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Will 70d have a new sensor?

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Re: Will the 70d have a new sensor?
« Reply #30 on: March 01, 2013, 05:15:43 AM »
Hope so, I'd like to see Canons R+D to materialize! Because if it doesn't happen in current outings, how will it in the higher priced bodies...would be a nice indication that Canon is handling certain issues discussed here.
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Re: Will the 70d have a new sensor?
« Reply #30 on: March 01, 2013, 05:15:43 AM »

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Re: Will the 70d have a new sensor?
« Reply #31 on: March 01, 2013, 06:01:42 AM »
I voted "yes" but I am highly inaccurate in my guesses about what Canon will do so prepare for diappointment  ;D

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Re: Will the 70d have a new sensor?
« Reply #32 on: March 01, 2013, 06:19:00 AM »
7D2 is likely to have the new sensor.
70D... maybe someone can stress that a 70D released before the new 7D2 could initially affect 7D1 sales, but if Canon sticks to the same 18Mpx sensor for 70D, considering that it will be on sale until (my 2 cents) 2015... I just can't imagine that a 2009 sensor can survive for such a long time in the Digital Age.
 
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Re: Will the 70d have a new sensor?
« Reply #33 on: March 01, 2013, 03:32:41 PM »
7D2 is likely to have the new sensor.
70D... maybe someone can stress that a 70D released before the new 7D2 could initially affect 7D1 sales, but if Canon sticks to the same 18Mpx sensor for 70D, considering that it will be on sale until (my 2 cents) 2015... I just can't imagine that a 2009 sensor can survive for such a long time in the Digital Age.

I can imagine it, especially given how long Canon have kept the sensor alive up to now.  We've actually been in a "digital age" since the 1960's, or before...what things are digital, and what are not, is what changes...along with the nature and quality of digital.

It is still funny to me, to hear downloaded music described as "digital"...as if its the first digital music.  CD's were the first consumer-oriented digital music...and their format is still higher resolution than MP3, because MP3 is "lossy", by design.  (There are other compression formats that aren't lossy, but nobody seems to care about those.)  MP3 was a compromise designed to save memory space.  It's certainly not more advanced than "CD quality" music...and there are other formats superior to CD.

So that leaves us with what's really always the determining factor:  What will the market demand, and what are they willing to pay for it?  "The Digital Age" is a meaningless descriptor now.  Someday in the future, our kids or grandkids will laugh at us when they see pictures or video of us walking around oblvious to our surroundings, as we obsess over texting or browsing on our smartphones.  The present "digital age" will just be thought of as "quaint" in the future...of course...assuming there isn't a collapse of civilization...which can't be ruled out.

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Re: Will the 70d have a new sensor?
« Reply #34 on: March 01, 2013, 05:02:08 PM »
CarlTN, I have no idea what your trying to say.
As an aside I think mp3 were more about saving bandwidth than memory, but at this point, really, who cares?

if they do another 18mp 7d sensor rehash they will be making a huge mistake. Now I don't care much if the megapickle count stays at 18. that's fine, but it had better be a damn site better then what they are dishing out now.

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Re: Will the 70d have a new sensor?
« Reply #35 on: March 01, 2013, 05:19:22 PM »
Yes it will have a new sensor....
New sensor > 18MP, Digic 5, 500nm production line

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Re: Will the 70d have a new sensor?
« Reply #36 on: March 01, 2013, 05:23:52 PM »
Depends what you mean by new sensor. It may well have a tweaked 18MP sensor that is new or some 20-24MP sensor that is new. But it sounds to be too early for any truly new, new process sensor. I just hope we get that even for the 7D2/3D/5D4.

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Re: Will the 70d have a new sensor?
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Re: Will the 70d have a new sensor?
« Reply #37 on: March 01, 2013, 05:57:56 PM »
Depends what you mean by new sensor. It may well have a tweaked 18MP sensor that is new or some 20-24MP sensor that is new. But it sounds to be too early for any truly new, new process sensor. I just hope we get that even for the 7D2/3D/5D4.

