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Re: Nikon 7100 has been anounced
« Reply #105 on: February 22, 2013, 11:05:38 AM »
Neuroanatomist,

I usually agree with the majority of your posts on here, but with this one I have to vehemently disagree.

Vehemently disagree?  That's pretty serious man!


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Re: Nikon 7100 has been anounced
« Reply #105 on: February 22, 2013, 11:05:38 AM »

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Re: Nikon 7100 has been anounced
« Reply #106 on: February 22, 2013, 11:06:39 AM »
....Switching systems is a massive undertaking, both from a time and energy standpoint, and a financial resources one as well.  Fully switching brands must be a well thought out decision, and sometimes it simply isn't worth it - even when new product releases are inferior to the competition's.   

sure -- and the sales figures (that show the clear Canon advantage) may be in fact due to the high installed based.  the implication is that no one (with a lick of sense)  really compares body-to-body they compare system-to-system.  So Canon sells more bodies becasue their strategy is working.

I don't know that their current strategy is working but at a key point (lets say when the 20D/5D/5DII were introduced), they were able to capture a lot of photographers that were coming into digital photography or that were upgrading from point-and-shoot. Being on top of the market early let them establish a good installed base that will stick with the same vendor as time goes by because people can just buy a new body.

I think dilbert nailed it on the head.

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Re: Nikon 7100 has been anounced
« Reply #107 on: February 22, 2013, 02:55:05 PM »
24Mp sensor with no AA filter!!
Should yield very sharp 100pc crops superior to anything seen yet in APS-C format.
Can't see Canon providing anything equivalent in the upcoming 7D2, 70D series which will - in all probability - have the usual strong filters.
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Re: Nikon 7100 has been anounced
« Reply #108 on: February 22, 2013, 04:29:35 PM »
I would be very excited... hell I'd be jumping up and down if Canon had released a 70d with these specs.
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Re: Nikon 7100 has been anounced
« Reply #109 on: February 22, 2013, 11:05:40 PM »
I would be very excited... hell I'd be jumping up and down if Canon had released a 70d with these specs.

and price...

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Re: Nikon 7100 has been anounced
« Reply #110 on: February 23, 2013, 03:39:01 AM »
I would be very excited... hell I'd be jumping up and down if Canon had released a 70d with these specs.

and price...
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Re: Nikon 7100 has been anounced
« Reply #111 on: February 23, 2013, 05:50:05 AM »


The D700 split into two different cameras: the D800 and D600.

Yeah i guess, but I'm betting most d700 shooters would have preferred a d700s: 7fps, 24mp, solid build.
What they got was either: pretty much the same camera [d600] with lesser build quality but good amount of mp.
Or a complete beast [d800] whilst great for certain users, it's a step backward in fps and too large file size for others.

For sports, event, wedding or wildlife photographers already using a d700, I wouldn't consider either of these a great upgrade. Maybe the d600 for a 'slightly' faster shooting speed and more mp but then you lose the tank like build that the d700 was known for.

And yes, i agree the d7100 isn't a replacement for the d300s but its hard not to see that whilst nikons recent release's are great cameras, they don't seem to offer much to the existing semipro d700 d300s crowd. They seem more aimed at increasing the user base.

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Re: Nikon 7100 has been anounced
« Reply #111 on: February 23, 2013, 05:50:05 AM »

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Re: Nikon 7100 has been anounced
« Reply #112 on: February 23, 2013, 07:42:17 AM »
The D700 split into two different cameras: the D800 and D600.

Yeah i guess, but I'm betting most d700 shooters would have preferred a d700s: 7fps, 24mp, solid build.
What they got was either: pretty much the same camera [d600] with lesser build quality but good amount of mp.
Or a complete beast [d800] whilst great for certain users, it's a step backward in fps and too large file size for others.

For sports, event, wedding or wildlife photographers already using a d700, I wouldn't consider either of these a great upgrade. Maybe the d600 for a 'slightly' faster shooting speed and more mp but then you lose the tank like build that the d700 was known for.

I think all three of those cameras are likely able to withstand rougher treatment than most people will deliver. Then again, I've seen some treat the D700 like it was made of porcelain with it wrapped up in a plastic bag whilst they were outside shooting. Go figure. Search on youtube for the comparison between Nikon and Canon where someone tries to burn them with a blowtorch.

