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Nikon finally Admits D600 Dust Problem
« on: February 23, 2013, 09:49:16 AM »
http://support.nikonusa.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/18180
Well, they at least admitted what many owners have known for months, but are still in denial that there is any widespread problem.  Why can't Nikon just be straight forward and admit the issue in a timely manner?  They have been hurt by poor sales and a bad rep over this, when they could have sent out a letter like this long ago.
The answer is likely that users who haven't checked their sensor and do not even know how, will send in their camera for a cleaning.  I hope they have resolved it with newer production units, but nothing is said or admitted there either.

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Nikon finally Admits D600 Dust Problem
« on: February 23, 2013, 09:49:16 AM »

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Re: Nikon finally Admits D600 Dust Problem
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2013, 10:12:16 AM »
Nikon announces that the D600 has been officially renamed the Dusty60Oily.   ;)
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Re: Nikon finally Admits D600 Dust Problem
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2013, 10:42:22 AM »
Even this does not sound like Nikon is willing to fully admit to the extent of the problem ... they refer to this problem as "in some rare cases" 
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Re: Nikon finally Admits D600 Dust Problem
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2013, 11:12:52 AM »
here is my guess:  based on number of pre-order numbers of nikon d7100 is not as many as expected, they admits their problems with d600 with a hope of drawing more pre-order on d7100...  ;D

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Re: Nikon finally Admits D600 Dust Problem
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2013, 11:32:52 AM »
I'm not sure how anyone here would have information about pre-orders of the D7100, or the Nikon forecast, but the worldwide economy is not conducive to sales of big ticket items.  None of the camera manufacturers are likely to meet their sales forcasts, and they downgrade them every quarter.
Canon has the price advantage with the 60D costing far less than the D7000 / D7100, and, in tough times, that is a huge advantage.  Even buyers who can afford more hold back and go for lower priced equipment.

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Re: Nikon finally Admits D600 Dust Problem
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2013, 11:56:12 AM »
I'm not sure how anyone here would have information about pre-orders of the D7100, or the Nikon forecast, but the worldwide economy is not conducive to sales of big ticket items.  None of the camera manufacturers are likely to meet their sales forcasts, and they downgrade them every quarter.
Canon has the price advantage with the 60D costing far less than the D7000 / D7100, and, in tough times, that is a huge advantage.  Even buyers who can afford more hold back and go for lower priced equipment.

If i remember correctly both 60d & d7k launched at the same price but d7k consistently outsold 60d even when the price diff. went  >100$. d7k was actually the first nikon i ever started notice around (whereas before it was just a sea of rebels)

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Re: Nikon finally Admits D600 Dust Problem
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2013, 12:00:03 PM »
here is my guess:  based on number of pre-order numbers of nikon d7100 is not as many as expected, they admits their problems with d600 with a hope of drawing more pre-order on d7100...  ;D

D7k had oil smears issues too upon launch so icant see d7100 avoiding it  ;D

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« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2013, 12:00:03 PM »

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Re: Nikon finally Admits D600 Dust Problem
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2013, 12:58:39 PM »
Even this does not sound like Nikon is willing to fully admit to the extent of the problem ... they refer to this problem as "in some rare cases"

Conventional corporatespeak. What else would they do -- use the Aso defense??
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Re: Nikon finally Admits D600 Dust Problem
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2013, 01:06:40 PM »
here is my guess:  based on number of pre-order numbers of nikon d7100 is not as many as expected, they admits their problems with d600 with a hope of drawing more pre-order on d7100...  ;D

D7k had oil smears issues too upon launch so icant see d7100 avoiding it  ;D

ummm... never heard of that problem with d7000?  might be i was not a dslr user during that time.  all i know is that number of my friends have dust and oil problems with their d600.  they all have had to traveled to los angeles several times to get their camera cleaned and all complained about parking fees and hassles...

note:  i used to laugh at people who were carrying big camera with them when traveling, but i now bet that someone is standing at somewhere in a crowd is laughing at me carrying a big camera...   ;D

oh... just notice that my status has been changed from "t4i" to "eos m"... i thought t4i is a better choice?  is there something wrong?... LOL
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Re: Nikon finally Admits D600 Dust Problem
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2013, 01:07:57 PM »
Do I care, I use a Canon?

I don't come on this site to revel in the misfortunes of Nikon users.  OK, it does illustrate the point that other manufacturers have QC issues with their products, but that should not absolve Canon when they have problems. 

If we're honest, this unwillingness to admit to failure is part of human nature in general and of Japanese business culture in particular.  Feel free to try and prove me wrong, I'll just dig my heels in and refuse to bow to logic  ;D

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Re: Nikon finally Admits D600 Dust Problem
« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2013, 01:20:29 PM »
Feel free to try and prove me wrong, I'll just dig my heels in and refuse to bow to logic  ;D

Really?!?  I find that hard to believe...no one ever does that around here.   :P
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Re: Nikon finally Admits D600 Dust Problem
« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2013, 01:53:26 PM »
If we're honest, this unwillingness to admit to failure is part of human nature in general and of Japanese business culture in particular
Japanese are one of the few cultures on this planet that are honest and willing to admit failure ... my boss is Japanese and so are many of my colleagues.
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Re: Nikon finally Admits D600 Dust Problem
« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2013, 02:08:52 PM »
Someone, somewhere is working on a revised D600 vs 6D review that will read like this:

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One of the biggest reasons to pick the D600 is that it comes with 15% more free dust.

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« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2013, 02:10:00 PM »
I'm not sure how anyone here would have information about pre-orders of the D7100, or the Nikon forecast, but the worldwide economy is not conducive to sales of big ticket items.  None of the camera manufacturers are likely to meet their sales forcasts, and they downgrade them every quarter.
Canon has the price advantage with the 60D costing far less than the D7000 / D7100, and, in tough times, that is a huge advantage.  Even buyers who can afford more hold back and go for lower priced equipment.

If i remember correctly both 60d & d7k launched at the same price but d7k consistently outsold 60d even when the price diff. went  >100$. d7k was actually the first nikon i ever started notice around (whereas before it was just a sea of rebels)

Yeah, I see D7k's whenever I go out. Nikon did a great job of convincing people to get one that would have otherwise been happy with an entry-level model.

Aside from the painfully small buffer, the D7k is a fantastic camera and IMO hits a much better sweet spot for crop bodies than either the 60D or 7D. I know that if I shot crop I'd love a prism viewfinder, solid grip, lots of AF points, and some weather sealing without having to lug around a 7D or have to pay for 8fps that I wouldn't use.

The D7100 looks like it's going to be a home run. I know lots of people around here would kill for a 70D with the 5D3 AF (including an f/8 cross-type), weather sealing, and 6fps for $1200! It's a pity they didn't give it a bigger buffer though; all of the other specs are spot-on.

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Re: Nikon finally Admits D600 Dust Problem
« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2013, 03:06:18 PM »
Being a Canon owner, I am unaware of this issue. Can somebody explain to me what is going on with the Nikon D600?

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« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2013, 03:06:18 PM »