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Re: Helios 44-2 58mm f/2.0 M42
« Reply #15 on: December 20, 2013, 06:19:45 PM »
Had mine shipped from Ukraine yesterday, should arrive in two weeks. To my surprise I bought the Helios 44M instead of the 44-2.
Forgot I've wishlisted both lenses but when I actually purchased it the other day the 44-2 was gone and I've purchased the 44M straight-ahead forgetting they were different models.  :-\

44M costs a little bit over the 44-2,  but other than that I don't know the difference. Pics on the web doesn't show much difference tbh.

But what can you say guys? I won't be surprised if 44-2 ends up being voted.  ::)

44M is completely different in term of construction compare to the 44-2 58/2.  I have disassembled both of them.
44M is difficult to reassemble plus it works only on crop sensor dslr but doesn't fit 5D3 with an adapter - mirror problem, I will use the helicoid to DIY a tilt shift lensbaby clone. I found this DIY on the Youtube.

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Re: Helios 44-2 58mm f/2.0 M42
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Re: Helios 44-2 58mm f/2.0 M42
« Reply #16 on: December 20, 2013, 06:53:35 PM »
This, and I am embarrased to say, is the firs time I hear about these lenses. Can someone give some background?
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Re: Helios 44-2 58mm f/2.0 M42
« Reply #17 on: December 21, 2013, 08:42:58 AM »
This, and I am embarrased to say, is the firs time I hear about these lenses. Can someone give some background?

After WWII the Soviets took apart a Zeiss lens factory shipped it back to Russia.  It is basically a copy of the  Carl Zeiss Biotar optical formula.  The were one of the kit options on the Zenit cameras which were one of the most manufactured cameras in the world.  This make old Helios 44 lens a very common lens in Europe.  They are rather expensive in US but if you are willing to Ebay from Europe you can get one for a very reasonable price. 

I don't have one but do have a Helios 40-4f 1.8 that is not quite as good.
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Re: Helios 44-2 58mm f/2.0 M42
« Reply #18 on: December 21, 2013, 09:25:06 AM »
This, and I am embarrased to say, is the firs time I hear about these lenses. Can someone give some background?

After WWII the Soviets took apart a Zeiss lens factory shipped it back to Russia.  It is basically a copy of the  Carl Zeiss Biotar optical formula.  The were one of the kit options on the Zenit cameras which were one of the most manufactured cameras in the world.  This make old Helios 44 lens a very common lens in Europe.  They are rather expensive in US but if you are willing to Ebay from Europe you can get one for a very reasonable price. 

I don't have one but do have a Helios 40-4f 1.8 that is not quite as good.

Ok, thanks. I guess that they are manual focus only?
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Re: Helios 44-2 58mm f/2.0 M42
« Reply #19 on: December 21, 2013, 09:32:51 AM »
This, and I am embarrased to say, is the firs time I hear about these lenses. Can someone give some background?

After WWII the Soviets took apart a Zeiss lens factory shipped it back to Russia.  It is basically a copy of the  Carl Zeiss Biotar optical formula.  The were one of the kit options on the Zenit cameras which were one of the most manufactured cameras in the world.  This make old Helios 44 lens a very common lens in Europe.  They are rather expensive in US but if you are willing to Ebay from Europe you can get one for a very reasonable price. 

I don't have one but do have a Helios 40-4f 1.8 that is not quite as good.

Ok, thanks. I guess that they are manual focus only?

They are manual everything.  They have a very unique bokeh signature and great color.  Very sharp in the middle of the frame even wide open.  Useful both artistically wide open and stopped down because very sharp across the frame.
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Re: Helios 44-2 58mm f/2.0 M42
« Reply #20 on: December 21, 2013, 12:08:36 PM »
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Helios 44-2 58mm f/2.0 M42 with ring adapter
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Re: Helios 44-2 58mm f/2.0 M42
« Reply #21 on: December 22, 2013, 12:35:30 AM »

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44M is completely different in term of construction compare to the 44-2 58/2.  I have disassembled both of them.
44M is difficult to reassemble plus it works only on crop sensor dslr but doesn't fit 5D3 with an adapter - mirror problem, I will use the helicoid to DIY a tilt shift lensbaby clone. I found this DIY on the Youtube.

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some test shots of my new DIY Heliosbaby..... can't find the rubber tube yet, will look for one after the ice storm.

