List [CR2]
« Reply #141 on: February 19, 2013, 05:38:48 PM »
Wow, eleven pages on this already.

For the past decade I have been a shameless fan of x1.3 APS-H sensor bodies, and as my very hard working 1D4 approached it's best-by date, the 7DII as described sounds like a giant killer.

Like plenty of photographers the 7DII is a very high interest item. If the price & specs are as indicated I'll get two of them. This sort of performance plus the x1.6 APS-C crop means I won't have to go and spend $6K on a 1DX and $11K on a 400 f/2.8isII as my 300 f/2.8is will have the reach I need on APS-C.

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Re: Canon EOS 7D Mark II Spec List [CR2]
« Reply #141 on: February 19, 2013, 05:38:48 PM »

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Re: Canon EOS 7D Mark II Spec List [CR2]
« Reply #142 on: February 19, 2013, 05:41:56 PM »
people always say the 7d range is a  great wildlife camera,im sure it is, af, long reach etc. but surely image quality should be paramount?  otherwise why dont all wildlife photographers carry 7d's?

...you can achieve with something like the 7D and a 400mm or 500mm lens for FAR less cost...

FAR stands for "Free After Rebate"...  ;D

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Re: Canon EOS 7D Mark II Spec List [CR2]
« Reply #143 on: February 19, 2013, 05:46:55 PM »
people always say the 7d range is a  great wildlife camera,im sure it is, af, long reach etc. but surely image quality should be paramount?  otherwise why dont all wildlife photographers carry 7d's?

...you can achieve with something like the 7D and a 400mm or 500mm lens for FAR less cost...

FAR stands for "Free After Rebate"...  ;D

HAH! I wish! Even a $1000 rebate on those top-end lenses still leaves you bleeding on the street from the kidney you had to sell...
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Re: Canon EOS 7D Mark II Spec List [CR2]
« Reply #144 on: February 19, 2013, 05:48:53 PM »
Sorry, a little off topic.  Anyone know what Canon camera is in this below linked picture?  Never seen one with the red piece by the hotshoe.  Looks like a 7D is why I am posting on this thread. 

http://500px.com/photo/26318243

Update:Even more suspicious is the Canon logo has been removed, this has a pop-up flash and looks to be in new condition.  Can't place the lens either the more I look at this - size wise looks like the 85mm 1.2 but the bulge appears different by the camera mount from the current 85,1.2???
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Re: Canon EOS 7D Mark II Spec List [CR2]
« Reply #145 on: February 19, 2013, 05:56:12 PM »
Why jump from 19 to 61 points? 19 is good.

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 You can NAIL focus right on a birds eye, and the bird can be PERFECTLY STILL...and the 7D AF system will still jump around by microscopic amounts in AI Servo. If you hold the button down, or press, release, press, the AF system is always "trying" to re-lock. Sometimes, even when a solid AF lock is already held, on a stationary or moving subject, the 7D will suddenly start hunting. Most annoying quirk of an AF system ever. I blame it partly on the widely spaced points, and mostly on the recent firmware update (which seemed to make the problem worse.)

A little off-topic but - have you noticed the same jumping problem with AI focus?

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Re: Canon EOS 7D Mark II Spec List [CR2]
« Reply #146 on: February 19, 2013, 06:04:51 PM »
Sorry, a little off topic.  Anyone know what Canon camera is in this below linked picture?  Never seen one with the red piece by the hotshoe.  Looks like a 7D is why I am posting on this thread. 

http://500px.com/photo/26318243

Update:Even more suspicious is the Canon logo has been removed, this has a pop-up flash and looks to be in new condition.  Can't place the lens either the more I look at this - size wise looks like the 85mm 1.2 but the bulge appears different by the camera mount from the current 85,1.2???

Does look like a 7d, dunno about the red piece or lack of "Canon" on the front of the pop-up. The ES-78 hood is the one that comes on the current 50 1.2, FWIW. I'm having a hard time telling if it's gripped / a 1-series body... kinda looks like it is, at least to my eye. And the protrusion of the eye cup looks farther than my 7d, which I understand is a 1-series luxury so you don't leave nose prints on the LCD. But the top buttons and mode dial are definitely the same as my 7d.
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Re: Canon EOS 7D Mark II Spec List [CR2]
« Reply #147 on: February 19, 2013, 06:05:52 PM »
I wish that the new 7D Mark II has these specs. However, in such case it would be even better than 5D Mark III as it would have WIFI and GPS installed. The only difference would be sensor. I really doubt that Canon would produce such camera...

Everybody was waiting for 6D and there were a lot of rumours about its specs, however, autofocus in this brand new camera is even worse than 3 year old 7D. Canon is able to produce good technology, however, they marketing department is screwing everything. I think that they will find a lot of ways how to cripple 7D Mark II and ask for it a significant premium comparing with old 7D.
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« Reply #147 on: February 19, 2013, 06:05:52 PM »

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Re: Canon EOS 7D Mark II Spec List [CR2]
« Reply #148 on: February 19, 2013, 06:16:05 PM »
I wish that the new 7D Mark II has these specs. However, in such case it would be even better than 5D Mark III as it would have WIFI and GPS installed. The only difference would be sensor. I really doubt that Canon would produce such camera...

Everybody was waiting for 6D and there were a lot of rumours about its specs, however, autofocus in this brand new camera is even worse than 3 year old 7D. Canon is able to produce good technology, however, they marketing department is screwing everything. I think that they will find a lot of ways how to cripple 7D Mark II and ask for it a significant premium comparing with old 7D.

Unlike the 6D, though, the 7D is a premium product. The 7D II would be better compared to the 5D III than the 6D. I'd say the 70D is more along the lines of the APS-C version of the 6D, and it would not be surprising to see the 70D with a gimped featureset.

I suspect the 7D II will get a pretty nice feature set. At the very least, it won't be any worse than the original 7D, with higher resolution, and probably better noise performance. Whether it will be much better than that is yet to be seen, however the 5D III specs did end up being pretty close to the CR2 rumors, so I'd expect the 7D II to be similar.
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Re: Canon EOS 7D Mark II Spec List [CR2]
« Reply #149 on: February 19, 2013, 06:18:17 PM »
This is what will get my check book out:
1. Low noise at low ISO, high ISO capable sensor

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2. Same or higher frame rate

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3. Same or higher MP- but only if point 1 is satisfied

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4. Two CF card slots

Check (well two slots, anyway)

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5. Same or better AF (5DIII level?)

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6. Same or better build quality

Most probably...

Ok, so I am ready with the check...
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Re: Canon EOS 7D Mark II Spec List [CR2]
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