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Re: Is this true
« Reply #15 on: March 06, 2013, 01:29:51 PM »
Concerning OP's question and the conclusion the video makes, my experience (after owning 5D2, 6D, 5D3) is the 5D3 is noticably better than 5D2 in terms of noise and ISO performance as ISO increases. The difference in noise is as others have pointed out: less banding, less color noise, and a more "film like" noise pattern.

I can tell you different editors and NR softs will make for slightly different conclusions when comparing the two bodies. I use Capture One v7 here and when comparing in that, 5D3 is noticably better in terms of noise and ISO.

That said, 6D (which I had for a short while and sent back for a 5D3) was even a bit better at noise and high ISO than 5D3. If these were my primary concerns, I'd probably have stayed with 6D. But despite how good the 6D center AF point is in low light, the 5D3 AF system is in a different league altogether, as is build quality, and these swayed me to 5D3 and very happy with it.

And all of that said, I'd take the 6D over the 5D2.
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Re: Is this true
« Reply #15 on: March 06, 2013, 01:29:51 PM »

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Re: Is this true
« Reply #16 on: March 06, 2013, 01:35:19 PM »
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I don't trust anyone who doesn't know how to say "ISO."

Beyond that, this is just a lot of picking flypoop out of pepper for me.
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Re: Is this true
« Reply #17 on: March 06, 2013, 01:46:52 PM »
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I don't trust anyone who doesn't know how to say "ISO."

Beyond that, this is just a lot of picking flypoop out of pepper for me.

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« Reply #18 on: March 06, 2013, 01:53:28 PM »
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I don't trust anyone who doesn't know how to say "ISO."

Maybe it is some sort of weird dialect?  ;D
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« Reply #19 on: March 06, 2013, 02:18:54 PM »
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I don't trust anyone who doesn't know how to say "ISO."

Beyond that, this is just a lot of picking flypoop out of pepper for me.

+1

Hehehe...plus he looks like a mix between Anderson Cooper and Ellen Degeneres with that grey hair and jacket...difficult to take him seriously  ;D
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« Reply #20 on: March 06, 2013, 02:28:41 PM »
Hehehe...plus he looks like a mix between Anderson Cooper and Ellen Degeneres with that grey hair and jacket...difficult to take him seriously  ;D

LOL, note to self..."Never do an internet video. Ever."   :D

Entertainment value of video aside OP is just asking about what to buy next, which is fair enough.
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Re: Is this true
« Reply #21 on: March 06, 2013, 03:07:04 PM »
thank you for saying what REALLY needed to be said distant.star.  Every time I heard this guy say "eee-soh" I wanted to punch my monitor.
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« Reply #22 on: March 06, 2013, 06:38:30 PM »
Hehehe...plus he looks like a mix between Anderson Cooper and Ellen Degeneres with that grey hair and jacket...difficult to take him seriously  ;D
See that woman in the video?  That's his wife.  I'd say he is doing just fine.

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« Reply #23 on: March 06, 2013, 11:13:47 PM »
I just want to get this straight is a mark 2 really as good as he says ???
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Yes and no.
MK II is a great camera and I agree with most of what he said but I do no agree with him about noise and sharpness.
Regarding noise, MK III much better than his results ... maybe his needs to be sent to Canon to get it fixed.
11.45 he says he can't tell the difference between MK II & MK III ... he definitely needs to get his eyes or his checked ... it is very clear that MK III was sharper but for some reason he doesn't seem to be able to see it.


well NO.

the 5D MK3 is NOT sharper.
5D MK3 users can tell that themself as long as they want.. makes it not true. :)

all test i have read (and done myself) so far will tell you the the 5D MK2 is slightly sharper or equal (per pixel sharpness) then the 5D MK3.

and that´s not by looking at images it´s done via repeatable resolution tests.


if comparing raw files only and unedited, yes the mk2 is a little sharper
however the 5dmk3 raw files have more latitude in post than the mark 2 file
and iso 3200 and above the mk3 leaves the mk2 in its dust
I own and shoot with both cameras

the mk2 is still a good camera but the mk3 is better and thats without even getting into all the additional functions of the mk3 and better build, ergonomics etc
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Re: Is this true
« Reply #24 on: March 06, 2013, 11:14:08 PM »
Thanks for the replies everyone I am more confused than ever about what to get but atleast I know what I want now. The 6d though good always felt like a rebel the ergonomics and the build did not inspire confidence,I felt I could damage it just by tightening my grip .I really tried to love the 6d but as they say people differ after the 7d the 6d felt wrong (i love it but I wouldn't use it).I know what I want is impossible to get so I just want to get as close to it and not regret. I guess I want a camera with Mark3 ergonomics,6d sensor and autofocus at a 5d2 price but since its not possible I just gotta keep looking till I find it maybe what i want would be a 7d2

Anyway we just wish our 7d had a 6d sensor,it would be the best camera in the world for some of us
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Re: Is this true
« Reply #25 on: March 07, 2013, 05:36:17 AM »
Damn I will just rob a bank or something
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Re: Is this true
« Reply #26 on: March 07, 2013, 09:44:06 AM »
I just want to get this straight is a mark 2 really as good as he says ???
5D Mark II vs 5D Mark III comparison: Portraits, studio, landscapes, wildlife, night, and HDR review

Yes and no.
MK II is a great camera and I agree with most of what he said but I do no agree with him about noise and sharpness.
Regarding noise, MK III much better than his results ... maybe his needs to be sent to Canon to get it fixed.
11.45 he says he can't tell the difference between MK II & MK III ... he definitely needs to get his eyes or his checked ... it is very clear that MK III was sharper but for some reason he doesn't seem to be able to see it.


well NO.

the 5D MK3 is NOT sharper.
all test i have read so far will tell you the the 5D MK2 is slightly sharper then the 5D MK3.

and that´s not by looking at images it´s done via repeatable resolution tests.

I disagree ... by the way there was typo in my post, so I've edited it a bit.


well it´s you against the most reputable photographers on the internet then..

So now we've gone from one photographer to photographers ... well anyway, no one can stop your "reputable photographers" from making any amount of claims  ::)
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« Reply #27 on: March 07, 2013, 09:45:42 AM »
well it´s you against the most reputable photographers on the internet then..
ROTFL!

I don't think Rienzphotoz would ever consider this a reprimand...
Huh ???
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« Reply #28 on: March 07, 2013, 05:06:08 PM »
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I don't trust anyone who doesn't know how to say "ISO."

Between that, the fact that he's wearing a t-shirt with a sport coat, creepy calm, he's clearly light in the loafers.... yeah, a weirdo. he seems like a serial killer, and i wouldn't trust anything he says.

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« Reply #29 on: March 08, 2013, 01:59:45 AM »
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I don't trust anyone who doesn't know how to say "ISO."

Between that, the fact that he's wearing a t-shirt with a sport coat, creepy calm, he's clearly light in the loafers.... yeah, a weirdo. he seems like a serial killer, and i wouldn't trust anything he says.
That's a bit mean but didn't stop me from LOL ;D
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Re: Is this true
« Reply #29 on: March 08, 2013, 01:59:45 AM »