I can see the 70D getting a "tweaked" 18mp sensor. That is more what the 5D III's sensor is...it was "new", but more of an evolution on the 5D II sensor, rather than a revolutionary new sensor.

I seriously hope the 7D II gets something revolutionary. Canon keeps claiming they have something radical in the pipe....but nothing more than a claim. Would be nice to see it realized in something physical...soon.
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Re: Will the 70d have a new sensor?
« Reply #38 on: March 01, 2013, 08:35:43 PM »
CarlTN, I have no idea what your trying to say.


Looks like you got the gist of it to me.

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Re: Will the 70d have a new sensor?
« Reply #39 on: March 06, 2013, 06:41:21 PM »
Depends what you mean by new sensor. It may well have a tweaked 18MP sensor that is new or some 20-24MP sensor that is new. But it sounds to be too early for any truly new, new process sensor. I just hope we get that even for the 7D2/3D/5D4.

I can see the 70D getting a "tweaked" 18mp sensor. That is more what the 5D III's sensor is...it was "new", but more of an evolution on the 5D II sensor, rather than a revolutionary new sensor.

I seriously hope the 7D II gets something revolutionary. Canon keeps claiming they have something radical in the pipe....but nothing more than a claim. Would be nice to see it realized in something physical...soon.

+1 on that.  tweaked or evolutionary or even incremental -- the words themselves don't matter much and may be splitting hairs anyway.  what the new Canon bodies need is sensors from a new generation 180nm fab process.  short of that, we are facing "tweeked" or otherwise evolutionary or incremental updates.  I Think the show to watch will be what body Canon decides to show their 180nm cards:

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Re: Will the 70d have a new sensor?
« Reply #40 on: March 06, 2013, 08:44:03 PM »
Depends what you mean by new sensor. It may well have a tweaked 18MP sensor that is new or some 20-24MP sensor that is new. But it sounds to be too early for any truly new, new process sensor. I just hope we get that even for the 7D2/3D/5D4.

I can see the 70D getting a "tweaked" 18mp sensor. That is more what the 5D III's sensor is...it was "new", but more of an evolution on the 5D II sensor, rather than a revolutionary new sensor.

I seriously hope the 7D II gets something revolutionary. Canon keeps claiming they have something radical in the pipe....but nothing more than a claim. Would be nice to see it realized in something physical...soon.

+1 on that.  tweaked or evolutionary or even incremental -- the words themselves don't matter much and may be splitting hairs anyway.  what the new Canon bodies need is sensors from a new generation 180nm fab process.  short of that, we are facing "tweeked" or otherwise evolutionary or incremental updates.  I Think the show to watch will be what body Canon decides to show their 180nm cards:

With what...or if...Canon anon decides to show their 180nm cards. I don't think there is any guarantee that Canon actually WILL release a 180nm part this year. I think it is just the supreme hope of the sensor IQ crowd that Canon will step up their game. They pride themselves on the "all in house" design and manufactured approach...and while I believe Canon's steppers can handle subwavelength processes down to 90nm, I don't know if they have a proven ability to pump out high yield commercial products on it.
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Re: Will the 70d have a new sensor?
« Reply #41 on: March 09, 2013, 02:06:58 AM »
After 3-4 years, hard to imagine that Canon would not improve the sensor

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Re: Will the 70d have a new sensor?
« Reply #42 on: March 09, 2013, 02:36:35 AM »
Hi,
   IMHO, 700D, 70D and 7DII will all using the same new sensor... build quality, focusing speed, frame rate and features available will differential the models. Release sequence will be 70D, 700D and 7DII.

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Re: Will the 70d have a new sensor?
« Reply #43 on: March 09, 2013, 03:00:10 AM »
Hi,
   IMHO, 700D, 70D and 7DII will all using the same new sensor... build quality, focusing speed, frame rate and features available will differential the models. Release sequence will be 70D, 700D and 7DII.

   Have a nice day.

So a $1200 body will have the same sensor as a $2500 + body?  Nah.

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Re: Will the 70d have a new sensor?
« Reply #44 on: March 09, 2013, 04:37:24 AM »
I hope it has a new sensor
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Re: Will the 70d have a new sensor?
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