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Will 70d have a new sensor?

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Re: Will the 70d have a new sensor?
« Reply #60 on: March 21, 2013, 04:13:46 PM »
It looks like I was correct in my guessing.  The 70D will have an 18 mp sensor, a "new" one.  This will not be the same sensor that the 7D2 will get.

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Re: Will the 70d have a new sensor?
« Reply #60 on: March 21, 2013, 04:13:46 PM »

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Re: Will the 70d have a new sensor?
« Reply #61 on: March 21, 2013, 07:14:40 PM »

Source: Some photographing girl-&boyfriends from youth, when we studied at the art-school, working for an company that works for Canon. Yes, the 7D2 rumors say, that is has more MP. But is priced over the 5DIII.
70D: Let us see.... We will know in end of spring


Rumors from Japan:
70D 1200-1500€
7D2 might be over 2500-3000€!!!

The Japanese Rumors say that Canon was surprised about the specs of the Nikon D7100. The D7100 is better and cheaper than the 70D will be.

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canadian rumors say the 7D MK2 will have a new 28 MP sensor and canon was suprise the nikon D7100 can not match the 70D.
If the 7D II is 28 MP I will probably be keeping my 7D I.  :(  No need for a high MP monster with little or no improvement in noise.

And IMHO the 70D *could* get the same upgraded sensor as the 7D II, but there is no way it is going to get it first.  If the first camera out is the 70D it will have the same old 18MP sensor.  The 7D MK II will get any new sensor tech first.

If, and that's a big if, but if they price the 7D2 similar to the 5D3 I think they could get away with putting an APS-H sensor in it without de-valuing the 1D4 too much.

What would you say to a 28MP 7D2 with a bigger sensor?

I don't actually expect it to happen, but I think it would be a smart move.
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Re: Will the 70d have a new sensor?
« Reply #62 on: March 21, 2013, 07:19:11 PM »
What would you say to a 28MP 7D2 with a bigger sensor?

I don't actually expect it to happen, but I think it would be a smart move.

well i could give you a dozend examples what would be a smart move.

including GPS or/and WIFI in the 700D would be a smart move.
would make the camera a real update over the 650D.

but hey this is canon we speak about! ;)

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Re: Will the 70d have a new sensor?
« Reply #63 on: March 21, 2013, 07:21:07 PM »

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Will the 70d have a new sensor?

lets hope not:

Canon 550d - 18mp - DXO Mark sensor score: 66
Canon 600d - 18mp - DXO Mark sensor score: 65
Canon 650d - 18mp - DXO Mark sensor score: 62
Canon 700d - 18mp - DXO Mark sensor score: 5?
Canon  70d  - 18mp - DXO Mark sensor score: 5?

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Re: Will the 70d have a new sensor?
« Reply #64 on: March 21, 2013, 10:39:29 PM »
Sensor could be 18 MP to take advantage of their manufacturing expertise but have improvements in the micro lenses, electronics for better S/N, greater dynamic range, ...


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Re: Will the 70d have a new sensor?
« Reply #65 on: March 22, 2013, 01:10:59 AM »
Sensor could be 18 MP to take advantage of their manufacturing expertise but have improvements in the micro lenses, electronics for better S/N, greater dynamic range, ...

yep canon COULD haver done that in the past 4 years, but as you can see from the dxomark results, the trend is downwards.

Look carefully andyou will relatively flat response as lower priced cameras were introduced.  Exception for Eos-M and 650D (T4i).  The latter surprises me as I would have expect the 650D to be on par (at least) with the 600D.

Hopefully 70D and the 7Dii will be step up, but hoping does not produce great camera. 

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Re: Will the 70d have a new sensor?
« Reply #66 on: March 22, 2013, 08:01:40 AM »
that annoys me.

even when the differences are not visible, canon should improve their sensors not make them worse.  :-[

i guess as the new sensor has a wider hybrid AF area to cover the resulst will be again worse.

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Re: Will the 70d have a new sensor?
« Reply #66 on: March 22, 2013, 08:01:40 AM »

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Re: Will the 70d have a new sensor?
« Reply #67 on: March 22, 2013, 08:37:08 AM »
I think Canon wants the sensor in the 70D to be a unique selling point compared to the T5i. I believe thats why they put the old 18mp sensor into the T5i while a new 18mp sensor is already available (SL1). I guess the 70D will get the new 18mp sensor.

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Re: Will the 70d have a new sensor?
« Reply #68 on: March 22, 2013, 09:45:04 AM »
Allow me to quote the lyrics from a Doris Day song....

