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16-35II vs 24-70II IQ?
« on: March 11, 2013, 06:07:23 PM »
Hello guys,

I will really appreciate your help telling me the IQ difference between EF 16-35 f2.8 II and the new 24-70 f2.8 II?

I plan to buy the 24-70 II these days and i'm really frustrated about the quality of the image from this lens.

The vignetting and distortion aren't a problem for me,
for me  important is the Resolution and Focus Accuracy.

Thank you in advance for your help.
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16-35II vs 24-70II IQ?
« on: March 11, 2013, 06:07:23 PM »

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Re: 16-35II vs 24-70II IQ?
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2013, 06:09:19 PM »
I do use it a lot wide open
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Re: 16-35II vs 24-70II IQ?
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2013, 06:10:55 PM »
Of course it's for a FF camera.
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Re: 16-35II vs 24-70II IQ?
« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2013, 06:13:42 PM »
I'm not quite happy with my 16.35 II at wide open.
It is good when focusing close to the object but on a distance
it falls down.
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Re: 16-35II vs 24-70II IQ?
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2013, 06:18:04 PM »
So my question is if there is an overall IQ and AF difference?
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Re: 16-35II vs 24-70II IQ?
« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2013, 07:06:54 PM »
Hello guys,

I will really appreciate your help telling me the IQ difference between EF 16-35 f2.8 II and the new 24-70 f2.8 II?

I plan to buy the 24-70 II these days and i'm really frustrated about the quality of the image from this lens.

The vignetting and distortion aren't a problem for me,
for me  important is the Resolution and Focus Accuracy.

Thank you in advance for your help.

I suspect that the 16-35 is better at 16 then the 24-70 - and the 24-70 beats the 16-35 at 70. Sorry, not trying to be a jerk here but I don't think that is a comparison that makes a lot of sense. The new 24-70 is obviously a stellar lens from what I hear and read. I find it weird though that it is made with a plastic barrel and wouldn't buy it just for that.

It seems some people complain about the 16-35's performance every now and then. I'm sure it's a great lens as well though and will deliver great results if you need that focal length. And if you are comparing only the overlap between the two I'd go for a prime such as the EF24 or maybe even better the Zeiss 21 Distagon. The latter would be my choice instead of the 16-35. For a 24-70 I would always prefer the older version over the new one even though it's not quite as sharp.
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Re: 16-35II vs 24-70II IQ?
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Re: 16-35II vs 24-70II IQ?
« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2013, 07:21:47 PM »
The 24-70 II is better from 24mm up, and no good wider than 24mm.  There's a place for both in a kit, and a reason both are part of the 'holy trinity' of zooms.
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Re: 16-35II vs 24-70II IQ?
« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2013, 07:35:11 PM »
ta-daaaaaaaaaaaaan!

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=114&Sample=0&FLI=0&API=0&LensComp=787&CameraComp=453&SampleComp=0&FLIComp=0&APIComp=0

Love that site. 

You actually linked the old Type I of the 16-35.  The OP was looking for the Type II, wasn't he?  The link you may want is therefore here:

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=412&Camera=453&Sample=0&FLI=0&API=0&LensComp=787&CameraComp=453&SampleComp=0&FLIComp=0&APIComp=0

And what the hey is up with the 16-35 II on that page?  The 16 and 35 ends are okay, but 24 is a disaster.  Balls of cotton are sharper than that -- see this one preset to 24mm on the 16-35 II:

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=412&Camera=453&Sample=0&FLI=2&API=0&LensComp=787&CameraComp=453&SampleComp=0&FLIComp=0&APIComp=0

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Re: 16-35II vs 24-70II IQ?
« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2013, 07:42:25 PM »
ta-daaaaaaaaaaaaan!

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=114&Sample=0&FLI=0&API=0&LensComp=787&CameraComp=453&SampleComp=0&FLIComp=0&APIComp=0

that link is the version 1 need to change to the mk2
and even the mk2 whats with the 24mm shot on the 16-35 its wayyyyyy off at 35mm there is not a lot of difference between the 2 I think the corners are where the 24-70 II start kicking arse
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Re: 16-35II vs 24-70II IQ?
« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2013, 07:51:21 PM »

It's a pity that Roger at LR hasn't run 16-35 data, because he has a fair amount of 24-70 II data to compare it against.

But Photozone has both, presumably one of each lens (pan down to the middle of each page):

16-35 II:  http://www.photozone.de/canon_eos_ff/435-canon_1635_28_5d?start=1

24-70 II:  http://www.photozone.de/canon_eos_ff/773-canon2470f28mk2ff?start=1

And you can see that fully open, the 24-70 II is slightly better in the center and markedly better in the corners.  For some reason, the 16-35 II does slightly better in the 'border' area in between the center and corners.

But, for an N of 1 lens each, I wouldn't put immense stock into this.  Roger from LR has found wide scatter in resolution for even the most recently released lenses.

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Re: 16-35II vs 24-70II IQ?
« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2013, 09:14:17 PM »
No contest really. Overall the new 24-70II outperforms the 16-35II in most respects, but you're not really comparing apples with apples.

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Re: 16-35II vs 24-70II IQ?
« Reply #12 on: March 12, 2013, 01:45:22 AM »
Thank you guys, i'm really conscious about comparing
two different focal range lenses and that's not comparable,

But i'ts about image IQ, it's to have an idea of what delivers
as image quality, to have an idea of what to expect comparing my 16-35 II

Thank again
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Re: 16-35II vs 24-70II IQ?
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Re: 16-35II vs 24-70II IQ?
« Reply #13 on: March 12, 2013, 02:29:18 AM »
Hello guys,

I will really appreciate your help telling me the IQ difference between EF 16-35 f2.8 II and the new 24-70 f2.8 II?

I plan to buy the 24-70 II these days and i'm really frustrated about the quality of the image from this lens.

The vignetting and distortion aren't a problem for me,
for me  important is the Resolution and Focus Accuracy.

Thank you in advance for your help.

I suspect that the 16-35 is better at 16 then the 24-70 - and the 24-70 beats the 16-35 at 70. Sorry, not trying to be a jerk here but I don't think that is a comparison that makes a lot of sense. The new 24-70 is obviously a stellar lens from what I hear and read. I find it weird though that it is made with a plastic barrel and wouldn't buy it just for that.

It seems some people complain about the 16-35's performance every now and then. I'm sure it's a great lens as well though and will deliver great results if you need that focal length. And if you are comparing only the overlap between the two I'd go for a prime such as the EF24 or maybe even better the Zeiss 21 Distagon. The latter would be my choice instead of the 16-35. For a 24-70 I would always prefer the older version over the new one even though it's not quite as sharp.

Each to their own. I've had both 24-70s. The new one is better in virtually every respect and more practical to use.

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Re: 16-35II vs 24-70II IQ?
« Reply #14 on: March 12, 2013, 03:36:33 AM »
Hello guys,

I will really appreciate your help telling me the IQ difference between EF 16-35 f2.8 II and the new 24-70 f2.8 II?

I plan to buy the 24-70 II these days and i'm really frustrated about the quality of the image from this lens.

The vignetting and distortion aren't a problem for me,
for me  important is the Resolution and Focus Accuracy.

Thank you in advance for your help.

The 24-70mm II is the best lens in your arsenal if you get a good copy, and very dissapointing if you get a bad copy.

The 16-35mm II is average, which is a nice way of saying that it's sub part in my oppinion.

So in other words:

Bad 24-70mm II < 16-35mm II < Good 24-70mm II

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Re: 16-35II vs 24-70II IQ?
« Reply #14 on: March 12, 2013, 03:36:33 AM »