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Jon Rafman's work: Unedited or not?
« on: February 20, 2013, 08:06:38 PM »
Alright sleuths, can any of you prove that some of his work has been edited in post(other than resizing)?

http://9-eyes.com

Some of them looks like they blatantly used Instagram filters.

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Jon Rafman's work: Unedited or not?
« on: February 20, 2013, 08:06:38 PM »

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Re: Jon Rafman's work: Unedited or not?
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2013, 08:51:20 PM »
Alright sleuths, can any of you prove that some of his work has been edited in post(other than resizing)?

http://9-eyes.com

Some of them looks like they blatantly used Instagram filters.


I haven't looked for proof, but, obviously, all or very close to all of these photos have been edited in post, either to give that Lomo/Instagram filter look, or other quite obvious repeated image, or "cut and paste" out of alignment, or many other such faux avante garde and artsy treatments.

Frankly, I'm not impressed, either by the concepts, which are somewhat shopworn and unoriginal, nor by the intended irony. I'd rather be looking at postcards at Walgreens. It's not that I "don't get it." I actually do. I just think that it still isn't very good or interesting. Sorry. It's not worth my time to look for proof of anything.
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Re: Jon Rafman's work: Unedited or not?
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2013, 08:59:41 PM »
I'll try and find some of these google street views.

Jon:
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lh5l10vD081qzun8oo1_1280.jpg
GS:
http://goo.gl/maps/Bdj1E

This first one shows that Jon changed the pictures color and such. It also shows that Google appears to have moved the seams around without taking new pictures.

Jon:
http://www.tumblr.com/photo/1280/9eyes/604792362/1/tumblr_l2j6tloodw1qzun8o
GS:
http://goo.gl/maps/vz2px

This one is a little less edited I think, just the contrast or levels maybe?  I am not an expert.

Is that enough for now?

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Re: Jon Rafman's work: Unedited or not?
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2013, 09:08:46 PM »
Thanks, Jimbo.

The fist example clearly shows that some sort of white balance adjustment was made.

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Re: Jon Rafman's work: Unedited or not?
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2013, 11:25:19 PM »
I don't get it. I don't think a picture of a dead person is either art or good journalism, to me it's opportunistic. Maybe I just see enough of it anyway where I live. I stared down the barrel of a gun the other week with my wife next to me and our youngest daughter in the backseat.

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Re: Jon Rafman's work: Unedited or not?
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2013, 11:58:09 PM »
If it's journalism, that was done by Google. He just picked images from their street view. Some are interesting... some just sad...
Maybe enlarged them a bit, added some contrast, sharpness or just clicked the auto-fix button... what does it matter?
Anyhow we have to think about twice now to get the morning papers from the yard in boxers :)

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Re: Jon Rafman's work: Unedited or not?
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2013, 12:35:22 AM »
If it's journalism, that was done by Google. He just picked images from their street view. Some are interesting... some just sad...
Maybe enlarged them a bit, added some contrast, sharpness or just clicked the auto-fix button... what does it matter?
Anyhow we have to think about twice now to get the morning papers from the yard in boxers :)
Ah OK, didn't know that. I thought the bad quality of the images was some kind of artistic touch. Now I looked stupid (again).

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Re: Jon Rafman's work: Unedited or not?
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Re: Jon Rafman's work: Unedited or not?
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2013, 08:07:04 PM »
Ah OK, didn't know that. I thought the bad quality of the images was some kind of artistic touch. Now I looked stupid (again).
well, nowadays you never know, people mess up a photo, convert it to b&w or throw a filter at it an call it art(sy) :)
wouldn't feel bad about it; doubt  (other than the op) many knew (or will remember) who the guy is..
however sounds like you need to move to a safer area...
Well I have already forgotten about him  ;)
Moving to a safer area, well we're moving back to Europe this summer, but are certain to move to this part of the world again as it's my wife's business and I tend to like it here and I can also work down here. It's just different and by taking the right precautions one is normally safe. Thanks though!

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Re: Jon Rafman's work: Unedited or not?
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2013, 02:20:36 PM »
Does Jon claim that his work hasn't been adjusted in post?  I don't know of any serious photographer (editorial, commercial or otherwise) that doesn't adjust his or her work in post. I do know of a few who pretend they don't, and do.

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Re: Jon Rafman's work: Unedited or not?
« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2013, 09:10:12 PM »
Does Jon claim that his work hasn't been adjusted in post?  I don't know of any serious photographer (editorial, commercial or otherwise) that doesn't adjust his or her work in post. I do know of a few who pretend they don't, and do.

The point is it's not really his work in the first place, it's purportedly what he's "collected" off google maps.  I think that editing the colors, and then sticking the map controls back in is a bit of a fib.

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Re: Jon Rafman's work: Unedited or not?
« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2013, 09:10:12 PM »