Que sara sara, whatever will be will be, the future's not ours to see, que sera sera.

after i finish my tea, I'm going back out to shoot squirrels and chikadees.
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Re: Will the 70d have a new sensor?
« Reply #69 on: March 22, 2013, 10:14:22 AM »
The only major flaw (as a sports/wildlife) of the current 7D is the sensor.  I would upgrade to the 7DII if the camera was exactly the same, but had a new sensor with lower noise at higher ISO.

Therefore, introducing other features and leaving the sensor the same is pointless.  I would suspect Canon fully knows this.

What I do believe (but hope not), is that the 7DII will be a significant improvement all the way around - but the price will be significantly higher.  Therefore, out of reach for many of the current 7D owners, which will be dissapointing.
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Re: Will the 70d have a new sensor?
« Reply #70 on: March 22, 2013, 10:58:50 AM »
Canon 550d - 18mp - DXO Mark sensor score: 66
Canon 600d - 18mp - DXO Mark sensor score: 65
Canon 650d - 18mp - DXO Mark sensor score: 62
Canon 700d - 18mp - DXO Mark sensor score: 5?
Canon  70d  - 18mp - DXO Mark sensor score: 5?
DxO can take those scores and shove it in their pompous "you know wheres" ... I've seen far too many fantastic images made with every single one of those cameras, listed above, to not take DxO as the word of God.
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Re: Will the 70d have a new sensor?
« Reply #71 on: March 22, 2013, 11:28:02 AM »
Canon 550d - 18mp - DXO Mark sensor score: 66
Canon 600d - 18mp - DXO Mark sensor score: 65
Canon 650d - 18mp - DXO Mark sensor score: 62
Canon 700d - 18mp - DXO Mark sensor score: 5?
Canon  70d  - 18mp - DXO Mark sensor score: 5?
DxO can take those scores and shove it in their pompous "you know wheres" ... I've seen far too many fantastic images made with every single one of those cameras, listed above, to not take DxO as the word of God.

The fact that it's possible to take fantastic photos with a Rebel is not inconsistent with DXO's scores or the trend they imply, and hardly shows that there aren't better APS-C sensors out there. 

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Re: Will the 70d have a new sensor?
« Reply #72 on: March 22, 2013, 11:47:35 AM »
Canon 550d - 18mp - DXO Mark sensor score: 66
Canon 600d - 18mp - DXO Mark sensor score: 65
Canon 650d - 18mp - DXO Mark sensor score: 62
Canon 700d - 18mp - DXO Mark sensor score: 5?
Canon  70d  - 18mp - DXO Mark sensor score: 5?
DxO can take those scores and shove it in their pompous "you know wheres" ... I've seen far too many fantastic images made with every single one of those cameras, listed above, to not take DxO as the word of God.

The fact that it's possible to take fantastic photos with a Rebel is not inconsistent with DXO's scores or the trend they imply, and hardly shows that there aren't better APS-C sensors out there.
So people can go buy those "better APS-C sensors out there" instead of cribbing here.
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Re: Will the 70d have a new sensor?
« Reply #72 on: March 22, 2013, 11:47:35 AM »

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Re: Will the 70d have a new sensor?
« Reply #73 on: March 22, 2013, 11:54:50 AM »
I just hope to see a new sensor in 7D2 first (Aug-Sep 2013) and then in 70D (may be next year). I don't really care about new crop DSLR, but if Canon puts something interesting into their EOS M successor then I may buy one.
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Re: Will the 70d have a new sensor?
« Reply #74 on: March 22, 2013, 12:44:59 PM »
Canon 550d - 18mp - DXO Mark sensor score: 66
Canon 600d - 18mp - DXO Mark sensor score: 65
Canon 650d - 18mp - DXO Mark sensor score: 62
Canon 700d - 18mp - DXO Mark sensor score: 5?
Canon  70d  - 18mp - DXO Mark sensor score: 5?
DxO can take those scores and shove it in their pompous "you know wheres" ... I've seen far too many fantastic images made with every single one of those cameras, listed above, to not take DxO as the word of God.

The fact that it's possible to take fantastic photos with a Rebel is not inconsistent with DXO's scores or the trend they imply, and hardly shows that there aren't better APS-C sensors out there.

yeah that argumentation from him is so stupid i don´t know what to say.
 
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Not as stupid as people cribbing & 8itching here instead of go buying what they feel is a better sensor i.e. do something about your so called "problem" instead of whining.
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Re: Will the 70d have a new sensor?
« Reply #74 on: March 22, 2013, 12:44:59 PM »