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JonAustin

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Re: 2nd flash vs transmitter
« Reply #15 on: July 10, 2016, 09:32:24 AM »
... But whether I'm using a 600 EX-RT or Yongnuo YN-E3-RT as on-camera master, I use the in-camera External Speedlight Control menu. Just seems easier & quicker to navigate.

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Good tip. When I'm shooting in a multi-flash environment, my camera is always tethered to a laptop running Canon EOS Utility, which is a great tool for adjusting flash settings on the fly (and saving them for later use), but I will have to check out the in-camera Speedlight menu.
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Re: 2nd flash vs transmitter
« Reply #15 on: July 10, 2016, 09:32:24 AM »

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Re: 2nd flash vs transmitter
« Reply #16 on: July 11, 2016, 10:10:28 PM »
If nothing else having a flash instead of the transmitter puts the display and the buttons in the same plane as all the other buttons so you don't have to keep looking at the top of your camera to see what your flashes are up to.

That's true, and it's easier to see because it's on a more useful visual plane. But whether I'm using a 600 EX-RT or Yongnuo YN-E3-RT as on-camera master, I use the in-camera External Speedlight Control menu. Just seems easier & quicker to navigate.

-pw

Personally I prefer the menu on the transmitter/flash, but perhaps I should invest some time in the in-camera menu.  Neither are ideal, but they're not bad for what the hardware they run on.

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Re: 2nd flash vs transmitter
« Reply #17 on: July 12, 2016, 12:49:03 AM »
430ex III rt  :D

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Re: 2nd flash vs transmitter
« Reply #18 on: July 12, 2016, 03:50:44 AM »
... But whether I'm using a 600 EX-RT or Yongnuo YN-E3-RT as on-camera master, I use the in-camera External Speedlight Control menu. Just seems easier & quicker to navigate.

-pw
Good tip. When I'm shooting in a multi-flash environment, my camera is always tethered to a laptop running Canon EOS Utility, which is a great tool for adjusting flash settings on the fly (and saving them for later use), but I will have to check out the in-camera Speedlight menu.

If in-camera External Speedlight Control is something you use, then make sure to add it as a My Menu item. It surprises me to find out how many Canon photographers are not using the My Menu function. It is the one I use most often, rarely straying into the main menus. In the camera menu settings if you move all the way over to the right you will find a green star with the title "My Menu." My contact at CPS woke me up to My Menu when the 1D MkIV first shipped.

What this allows you to do is set up that page so that you can put your most accessed menu settings on one page so that when you press the menu button it will take you right to a page of those menu options. That way you can access them quickly without having to try and page through your menu system.

What I'd prefer would be that the Q menu was customizable. I'd put External Speedlight Control there.

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Re: 2nd flash vs transmitter
« Reply #19 on: July 12, 2016, 11:13:29 AM »
If in-camera External Speedlight Control is something you use, then make sure to add it as a My Menu item. It surprises me to find out how many Canon photographers are not using the My Menu function. It is the one I use most often, rarely straying into the main menus. In the camera menu settings if you move all the way over to the right you will find a green star with the title "My Menu." My contact at CPS woke me up to My Menu when the 1D MkIV first shipped.

What this allows you to do is set up that page so that you can put your most accessed menu settings on one page so that when you press the menu button it will take you right to a page of those menu options. That way you can access them quickly without having to try and page through your menu system.
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Another good tip! I've been using the My Menu function in my 5DIII since I got it. Great timesaver.
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Re: 2nd flash vs transmitter
« Reply #20 on: July 12, 2016, 11:35:02 AM »
... But whether I'm using a 600 EX-RT or Yongnuo YN-E3-RT as on-camera master, I use the in-camera External Speedlight Control menu. Just seems easier & quicker to navigate.

-pw
Good tip. When I'm shooting in a multi-flash environment, my camera is always tethered to a laptop running Canon EOS Utility, which is a great tool for adjusting flash settings on the fly (and saving them for later use), but I will have to check out the in-camera Speedlight menu.

If in-camera External Speedlight Control is something you use, then make sure to add it as a My Menu item. It surprises me to find out how many Canon photographers are not using the My Menu function. It is the one I use most often, rarely straying into the main menus. In the camera menu settings if you move all the way over to the right you will find a green star with the title "My Menu." My contact at CPS woke me up to My Menu when the 1D MkIV first shipped.

What this allows you to do is set up that page so that you can put your most accessed menu settings on one page so that when you press the menu button it will take you right to a page of those menu options. That way you can access them quickly without having to try and page through your menu system.

What I'd prefer would be that the Q menu was customizable. I'd put External Speedlight Control there.

