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Will 70d have a new sensor?

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Re: Will the 70d have a new sensor?
« Reply #90 on: April 03, 2013, 06:50:26 PM »
When the canon 70d will be available?
Nobody knows for sure, but rumors say, there will be an april announcement. The 60D is on the market for 2 1/2 years (which is very long for xxD body) and its prices are at an alltime low. So it could/should come before summer.

I hope so ... and whats the price? 900 $?

Obviously, no one knows the price. I doubt it is as low as $900 though since that is probably the price of the T5i. I'm guessing $1100-$1400 body only.

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Re: Will the 70d have a new sensor?
« Reply #90 on: April 03, 2013, 06:50:26 PM »

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Re: Will the 70d have a new sensor?
« Reply #91 on: April 03, 2013, 09:50:51 PM »
"Skyfall" was shot on the Arri Alexa, "Prometheus" on the Red Epic both have sensors slightly larger than APS-C both films were sharp at the cinema. The Arri Alexa has 8.25micron pixels, the Red Epic has 5.4micron pixels the Sony F55 4.2micron pixels the Canon 7d 4.3micron pixels. However the Alexa has 14 stops dynamic range, the Epic 13 stops (18 with HDR) and the F55 a claimed 14 stops of dynamic range the Canon 7d has 8-9 stops.

Great info!  I loved both movies, and was especially surprised at how good "Prometheus" was.  There weren't even any teenage vampire love triangles anywhere during the movie.  Some directors still know how to make a good movie that appeals to people older than 19 or so.

I saw Prometheus in an "imax" certified room.  The sound is usually too loud there, and distorted, but not with this particular movie.  The dynamic impact, the bass slam and extension...reminded me a little of the first Jurassic Park 20 years ago.  I have a feeling the soundtrack won't sound quite as good for the 3D re-release of Jurassic, but I will see it anyway.

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Re: Will the 70d have a new sensor?
« Reply #92 on: April 13, 2013, 05:49:49 AM »

You never get a worse result with higher resolution camera regardless of the lens  you are using.

Is that a blanket statement applying to all cameras?  ::) ::)

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Try Nikon D800 at 36MP with mid range (and below) lenses.
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Re: Will the 70d have a new sensor?
« Reply #93 on: April 13, 2013, 12:19:51 PM »

You never get a worse result with higher resolution camera regardless of the lens  you are using.

Is that a blanket statement applying to all cameras?  ::) ::)

yes
Try Nikon D800 at 36MP with mid range (and below) lenses.

I suggest you sell ALL your Canon  gear and get a Nokia 808 cellphone. With 41 megapixels it MUST be better.
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Re: Will the 70d have a new sensor?
« Reply #94 on: April 13, 2013, 12:30:34 PM »

You never get a worse result with higher resolution camera regardless of the lens  you are using.

Is that a blanket statement applying to all cameras?  ::) ::)

yes
Try Nikon D800 at 36MP with mid range (and below) lenses.

I suggest you sell ALL your Canon  gear and get a Nokia 808 cellphone. With 41 megapixels it MUST be better.

and it IS BETTER :D ... than other cellphones.
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Re: Will the 70d have a new sensor?
« Reply #95 on: April 14, 2013, 03:53:22 PM »
Is it just me or does this thread sound a lot like a bunch of people arguing over the superiority of 4x5 film for street photography and 35mm for landscapes?
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Re: Will the 70d have a new sensor?
« Reply #96 on: April 16, 2013, 06:56:52 AM »
Is it just me or does this thread sound a lot like a bunch of people arguing over the superiority of 4x5 film for street photography and 35mm for landscapes?

Actually, this thread sounds a lot like a bunch of children arguing over nothing ;D
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Re: Will the 70d have a new sensor?
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Re: Will the 70d have a new sensor?
« Reply #97 on: April 16, 2013, 07:02:22 AM »

You never get a worse result with higher resolution camera regardless of the lens  you are using.

Is that a blanket statement applying to all cameras?  ::) ::)

yes

So basically you are telling me that the results of a 18MP rebel are better than the 16MP 1D Mark IV?  :o :o
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Re: Will the 70d have a new sensor?
« Reply #98 on: April 16, 2013, 08:43:40 AM »

Agree with those saying that the 70D will not have a new sensor.   The 70D can't be perceived by customers as the top of the line APS-C.  But given how old the 7D1 is, people may believe that the 70D is better anyway.

For that reason, I'm really surprised the 7D2 isn't coming out before the 70D.  It's far more logical to go like this:

Lead with 7D2 --> extra processor for highest burst, brand spanking new sensor, 1DX / 5D3 AF, high-end $2k offering, etc.
Stagger 70D 6-12 months later --> just one processor for modest burst, that same 7D2 sensor, a 7D1-like AF
Stagger the next Rebel after that --> same 7D2 sensor but with nerfed AF and burst

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I agree with this. The 7D came out before the 60D, so the 7DMkII should be released before the 70D. It makes a lot more sense to go in this order, but hey, Canon doesn't make sense a lot of the time.  ;D

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Re: Will the 70d have a new sensor?
« Reply #99 on: April 16, 2013, 09:09:12 AM »

You never get a worse result with higher resolution camera regardless of the lens  you are using.

Is that a blanket statement applying to all cameras?  ::) ::)

yes

So basically you are telling me that the results of a 18MP rebel are better than the 16MP 1D Mark IV?  :o :o

no, then we are discussing 2 different sensor sizes , its requires more from the lens with a smaller sensor and 18Mp

Exactly! That is why I asked you whether your statement applied to all cameras
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Re: Will the 70d have a new sensor?
« Reply #100 on: April 16, 2013, 09:24:18 AM »
I tend to believe that it will have the same sensor as the SL1 which is supposed to be a new design although still 18MP.
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Re: Will the 70d have a new sensor?
« Reply #101 on: April 16, 2013, 09:26:10 AM »
yes is does, and read back what I have answered you from the beginning

Guess I must have missed it ... where?
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Re: Will the 70d have a new sensor?
« Reply #102 on: April 16, 2013, 12:49:54 PM »
yes is does, and read back what I have answered you from the beginning

Guess I must have missed it ... where?

It's the same old runaround bullsh*t JR...just ignore it (I believe Ankorwatt is Mikael, and you know his arguments). You'll get sucked into the rathole so deep you won't find your way out again.  :P
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Re: Will the 70d have a new sensor?
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Re: Will the 70d have a new sensor?
« Reply #103 on: April 16, 2013, 02:50:46 PM »
sorry, no I said only that you do not lose anything with higher resolution in a sensor regardless which lens you use, look at page 6, do I need to add that OFFCOURSE it is the same sensor size we are talking about

And I think you are a little bit rude when you are talking about the same  bull sh...
it's derogatory  (nice word I found)

Your the type who backtalks, quibbles, beats around the bush, dodges direct questions, obfuscates, etc. in order to make your arguments. If you would just directly answer peoples questions, you wouldn't have so many problems. Because you DO do those things, well...people don't trust you. And, every time you get involved, the conversation tends to go downhill, into the death spiral of you perpetually blanket stating "Canon Sucks", and everyone else trying to present reasonable arguments as to why they don't suck...they just aren't the best of the best at sensors "currently".

Everyone knows you hate Canon, and no one cares. I'm just curious when you'll actually pick up on that fact...
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Re: Will the 70d have a new sensor?
« Reply #103 on: April 16, 2013, 02:50:46 PM »