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Re: 24-105L or 24-70L (F4 or F2.8)?
« Reply #30 on: October 01, 2013, 07:33:37 PM »
Ah, I've been in this very conundrum. I also own a 6D. I needed a general zoom for weddings, and both these lenses would have done the job. But what made the decision for me was the 2.8. If you'll be using your zoom in low light, then I'd assume you'd want the extra speed. If not, then by all means go for the 4. It'll save you some money!
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Re: 24-105L or 24-70L (F4 or F2.8)?
« Reply #30 on: October 01, 2013, 07:33:37 PM »

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Re: 24-105L or 24-70L (F4 or F2.8)?
« Reply #31 on: October 01, 2013, 08:59:33 PM »
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Re: 24-105L or 24-70L (F4 or F2.8)?
« Reply #32 on: October 02, 2013, 05:48:28 AM »
Real world.  Earlier I posted in this thread, praising the 24-105mm's use in daytime event photography.  I stand by that--for sunny weather.

We've had such a long, sunny summer that I'd forgotten about the 24-105's problems in cloudy weather, especially heavy overcast.  My copy consistently struggles with harsh contrast and color temp issues in cloudy weather.  I am using the lens hood.

The best I can describe the problem is by comparing it to using slightly too much "Clarity" in Lightroom.  The problem adds lots of time to editing big sets of event photos, because the effect varies from shot to shot just enough where applying a batch correction doesn't quite work.

In the same exact weather, same exact spot and shooting angles, same f/stop, etc, etc, my old 24-70mm still has great color and contrast, as does my 70-200mm f/2.8, so I know it is the 24-105mm.

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Re: 24-105L or 24-70L (F4 or F2.8)?
« Reply #33 on: October 02, 2013, 07:25:28 AM »
i love my 24-105, but i would want the 24-70 2.8 for wedding photography. the 24-70 and the 70-200 are a great combo.

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Re: 24-105L or 24-70L (F4 or F2.8)?
« Reply #34 on: October 11, 2013, 08:51:42 PM »
I can't read all the above, but I can give you my opinion.

Honestly, they all are very similar, but 24-70 2.8 is my favorite. It just gives more "natural" look, even thought it has a lot of distortion present across the range(no distortion at 30mm), it is still better in that regard than 24-104, and pretty much the same as 24-70 4.

You have the 70-200, so you need not worry about the range, but if you do like to have that bit of range, 24-105 will give you that, as well as pretty good IS. It is also the cheapest by far, especially now with the price drop, it is a bargain of the century.

24-70 f4 is somewhat of a combo of those two, it is a successor to the 24-105, is sharper than 24-105, but not dramatically, and you loose that range. Also, it has annoying thing where it zooms in and out a bit as you focus, which would just make me go insane(it's not dramatic, but by 5% of the frame for example).

None of these lenses will give you that "wow" effect, but they will give you very very very good results if you get to know their weaknesses and strengths.

So, if you care about the price: 24-105, and you still get a great lens.
If you want the best IQ: 24-70 2.8. It is a great tested lens, I just love it, and version II is even better, but extremely pricey.
If you want the 24-70 2.8, and need the IS more than a stop of aperture, only then would I say go for the 24-70 4 IS.

I wanted to buy 24-70 2.8 myself, but in the end I found a great deal on 24-105 (600$), so I went with it, and have no regrets, but 24-70 2.8 is a superior lens, have no doubt.
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Re: 24-105L or 24-70L (F4 or F2.8)?
« Reply #36 on: October 12, 2013, 11:04:53 AM »
I found a decent review online of all three lenses:

http://digital.photorecommendations.com/recs/2013/01/canon-24-70-f2-8-mark-ii-vs-canon-24-70-f4-is-vs-canon-24-105-f4-is/

Essentially, the 24-70 2.8 is unquestionably the king.  But it costs a lot, and may not be worth the price for what you need your lens to do.

The 24-70 f4 is much cleaner across the frame than the 24-105.  For me, if you're shooting wide, and not framing your subjects in the center of the frame, then you'll benefit more from the 24-70 f4 in this regard as well.  Same for group shots.

I currently have a 24-105 I got in a kit with my 6D.  It has worked fine for most of my uses, but I have noticed it suffer a bit on group shots or other special situations.  I recently damaged the focus barrel on it (AF still works), so I'm going to try and sell it as-is and upgrade to the 24-70 f4.  Both because of the quality improvements, but also because I like having a lighter kit for traveling that the 2.8 definitely won't deliver.  I have several primes like the 50 1.4 and 85 1.8 if I need low-light shooting, so I don't need an extra stop of light in my general purpose zoom.

With the money saved between the 4 and 2.8, you could buy a few of those primes and still pay less than you would for the more expensive zoom.
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Re: 24-105L or 24-70L (F4 or F2.8)?
« Reply #36 on: October 12, 2013, 11:04:53 AM »

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Re: 24-105L or 24-70L (F4 or F2.8)?
« Reply #37 on: October 12, 2013, 11:25:41 AM »

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Re: 24-105L or 24-70L (F4 or F2.8)?
« Reply #38 on: October 13, 2013, 02:09:46 PM »
Hard to draw any conclusions from downsized images.

It's a little clearer on the Part 2 YouTube video if you watch in 1080p.  He does a zoomed in side-by-side image comparison in Lightroom, moving around to different parts of the frame.
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Re: 24-105L or 24-70L (F4 or F2.8)?
« Reply #38 on: October 13, 2013, 02:09:46 PM »