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Re: The Next Zeiss Lenses? [CR2]
« Reply #30 on: March 04, 2013, 10:50:30 AM »
Meh....hard to get excited over these.    I have and love the Zeiss 21, 25, 50mp and 100mp and love them all. IF this lens is like the 55 1.4 then it will cost the same too which means 3000 Euro or even more dollars.  Unfortunately Zeiss seems to have completely turned their backs on the enthusiast market. 

I have a feeling Zeiss lens announcements will be like when car and driver magazine shows a new Ferrari.  I look at the picture, say wow that is really cool, and then forget completely about it. 

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Re: The Next Zeiss Lenses? [CR2]
« Reply #31 on: March 04, 2013, 01:43:21 PM »
Meh....hard to get excited over these.    I have and love the Zeiss 21, 25, 50mp and 100mp and love them all. IF this lens is like the 55 1.4 then it will cost the same too which means 3000 Euro or even more dollars.  Unfortunately Zeiss seems to have completely turned their backs on the enthusiast market. 

I have a feeling Zeiss lens announcements will be like when car and driver magazine shows a new Ferrari.  I look at the picture, say wow that is really cool, and then forget completely about it.


No they didn't forget about the lower end of the market:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/583975-REG/Zeiss_1677_817_Normal_50mm_f_1_4_ZE.html

Get that one.

I've been waiting for a high end 50 forever, and to finally see a company sacrifice size weight and price to provided the most awesome alternative to the others is JUST what I want.
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Re: The Next Zeiss Lenses? [CR2]
« Reply #32 on: March 04, 2013, 02:19:17 PM »
If Zeiss would just put AF, I'd never own any canon lenses.

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Re: The Next Zeiss Lenses? [CR2]
« Reply #33 on: March 04, 2013, 04:25:55 PM »
If Zeiss would just put AF, I'd never own any canon lenses.

I wonder why they don't make AF lenses for Canon or Nikon bodies?
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Re: The Next Zeiss Lenses? [CR2]
« Reply #34 on: March 04, 2013, 04:42:07 PM »
If Zeiss would just put AF, I'd never own any canon lenses.

I wonder why they don't make AF lenses for Canon or Nikon bodies?

Because $0ny doesn't want to.  >:(

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« Reply #35 on: March 04, 2013, 05:20:37 PM »
If Zeiss would just put AF, I'd never own any canon lenses.

I wonder why they don't make AF lenses for Canon or Nikon bodies?

Because $0ny doesn't want to.  >:(

Don't they make AF lenses for Sony DSLR systems?
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Re: The Next Zeiss Lenses? [CR2]
« Reply #36 on: March 04, 2013, 05:25:03 PM »
If Zeiss would just put AF, I'd never own any canon lenses.

I wonder why they don't make AF lenses for Canon or Nikon bodies?

Because $0ny doesn't want to.  >:(

Don't they make AF lenses for Sony DSLR systems?

Yes. If Zeiss made AF Lenses for Canon & Nikon, $0ny would lose a selling point.

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« Reply #36 on: March 04, 2013, 05:25:03 PM »

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Re: The Next Zeiss Lenses? [CR2]
« Reply #37 on: March 04, 2013, 05:55:12 PM »
damn I was really hoping for a zeiss 21mm TSE
not sure why they dont make a tilt shift but i bet they would do a seriously good job of one
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Re: The Next Zeiss Lenses? [CR2]
« Reply #38 on: March 06, 2013, 02:43:09 PM »
damn I was really hoping for a zeiss 21mm TSE
not sure why they dont make a tilt shift but i bet they would do a seriously good job of one

That would be an interesting lens. Zeiss microcontrast with the Canon TSE 24 II's functionality.  Landscape photog's dream!!!

The issue I see is the vast majority of Zeiss' "affordable" (Under or around 2K?) lenses are just re-issues of 20+ year-old designs with modern mounts and some have auto aperture.  The Hollywood 28/2, the 100 Makro, the 35/1.4, the 21/2.8 all come to mind. 

