New DSLR at the End of March [CR2]

[OmarSV11]

Is this new DSLR the reason why the 6D is going lower and lower in price (http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160931538455&item=160931538455&lgeo=1&vectorid=229466)? Maybe the 70D with FF sensor like I read earlier from another user? I see no other reason, why would a freshly released camera have a dive in price, unless there is something that must accommodate the actual retail price it has... Anyway the cheaper the 6D goes the better for me :S I need a more pro-sumer to pro camera, and the MkIII is beyond my budget.

[Peerke]

What about sending your pictures straight to the computer, which will show them "instant" on a big (TV) screen. People like to see themself on big screens during an event  .

if you are willing to showcase your keeper rate and display all of your non-keepers... that would work.

I will never do, since I'm just an amature and will never do event photography, but I once saw a guy with a setup like that. Although not all pictures were that good, people just don't care (or look) and are in awe of what they see on the screen, specially if they are on it themself.
There are so many people out there getting payed for the job just because they have a big camera and some other fancy stuff to show, not because they make good pictures and only show post processed keepers.
Compare it with music. There is a small percentage of people listening to music, they will never settle for MP3, but the majority out there don't care (or hear) because they are not listening.
People at events most of the time don't look at the pictures but just see them.

[c.d.embrey]

This is more of general topic question, but if you the 70D does get wifi/gps, what does that actually mean? What are the features of wifi on a dslr?  ...

...  I'm sure these points have been beaten to death but just looking for some advantages of wifi on my dslr...

WiFi done right allows you to send photos to a smart phone or a connected tablet. Then the file can be sent anywhere on the 'net. Besides the social network, an editorial photographer can shoot a job (breaking news, etc) and email the photos immediately to the client. Camera to smart phone to client -- simple as that. Panasonic GH3 owners are doing it even as we speak

[AdamJ]

It seems to me that almost all new Canon DSLRs are underwhelming on paper, yet better in real-world use than the specs initially suggested. Pretty much the opposite of Nikon.

[Don Haines]

This is more of general topic question, but if you the 70D does get wifi/gps, what does that actually mean? What are the features of wifi on a dslr?  Can you post right to facebook/instagram?  Do your photo's auto import/sync to your computer?  Is it really anything that great outside the social media benefits?

I'm trying to think of the advantages of having wifi and I can't think of anything more that what i mentioned above.  It doesn't seem like a necessary feature on a DSLR, at least for people who take photography to a step above "point and shoot."  I would imagine for a point and shoot camera WIFI is probably mandatory these days because rarely are people doing post production.  I'm sure these points have been beaten to death but just looking for some advantages of wifi on my dslr...

Think of tethering your camera to a computer with EOS Utility..... only no cord. Remote control over camera controls.... Hook the camera up to a telescope and monitor without laying in the wet grass.... set the camera up by the bird feeder and taking close up shots without a $12,000 lens....  transfering pictures is only the start...

[bdunbar79]

This is more of general topic question, but if you the 70D does get wifi/gps, what does that actually mean? What are the features of wifi on a dslr?  Can you post right to facebook/instagram?  Do your photo's auto import/sync to your computer?  Is it really anything that great outside the social media benefits?

I'm trying to think of the advantages of having wifi and I can't think of anything more that what i mentioned above.  It doesn't seem like a necessary feature on a DSLR, at least for people who take photography to a step above "point and shoot."  I would imagine for a point and shoot camera WIFI is probably mandatory these days because rarely are people doing post production.  I'm sure these points have been beaten to death but just looking for some advantages of wifi on my dslr...

What about sending your pictures straight to the computer, which will show them "instant" on a big (TV) screen. People like to see themself on big screens during an event  .

That'd be awesome to wirelessly send my photos to the jumbotron.  Just, awesome.

[iP337]

So, will Canon actually try to compete with Nikon this time (in the $1000 range) or will they pull another "6D move" and demand $1500 for a slightly updated 7D with wifi?
I think for Canon to keep my vote they need to address the following with this new DSLR;

1. Price, the Nikon D7100 and D5200 are proving to be great cameras in the $1000 range (give or take a $100 or 2).  Also the Panasonic GH3 is another great camera to be had int his range.

2. Noise patterns, I'm aware APS-C won't reach the same low-light performance as "Full Frame" but everyone else's is getting acceptably close, I expect usable ISO 3200 this time.

3. Clean HDMI out, Canon is now the only one without it and they've proved that they are holding it back with firmware so they really shouldn't have an excuse to omit it.

4. Video Moire, it's low on most of the new cameras and this is where the 6D and T4i are failing so Canon needs another win to equal the others in this department with a camera other than the $3000 5D3.

