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Photozone spanks the 24-70 F4 USM L IS
« on: March 04, 2013, 01:00:42 PM »

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Re: Photozone spanks the 24-70 F4 USM L IS
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2013, 01:18:44 PM »
I don't know if I would call that a spanking. The review is mostly very positive with one big gotcha. That big gotcha plus the high cost of this lens means I would expect few to choose it over the 24-105. Maybe that does add up to a spanking.  ;)
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Re: Photozone spanks the 24-70 F4 USM L IS
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2013, 01:32:57 PM »
This lens was DOA @ 1499$. IQ wouldn't of mattered at that price.

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Re: Photozone spanks the 24-70 F4 USM L IS
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2013, 01:50:45 PM »
Not a wholly unflattering portrait of a lens. Yes price seems a little high for what you get but I am sure the little Japanese guys at canons advertising and marketing department know more than I do so they obviously think there is a market for this lens. I also assume the 24-105 will soon go the way of the dinosaurs or well see an update to that lens (I'd actually be really interested in that) probably at a much higher price point. Fwiw there seems to be little reason to buy this lens unless you have red ring envy or really care about weight, the tamron is cheaper, faster, and also has IS.

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Re: Photozone spanks the 24-70 F4 USM L IS
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2013, 01:53:53 PM »
I don't know if I would call that a spanking. The review is mostly very positive with one big gotcha. That big gotcha plus the high cost of this lens means I would expect few to choose it over the 24-105. Maybe that does add up to a spanking.  ;)

Well... Residual Spherical abborations, focus shift, soft @ F 4, and a not so compelling price.. I'll hold on to my 24-105 for a while longer. A lens that continue to deliver. ;)
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Re: Photozone spanks the 24-70 F4 USM L IS
« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2013, 01:55:14 PM »
Not a wholly unflattering portrait of a lens. Yes price seems a little high for what you get but I am sure the little Japanese guys at canons advertising and marketing department know more than I do so they obviously think there is a market for this lens. I also assume the 24-105 will soon go the way of the dinosaurs or well see an update to that lens (I'd actually be really interested in that) probably at a much higher price point. Fwiw there seems to be little reason to buy this lens unless you have red ring envy or really care about weight, the tamron is cheaper, faster, and also has IS.

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Re: Photozone spanks the 24-70 F4 USM L IS
« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2013, 02:50:30 PM »
By their own numbers, resolution is excellent at every aperture.  Just be sure to stop down for macro shots ... Standard operating procedure for any macro work.

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Re: Photozone spanks the 24-70 F4 USM L IS
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Re: Photozone spanks the 24-70 F4 USM L IS
« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2013, 03:02:15 PM »
By their own numbers, resolution is excellent at every aperture.  Just be sure to stop down for macro shots ... Standard operating procedure for any macro work.

Agree.  If the focus shift only happens in macro mode, then it's not too big of a concern to pick the f-stop first.  It would behave like a MP-E 65 where focus and magnification are linked.  It is a quirky lens though.

It'd make more sense closer to 1k as opposed to 1.5k.  I'm guessing the price will fall faster for this lens than other recent Canon releases since its initial pricing is so out of whack.

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Re: Photozone spanks the 24-70 F4 USM L IS
« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2013, 03:15:43 PM »
This lens was DOA @ 1499$. IQ wouldn't of mattered at that price.
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Cannot really see the point with this lens, one could get tammy 24-70 + 100 mm non-L macro lens for that amount and these two are f/2.8 lenses after all...

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Re: Photozone spanks the 24-70 F4 USM L IS
« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2013, 03:21:53 PM »
This lens was DOA @ 1499$. IQ wouldn't of mattered at that price.
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Cannot really see the point with this lens, one could get tammy 24-70 + 100 mm non-L macro lens for that amount and these two are f/2.8 lenses after all...

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Or even

28mm 1.8
50mm 1.4/1.8
100mm F/2

or

24-105L (Used) + 100L (used)

or

5Dc + 24-105 + 50mm 1.8

or

1500$ worth of frito lays.

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Re: Photozone spanks the 24-70 F4 USM L IS
« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2013, 03:48:55 PM »
Quasimodo, even though this is a lens I have zero interest in buying, the analysis on Photozone was fascinating.  Thanks for bringing this to CR forum!

An earlier post referred to the brilliance of the marketing team at Canon.  Was that tongue-in-cheek?  I hope so.  This is a lens looking for a market, we didn't need it, and it would be a horrible shame if it turns out to be a replacement for the more useful ef 24-105mm.  Not sure how this 24-70mm f4 can compete against a cheaper, longer lens that in many ways delivers equal or better performance.  Seems like a sad new kit lens, especially with the focus shifting problems reported in the review.

Some day, a better version of the 24-105mm would be welcome, say with better IS, less distortion at 24mm, and less "nervous" bokeh.  (Love that term, "nervous," as that is exactly the feeling it generates.)  But don't chop off 35mm from the zoom range and say you are done!


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Re: Photozone spanks the 24-70 F4 USM L IS
« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2013, 03:56:29 PM »
and why does this lens have a red ring?

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Re: Photozone spanks the 24-70 F4 USM L IS
« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2013, 03:57:58 PM »
and why does this lens have a red ring?

Because of the red ring price :P

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Re: Photozone spanks the 24-70 F4 USM L IS
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Re: Photozone spanks the 24-70 F4 USM L IS
« Reply #13 on: March 04, 2013, 04:51:46 PM »
Not sure how this 24-70mm f4 can compete against a cheaper, longer lens that in many ways delivers equal or better performance. 

The cheaper one is better?  I don't think so.  As I read the resolution numbers on Photozone, the new 24-70/4L is mostly better than the 24-105/4L.  And it offers a much closer minimum focusing distance.  And it's smaller and lighter.  Except for the initial price, it would make a very attractive kit lens.

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Re: Photozone spanks the 24-70 F4 USM L IS
« Reply #14 on: March 04, 2013, 05:00:28 PM »
Not sure how this 24-70mm f4 can compete against a cheaper, longer lens that in many ways delivers equal or better performance. 

The cheaper one is better?  I don't think so.  As I read the resolution numbers on Photozone, the new 24-70/4L is mostly better than the 24-105/4L.  And it offers a much closer minimum focusing distance.  And it's smaller and lighter.  Except for the initial price, it would make a very attractive kit lens.

Any kind of definitive testing would involve 10-20 lenses from different batches.  Its unfortunate but true, lenses vary significantly from unit to unit and batch to batch.
 
I like Photozone and read their reviews, but I also read other reviews, and sometimes they are drastically different.  Klaus has to rely on owners or camera stores to lend him a lens, and if it has obvious decentering or other readily discovered fault, he gets another, but even then, there can be large differences.
 
So read and enjoy, but its just the results from one lens, a different lens will almost certainly be different.
 
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Re: Photozone spanks the 24-70 F4 USM L IS
« Reply #14 on: March 04, 2013, 05:00:28 PM »