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Re: The Next Rebel? [CR1]
« Reply #15 on: March 13, 2013, 01:44:57 PM »
One thing for sure, I can gaurentee that it will be named the Rebel 700D or T5i.  ;D
Guaranteed?  Not a replacement for the 1x00D line maybe?   8)
making use of an old sensor (replacing a 12MP, mind you) with lots of entry-level add-ins like wifi, touch screen, etc., may extend the business life of that sensor's production line.  They can essentially make that 'new' camera available now.  Then make the 70D & 700D available a few months later, maybe with the new sensor that may or may not be in the 7D2, which would have a few extra months to be perfected (or have its own also new sensor).

I agree though, if this super-entry-level, whatever it ends up being, has 6fps,  the 70D better have something worthwhile to be deemed 2-notches better.

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« Reply #16 on: March 13, 2013, 02:37:33 PM »
Other than the inferior UI that sounds just like a 60D clone.
Leaves room for 70D to be a 7D clone and 7D2 to be really good.
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« Reply #17 on: March 13, 2013, 03:19:31 PM »
I agree though, if this super-entry-level, whatever it ends up being, has 6fps,  the 70D better have something worthwhile to be deemed 2-notches better.

It will probably have 9 cross types, where does that leave the 6D  :o

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Re: The Next Rebel? [CR1]
« Reply #18 on: March 13, 2013, 04:41:36 PM »
I would be a 650d, with 1fps more, the same af (50d,60d one),same sensor... A good entry level camera. Troed the touch screen of the 650d today, nice for the beginners
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« Reply #19 on: March 13, 2013, 04:55:24 PM »

It will probably have 9 cross types, where does that leave the 6D  :o

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« Reply #20 on: March 13, 2013, 05:27:22 PM »
It will probably have 9 cross types, where does that leave the 6D  :o
As a full frame camera in a completely different world IQ wise...

Really, all this spec list does is say that the 70D has to be great, or have some new sensor, otherwise it'll flop. And that the 7d2 will really have to be a leap forward

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« Reply #21 on: March 13, 2013, 05:27:34 PM »

It will probably have 9 cross types, where does that leave the 6D  :o

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« Reply #22 on: March 13, 2013, 05:35:52 PM »
The more I think about a smaller DSLR and these specs, the more I like this.  This is looking like a smaller 50D with better specs.  I mean, if this has a metal body, this could be a GREAT travel camera.  WITH EF and EF-S lens compatibility without an adapter?  I'm really liking this.  Gosh, this could replace my beloved 50D.
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« Reply #23 on: March 13, 2013, 05:50:46 PM »
Erm, same image sensor since the 550D? Really Canon? That the best you can do? :(

That sensor was already lagging behind last gen's Sony 16mpx sensor in the Nikons' and NEXs, and now everyone's moving on to newer sensors...

As long as the Canon Faithful continue to buy last years technology why should they change ??? When sales drop there will be incentive to up-date the sensor.

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« Reply #24 on: March 13, 2013, 06:17:13 PM »

BUT, this camera probably is not meant for me, meaning that, as stated by other user, people would care more for sharing in FB than ISO performance.... well, that is call entry level.

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« Reply #25 on: March 13, 2013, 07:03:41 PM »
I've been thinking for a while that they'll go smaller for the rebel line.  Mainly since mass consumer appeal is such a big issue for the line & that market seems to want smaller-smaller-smaller.  I was thinking something a little smaller than the T3.  & honestly, I don't mind.  I use a rebel as my point & shoot & a little bit smaller would be fine with me.

I know most of you are sure this will be a T5i & you're probably right.  But what does everyone think the odds are that this will be a T5 (to replace the T3)?  Looking at the specs I agree that it doesn't seem likely.  But if they push the specs up to this level it would really compete against the D3200. 

Of course, that would have to push the T5i to what?  And then the 70D specs would demand a $1500 price tag.

Still, I guess we'll know more if the 70D is announced later this month & we have a clearer idea how Canon is slotting their new lines.  I'm just thinking that if they really do plan on pushing the 7D2 to be a 2000-2500 TOP SHELF crop sensor camera, there's a good bit of room left to expand into.  As long as Canon thinks there's money to had in that area.

Don't laugh, but if these specs are accurate I'll probably pick one up (T5i/T5/or whateva) once its on the refurbished list & goes on sale.  Or when it hits the CLP program.  I'm still happy shooting casual stuff with my T2i (you wouldn't believe how cheap it was) but it would be nice to have a better viewfinder, touch screen, etc. even if they use the same old sensor.  Again.
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Re: The Next Rebel? [CR1]
« Reply #26 on: March 13, 2013, 07:04:37 PM »
I have the same opinion about using the same sensor.... for me a basic upgrade for a body must be the ISO performance (that I guess will be the same).... Imagine if they would have kept the same sensor between the 5d and the 5d mark III... it would have been a disaster.

BUT, this camera probably is not meant for me, meaning that, as stated by other user, people would care more for sharing in FB than ISO performance.... well, that is call entry level.

Let's see about the sensor in the 70D and the 7D mark II (if they are finally coming).

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Re: The Next Rebel? [CR1]
« Reply #27 on: March 13, 2013, 07:37:33 PM »
I agree though, if this super-entry-level, whatever it ends up being, has 6fps,  the 70D better have something worthwhile to be deemed 2-notches better.

It will probably have 9 cross types, where does that leave the 6D  :o

the 650d has 9 cross type, just like the 40d,50d,60d...so what?
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Re: The Next Rebel? [CR1]
« Reply #28 on: March 13, 2013, 07:40:37 PM »
Erm, same image sensor since the 550D? Really Canon? That the best you can do? :(

That sensor was already lagging behind last gen's Sony 16mpx sensor in the Nikons' and NEXs, and now everyone's moving on to newer sensors...

If all you're looking at is the sensor, you should have switched to Nikon long ago. Canon's new sensor wont be available until release of the 7Dll (or whatever they call it). This new Rebel will be smaller, faster, better in low light and have the articulating touchscreen that many seem to like. The big question is what improvements have they made to the AF system. Sounds like an awesome entry level camera to me...

That's what Nikon users used to say before the D3 and its sisters came out... 2007, has it been that long!  ::)

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« Reply #29 on: March 13, 2013, 09:17:04 PM »
i wonder if we will see an 18-55 kit lens revamp that incorporates the better optics of the EF-M 18-55?
the EF-M kit lens is noticably better than its EF-S cousin
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« Reply #29 on: March 13, 2013, 09:17:04 PM »