I expect this "70D" to be a 7D with wifi and a slightly lower build quality with a reduction of minor features (1/4000th shutter, 1/200th flash sync, 5fps, SD card slot, no PC sync and no headphone jack) but I hope they took steps (no line-skipping) to make this the best APS-C video DSLR.  That would leave the 7D2 to try and be the best APS-C sport/wildlife camera (hopefully with a built-in 2x crop mode like the D7100 but with 10fps and all cross-type AF points ).  The 6D's greatest weakness (video moire) could be the 70D's greatest strength, since we know it won't be low-light performance or fast photos.

[c.d.embrey]

So, will Canon actually try to compete with Nikon this time (in the $1000 range)

I doubt it, but hope springs eternal.

1. Price, the Nikon D7100 and D5200 are proving to be great cameras in the $1000 range (give or take a $100 or 2).  Also the Panasonic GH3 is another great camera to be had int his range.

For some people, the Panasonic GH3 will replace APS-C.

I expect this "70D" to be a 7D with wifi and a slightly lower build quality with a reduction of minor features (1/4000th shutter, 1/200th flash sync, ...

The Canon 40D had a 30 - 1/8000 sec shutter and a Flash X-Sync of 1/250 sec. Why would the NEW 70D have specs worse than a camera released in 2007

[preppyak]

The Canon 40D had a 30 - 1/8000 sec shutter and a Flash X-Sync of 1/250 sec. Why would the NEW 70D have specs worse than a camera released in 2007

Because the flash sync on the 6D is 1/180 and 5D3 is 1/200, so, no way the 70D would go beyond the 5dIII. I'm not sure I agree with the 1/4000th, but, it seems to be the way both Canon and Nikon are differentiating lines (D600/D800 and 5D3/6D). Wouldn't surprise me if the 70D had 1/4000th, leaving the 1/8000th for the 7dII

[Random Orbits]

The Canon 40D had a 30 - 1/8000 sec shutter and a Flash X-Sync of 1/250 sec. Why would the NEW 70D have specs worse than a camera released in 2007

Because the flash sync on the 6D is 1/180 and 5D3 is 1/200, so, no way the 70D would go beyond the 5dIII. I'm not sure I agree with the 1/4000th, but, it seems to be the way both Canon and Nikon are differentiating lines (D600/D800 and 5D3/6D). Wouldn't surprise me if the 70D had 1/4000th, leaving the 1/8000th for the 7dII

It might stay at 1/250.  APS-Cs have smaller sensors, so it is less demanding requirement for the shutter assembly.  The 60D and 7D have faster sync speeds than the 5D III already...

I'm hoping the 70D will be closer to the 7D II than the 4Ti.  The Ti line gets refreshed more often than the xxD and xD lines, so in 3 or 4 years, the Rebels can approach the 70D in specs in time for the 70D to be refreshed.

[bdunbar79]

That's one thing I liked about the 1D4; the 1/300 flash sync speed.

[Don Haines]

I expect this "70D" to be a 7D with wifi and a slightly lower build quality with a reduction of minor features (1/4000th shutter, 1/200th flash sync, 5fps, SD card slot, no PC sync and no headphone jack)

Since the 60D is already at 1/8000th shutter speed, it is a fairly good bet that a 70D will not be 1/4000th.

[Marsu42]

The plastic body which makes the 60D lighter is not really a bad thing on my list either.

+1 - when I bought the 60d I was very weary of the plastic body and even considered buying one of the last 50d - today I know that it doesn't make much of a difference, if I drop the camera the first thing to break is the lens or parts of the camera that aren't protected by a metal body either (displays, flash, ...).

Looking good to be returning to build of 40d/50d hope it is in same body as the 7d and would come with Wi-fi and GPS like the great 6D.

I'm pretty sure it'll be the same body size as the 60d - Canon obviously thinks this size and layout has a future or they wouldn't have put the 6d in it. Imho the only questions are:

... will the 70d have gps/wifi and not an internal flash (that's where the antennas are on the 6d)? Or can they do both, probably in a full plastic body again for the gps/wifi signal?

... will Canon just do a 650d-style sensor update for live view af with maybe some iso optimizations like on the 6d - or will they really put a new sensor gen in it? My bet is that only the 7d2 in the end of 2013 will get a really new sensor, Canon has enough other firmware and hardware improvements in store to make the 70d a noticeable update from the 60d.

[jeffa4444]

No new camera launches by Canon at Focus on Imaging, Birmingham. Camera world had dropped the 60d body to £ 510 (with Canon £ 60 cash back offer) and bundled Lightroom 4 and a 16GB SDHC card, they sold out!

The 7d was not lowered in price but was also bundled with Lightroom 4 and strangely the same 16GB SDHC card even though the camera uses a CF UDMA card. The other company selling kit was Calumet but they were slightly more expensive than Camera World.

Canon denied all knowledge as you would expect of a replacement for the 60d but we can safely assume from the show deal price its coming soon.

[FTBPhotography]

I personally dont see why everyone feels the need to upgrade every two seconds. I need to upgrade my 3 year old 7D!

Meanwhile, its only got 1200 shutter clicks on it.