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Re: Helios 44-2 58mm f/2.0 M42
« Reply #22 on: December 22, 2013, 05:34:58 AM »
I have bought and installed in camera the film look style of Ive Lotus. I am not anywhere near to be able to reproduce the effect I see on the start of this thread (lens irrespective). Is there any settings I should use on the camera when using this setting, and is there special dialing on the flash? (ISO, WB.....)
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Re: Helios 44-2 58mm f/2.0 M42
« Reply #23 on: January 31, 2014, 09:47:01 PM »
Here's a wide open Helios 44-4 shot.  I find it has a bit less micro contrast than the 44-2, but also functions perfectly on a full frame body (no mirror hang).


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Hello Dustin,

I also have a 6D and am interested in the 44-4 version. What adapter to you use?

Thanks!
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Re: Helios 44-2 58mm f/2.0 M42
« Reply #24 on: January 31, 2014, 11:51:32 PM »
I got a 44M-4 about a month ago along with a fotodiox adapter for my 5d mkii.  It does have mirror hang so I put a very thing rubber band in between the adapter and the lens.  The lens now doesn't focus to infinity but it does allow for a little bit closer focusing distance and stopped all the way down you can get everything in focus.  Love the lens so far but haven't gotten to use it to much yet, but I picked mine up for $10 with a body at a thrift shop, friend ended up wanting the body and gave me more then what I payed for the whole thing, so far I have made a profit on this lens without even selling a print!  Below are some fun shots with the cats eye bokeh.

Beautiful lens flare



So sharp you can see my reflection in her eye!



Close focus



Even more bokeh

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Re: Helios 44-2 58mm f/2.0 M42
« Reply #25 on: February 03, 2014, 10:41:12 AM »
Here's a wide open Helios 44-4 shot.  I find it has a bit less micro contrast than the 44-2, but also functions perfectly on a full frame body (no mirror hang).


Out with the Old; In with the New by Thousand Word Images by Dustin Abbott, on Flickr

Hello Dustin,

I also have a 6D and am interested in the 44-4 version. What adapter to you use?

Thanks!
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I just use a cheap AF Confirm adapter off Ebay.  I paid no more than $10-12
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Re: Helios 44-2 58mm f/2.0 M42
« Reply #26 on: February 17, 2014, 12:15:21 AM »
Nice, I like the bottom shot the best...

I got a 44M-4 about a month ago along with a fotodiox adapter for my 5d mkii.  It does have mirror hang so I put a very thing rubber band in between the adapter and the lens.  The lens now doesn't focus to infinity but it does allow for a little bit closer focusing distance and stopped all the way down you can get everything in focus.  Love the lens so far but haven't gotten to use it to much yet, but I picked mine up for $10 with a body at a thrift shop, friend ended up wanting the body and gave me more then what I payed for the whole thing, so far I have made a profit on this lens without even selling a print!  Below are some fun shots with the cats eye bokeh.

Beautiful lens flare



So sharp you can see my reflection in her eye!



Close focus



Even more bokeh




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Re: Helios 44-2 58mm f/2.0 M42
« Reply #27 on: April 07, 2014, 01:38:28 AM »
I got a 44M-4 about a month ago along with a fotodiox adapter for my 5d mkii.  It does have mirror hang so I put a very thing rubber band in between the adapter and the lens.

The mirror hang depends on the size of the mirror, which varies a bit from model to model.  Apparently, the 44M-4 hangs right at infinity on some of the 5D series, but it doesn't hang on the 6D as far as I can tell.

The 44M, by contrast, hangs noticeably at or near infinity on the 6D, so I always make sure to use live view mode if I want to shoot near infinity (and make sure to focus away from infinity before I leave live view mode or let the camera doze).

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Re: Helios 44-2 58mm f/2.0 M42
« Reply #28 on: April 10, 2014, 10:33:36 AM »
I got a 44M-4 about a month ago along with a fotodiox adapter for my 5d mkii.  It does have mirror hang so I put a very thing rubber band in between the adapter and the lens.  The lens now doesn't focus to infinity but it does allow for a little bit closer focusing distance and stopped all the way down you can get everything in focus.  Love the lens so far but haven't gotten to use it to much yet, but I picked mine up for $10 with a body at a thrift shop, friend ended up wanting the body and gave me more then what I payed for the whole thing, so far I have made a profit on this lens without even selling a print!  Below are some fun shots with the cats eye bokeh.


Really fab shots.  Great examples of the unique character of the lens.  It is a special one to me!
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Re: Helios 44-2 58mm f/2.0 M42
« Reply #29 on: April 19, 2014, 09:50:19 AM »
Here's a new Helios shot from this week:

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