-pw

Good call...

but already in "my menu", the flash controls went in the same day it arrived!. saves SO many button presses
And now I'm waiting a couple more weeks for my photo fund to get fat enough for the 2nd flash.. so thanks to everyone for your input. (damn, hate having to be patient)

RE the 430EXIII, I did stop and look at that, it's close, but it's almost a stop less powerful for twice the cost (58m vs 43m @105mm)

Having a single flash on camera right now did force me to try something that worked enough to use: I discovered if I point the flash up 45 and rotate one side, about 90~135, zoomed to 200mm I can semi create the classic off camera flash portrait look, but not as good as the background gets too much light, but still for on camera flash  without a brolly it isn't bad.
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Re: 2nd flash vs transmitter
« Reply #21 on: July 12, 2016, 12:26:18 PM »
It depends on how you intend to use the flashes. An optical trigger (using one flash to fire another) is line-of-sight between the two units. With a radio trigger you can hide the flash behind a tree or have it behind you or you can use the same remote to trigger the camera and flash from a distance.
It is because of this versatility that I got the trigger first then added second flash later

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Re: 2nd flash vs transmitter
« Reply #21 on: July 12, 2016, 12:26:18 PM »

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Re: 2nd flash vs transmitter
« Reply #22 on: July 12, 2016, 04:07:41 PM »
... But whether I'm using a 600 EX-RT or Yongnuo YN-E3-RT as on-camera master, I use the in-camera External Speedlight Control menu. Just seems easier & quicker to navigate.

-pw
Good tip. When I'm shooting in a multi-flash environment, my camera is always tethered to a laptop running Canon EOS Utility, which is a great tool for adjusting flash settings on the fly (and saving them for later use), but I will have to check out the in-camera Speedlight menu.

If in-camera External Speedlight Control is something you use, then make sure to add it as a My Menu item. It surprises me to find out how many Canon photographers are not using the My Menu function. It is the one I use most often, rarely straying into the main menus. In the camera menu settings if you move all the way over to the right you will find a green star with the title "My Menu." My contact at CPS woke me up to My Menu when the 1D MkIV first shipped.

What this allows you to do is set up that page so that you can put your most accessed menu settings on one page so that when you press the menu button it will take you right to a page of those menu options. That way you can access them quickly without having to try and page through your menu system.

What I'd prefer would be that the Q menu was customizable. I'd put External Speedlight Control there.

-pw

Good call...

but already in "my menu", the flash controls went in the same day it arrived!. saves SO many button presses
And now I'm waiting a couple more weeks for my photo fund to get fat enough for the 2nd flash.. so thanks to everyone for your input. (damn, hate having to be patient)

RE the 430EXIII, I did stop and look at that, it's close, but it's almost a stop less powerful for twice the cost (58m vs 43m @105mm)

Having a single flash on camera right now did force me to try something that worked enough to use: I discovered if I point the flash up 45 and rotate one side, about 90~135, zoomed to 200mm I can semi create the classic off camera flash portrait look, but not as good as the background gets too much light, but still for on camera flash  without a brolly it isn't bad.

There are two modifiers for the on camera flash that I use when I have only one flash with me.
1. A ring flash: http://www.ebay.ca/itm/121446394163
2. A flash bender: http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Foldable-Speedlight-Reflector-Snoot-Sealed-Flash-Softbox-Diffuser-Bender-Beam-L-/191726399529?hash=item2ca3c8b029:g:4xkAAOSw5ZBWMb4Q

Both are portable and I like them for portraits on the go.

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Re: 2nd flash vs transmitter
« Reply #23 on: August 26, 2016, 01:02:02 PM »
Well today my 2nd flash turned up while I was out buying a flash stand, mount thingy and modifier.

after working out how to get a basic single off camera flash going my daughter came indoors asking for more water for the paddling pool..  she got her water but not until she'd paid my randsom of a spot of modelling.

WOW!!!  this is a HUGE leg up on my photography.  Stuff L glass, off camera flash rocks!

I'm going to have a wonderful bank holiday weekend mucking about with my new gear.

thanks to everyone who contributed to this thread.
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Re: 2nd flash vs transmitter
« Reply #24 on: August 26, 2016, 01:32:34 PM »
Well today my 2nd flash turned up while I was out buying a flash stand, mount thingy and modifier.

after working out how to get a basic single off camera flash going my daughter came indoors asking for more water for the paddling pool..  she got her water but not until she'd paid my randsom of a spot of modelling.

WOW!!!  this is a HUGE leg up on my photography.  Stuff L glass, off camera flash rocks!

I'm going to have a wonderful bank holiday weekend mucking about with my new gear.

thanks to everyone who contributed to this thread.

Haha, ever read my signature  :)
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Re: 2nd flash vs transmitter
« Reply #25 on: August 26, 2016, 01:54:55 PM »
Well today my 2nd flash turned up while I was out buying a flash stand, mount thingy and modifier.

after working out how to get a basic single off camera flash going my daughter came indoors asking for more water for the paddling pool..  she got her water but not until she'd paid my randsom of a spot of modelling.

WOW!!!  this is a HUGE leg up on my photography.  Stuff L glass, off camera flash rocks!

I'm going to have a wonderful bank holiday weekend mucking about with my new gear.

thanks to everyone who contributed to this thread.

Haha, ever read my signature  :)

I don't think there's much arguing with that!

EDIT:

Just completed session 1..  classic angles with the softbox, without the softbox, close, far, dual flash, rear lit..  lots of fun.  Just as well the subject was placid... 



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« Last Edit: August 26, 2016, 05:25:18 PM by rfdesigner »
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"I couldn't care less about.." = this is the bottom of my list.. it is so unimportant.

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Re: 2nd flash vs transmitter
« Reply #25 on: August 26, 2016, 01:54:55 PM »