 To make a TS lens you need a much larger image circle than a normal full-frame lens.  The Zeiss 21 is a very complicated lens already and I do not think it could be scaled up without a complete re-design.   Since a 50-55mm f1.4 is one of the simplest lenses to design, and the fact that they are asking 3,000 euros for their new version of a lens with that simplicity, I can imagine a 21mm TS would be in the $8-10,000 range.  Perhaps they could re-use one of their medium format lenses and add a tilt/shift base? (though I don't know if 21mm is even possible on a med format system)
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Re: The Next Zeiss Lenses? [CR2]
« Reply #39 on: March 06, 2013, 03:10:56 PM »
Zeiss makes some great lens, yes, but I also think they make mediocre and poor candidates ...Their 85mm f1.4 is the biggest turd in recent years.
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« Reply #40 on: March 06, 2013, 03:41:43 PM »
Zeiss makes some great lens, yes, but I also think they make mediocre and poor candidates ...Their 85mm f1.4 is the biggest turd in recent years.

It will be very interesting to see the new 85 ...
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« Reply #41 on: March 14, 2013, 02:15:02 PM »
I recently attended the NANPA Show in Jacksonville, FL and Zeiss had a booth there.  They had the 55mm f1.4 and examples shot with it compared to the their 50mm f1.4 ZF.2 and the difference was truly beyond NIGHT AND DAY!! No exaggeration!

It was AMAZING!!  They had 100% Blow-up from various spots within the frame, corners, highlights, textured areas, etc both shot at f1.4 and anyone who looked at it reacted the same way - WOW!!  The results wide open were spectacular! 

They seem to hint that Canon would be joining the hi-meg count megapixel game shortly.  Apparently the current line of Nikon and Canon lenses are out-resolved by the new sensor of cameras such as the D800. 

So we'll see the 55mm first followed by a 28mm f1.4 and 85mm f1.4 shortly.  Asked why no AF, and was told that Canon and Nikon guard their technology and only open it up to Japanese companies.  That would explain Sigma and Tamron being able to have AF in EOS and F mount. 

But they said these will be "the best optics in the DSLR world PERIOD.  The lenses won't be cheap, hinted at roughly $4K dollars.  But must say, I was IMPRESSED!

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Re: The Next Zeiss Lenses? [CR2]
« Reply #42 on: March 14, 2013, 04:00:25 PM »
I recently attended the NANPA Show in Jacksonville, FL and Zeiss had a booth there.  They had the 55mm f1.4 and examples shot with it compared to the their 50mm f1.4 ZF.2 and the difference was truly beyond NIGHT AND DAY!! No exaggeration!

It was AMAZING!!  They had 100% Blow-up from various spots within the frame, corners, highlights, textured areas, etc both shot at f1.4 and anyone who looked at it reacted the same way - WOW!!  The results wide open were spectacular! 

They seem to hint that Canon would be joining the hi-meg count megapixel game shortly.  Apparently the current line of Nikon and Canon lenses are out-resolved by the new sensor of cameras such as the D800. 

So we'll see the 55mm first followed by a 28mm f1.4 and 85mm f1.4 shortly.  Asked why no AF, and was told that Canon and Nikon guard their technology and only open it up to Japanese companies.  That would explain Sigma and Tamron being able to have AF in EOS and F mount. 

But they said these will be "the best optics in the DSLR world PERIOD.  The lenses won't be cheap, hinted at roughly $4K dollars.  But must say, I was IMPRESSED!

Sweet! Thanks a lot for sharing, I hope others seen it first hand join in and share what they see and feel.

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Re: The Next Zeiss Lenses? [CR2]
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« Reply #43 on: March 14, 2013, 04:39:20 PM »
Does anybody know if Zeiss 100 f2 makro is going to be updated any time soon?

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