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Re: Nikon 7100 has been anounced
« Reply #113 on: February 24, 2013, 06:33:32 AM »
The D700 split into two different cameras: the D800 and D600.

Yeah i guess, but I'm betting most d700 shooters would have preferred a d700s: 7fps, 24mp, solid build.
What they got was either: pretty much the same camera [d600] with lesser build quality but good amount of mp.
Or a complete beast [d800] whilst great for certain users, it's a step backward in fps and too large file size for others.

For sports, event, wedding or wildlife photographers already using a d700, I wouldn't consider either of these a great upgrade. Maybe the d600 for a 'slightly' faster shooting speed and more mp but then you lose the tank like build that the d700 was known for.

I think all three of those cameras are likely able to withstand rougher treatment than most people will deliver. Then again, I've seen some treat the D700 like it was made of porcelain with it wrapped up in a plastic bag whilst they were outside shooting. Go figure. Search on youtube for the comparison between Nikon and Canon where someone tries to burn them with a blowtorch.

I'll take a look. I'v seen the digital rev one one of the 7d were he freezes it in water then breaks it out with an air rifle and the thing keeps shooting!

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Re: Nikon 7100 has been anounced
« Reply #114 on: February 24, 2013, 11:16:24 PM »
The D300s may not be on sale or in stock anywhere,
D300s is still available at most of the big online stores ... but what I don't unerstand is its price, it is way too expensive ... almost $1700 is crazy, while the 7D sells for just over $1100
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Re: Nikon 7100 has been anounced
« Reply #115 on: February 25, 2013, 04:51:07 AM »
This 7100 may well be the sharpest APS-C camera around for a long time - in theory!

But no AFMA facility on it?

So in practice you may have to be very lucky to realise its full potential on your favourite lens.

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Re: Nikon 7100 has been anounced
« Reply #116 on: February 25, 2013, 09:48:55 AM »
This 7100 may well be the sharpest APS-C camera around for a long time - in theory!

But no AFMA facility on it?

So in practice you may have to be very lucky to realise its full potential on your favourite lens.

Well, technically it doesn't have AFMA, because that's Canon's name for the feature.  But, what makes you think it doesn't have AF Fine Tune?  Might want to go read the specs again...
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Re: Nikon 7100 has been anounced
« Reply #117 on: February 25, 2013, 11:39:04 AM »
This 7100 may well be the sharpest APS-C camera around for a long time - in theory!
But no AFMA facility on it?
So in practice you may have to be very lucky to realise its full potential on your favourite lens.

Well, technically it doesn't have AFMA, because that's Canon's name for the feature.  But, what makes you think it doesn't have AF Fine Tune?  Might want to go read the specs again...

Yes, the D7100 does fave AF "fine tuning".
After all it is the same 3500DX AF-module as introduced almost 6 years ago in the Nikon D300. 

But Neuro ... especially as a Canon-user it is really tough to spot the feature in the somewhat unwieldy spec list!   :P

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« Reply #117 on: February 25, 2013, 11:39:04 AM »

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« Reply #118 on: February 25, 2013, 11:50:22 AM »
But Neuro ... especially as a Canon-user it is really tough to spot the feature in the somewhat unwieldy spec list!   :P
Tough to spot on a Nikon spec list, mabe...but that's better than impossible to spot on a Canon spec list, since it's not there at all (e.g. the 7D has AFMA, but it's not referenced in the specs). 
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Re: Nikon 7100 has been anounced
« Reply #119 on: February 25, 2013, 01:15:42 PM »
But Neuro ... especially as a Canon-user it is really tough to spot the feature in the somewhat unwieldy spec list!   :P
Tough to spot on a Nikon spec list, mabe...but that's better than impossible to spot on a Canon spec list, since it's not there at all (e.g. the 7D has AFMA, but it's not referenced in the specs).

Totally agree on that one. AS I already mentioned when I quoted the D7100 viewfinder details ... it is not  possible to find  the same, still rather basic product information for a Canon EOS camera on a Canon website.

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Re: Nikon 7100 has been anounced
« Reply #119 on: February 25, 2013, 01:15:42 PM »