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Re: Own a 5D3 - need a backup...
« Reply #15 on: March 15, 2013, 02:07:27 PM »
Get a 5Dc and Put a EG-S focusing screen in it. It will allow you to focus fast primes better. Also, the 5Dc is still has better IQ than any APS-C camera canon currently makes, and for cheap.

5Dc all the way.

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Re: Own a 5D3 - need a backup...
« Reply #15 on: March 15, 2013, 02:07:27 PM »

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Re: Own a 5D3 - need a backup...
« Reply #16 on: March 15, 2013, 02:16:35 PM »
Thanks everyone again.

@RLPhoto - Good point on the focusing screen.  It's one reason I almost returned my 5D3 - because of it's inability to replace focusing screens, I am effectively locked out of using Zeiss lenses ACCURATELY in the future.  I know there are going to be people here who disagree and believe they can "accurately" manual-focus a fast prime using 5D3's built-in one-shot focusing notification, but I've read enough to disagree.

I just got outbid on a mint 5Dc on eBay.   :(
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Re: Own a 5D3 - need a backup...
« Reply #17 on: March 15, 2013, 02:48:25 PM »
I have a 5D3 with 7D as backup, last year I was shooting with 5D2 as primary. The biggest frustration I had was that when selecting my keepers, I was finding that less than 1% were from the 7D. It's possible that this was a lens issue (I was using the EF-S 55-250 and have now upgraded to an EF 70-200 F4L IS). I am willing to try the 7D again to determine if it's an issue with the lens I've been using or do I simply prefer the FF IQ? The bf has been put on notice that he may be losing one of his 5D2s, lol.

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Re: Own a 5D3 - need a backup...
« Reply #18 on: March 15, 2013, 03:20:05 PM »
Get a 5Dc and Put a EG-S focusing screen in it. It will allow you to focus fast primes better. Also, the 5Dc is still has better IQ than any APS-C camera canon currently makes, and for cheap.

5Dc all the way.
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+1, in fact at ISO 100 the 5Dc is still as good as it gets..

(although the file transfer rates are as bad as it gets  ;D. )

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Re: Own a 5D3 - need a backup...
« Reply #19 on: March 15, 2013, 03:41:35 PM »
I use a 5D Mark 3 as my primary...was using 5D Classic...and love the new camera.

I have a 6D a back up...and second camera.

As a back up....it's fine...but a keep judging it to me 5D3 and it just isn't the same.

Miss the rocker switch alot.

I need to send the 5D3 in for replacement of the out shell ( see my other post ) and
I keep hesitating...not wanting to only have the 6D

I shoot for a living so it really does make a difference.

If you can wait...I'd see what the 7D Mark II looks like.

Good luck with your decision.
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Re: Own a 5D3 - need a backup...
« Reply #20 on: March 15, 2013, 03:51:46 PM »
The guy says he has a $700 limit and people are suggesting 6Ds, 7D2s, and jumping ship to a 800D.

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Re: Own a 5D3 - need a backup...
« Reply #21 on: March 15, 2013, 04:19:40 PM »
For $700, you can't go wrong with a 5DC. Like RL said, even an OLD full-frame body like the 5DC crushes a 50D and 7D in terms of ISO, color depth, contrast, and overall IQ.

In fact, Canon has made very little improvement in IQ to its current flagship crop body (7D) versus it's OLD crop bodies (10D/20D). According to DxO:

20D
Overall Score:      62
Color Depth:        21.9
Dynamic Range: 11 EV
ISO:                      721

7D
Overall Score:       66
Color Depth:         22
Dynamic Range:  11.7 EV
ISO:                       854


Now compare this to the 5DC:

Overall Score         71
Color Depth:          22.9
Dynamic Range:   11.1 EV
ISO:                        1368


Having shot with all three bodies before (20D, 7D, 5DC), DxO's ratings translate to field performance rather well. Interestingly, although the 7D has the edge over the 5DC in DR on paper, I find that the 5DC handles fine tonal gradations (especially grays and blacks) soooooo much better than the 7D that I don't care at all about it's .6 EV disadvantage. If you can put up with its horrific AF and antiquated screen, the 5DC still offers exceptional IQ. 
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Re: Own a 5D3 - need a backup...
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Re: Own a 5D3 - need a backup...
« Reply #22 on: March 15, 2013, 05:02:17 PM »
I realized I posted originally with $700 as my limit, but after losing two 5Dc opportunities on eBay - the good ones slipped away and I don't want a beat up and overly used camera, I saw that 5D2 refurbs were back in stock at Canon and pulled the trigger.  Crazy, I know.  But at least now I don't have to keep changing lenses on the 5D3 when I want to take a picture and the IQ will be practically the same.

Just wish Canon Direct didn't charge sales tax...
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Re: Own a 5D3 - need a backup...
« Reply #23 on: March 15, 2013, 06:22:13 PM »
I realized I posted originally with $700 as my limit, but after losing two 5Dc opportunities on eBay - the good ones slipped away and I don't want a beat up and overly used camera, I saw that 5D2 refurbs were back in stock at Canon and pulled the trigger.  Crazy, I know.  But at least now I don't have to keep changing lenses on the 5D3 when I want to take a picture and the IQ will be practically the same.

Just wish Canon Direct didn't charge sales tax...

These don't look too bad. Buy at your own discretion.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Canon-EOS-5D-12-8-Megapixel-Camera-Body-Great-Camera-11701-/190811715422?pt=Digital_Cameras&hash=item2c6d43b75e

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Canon-EOS-5D-12-8-MP-Digital-SLR-Body-w-BG-E4-Grip-/230944590575?pt=Digital_Cameras&hash=item35c55ecaef

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Canon-EOS-5D-12-8-MP-Digital-SLR-Camera-Body-Only-with-Extras-/390557381347?pt=Digital_Cameras&hash=item5aef08b2e3

The third one looks the best to me.


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Re: Own a 5D3 - need a backup...
« Reply #24 on: March 15, 2013, 06:46:39 PM »
Canon Loyalty Program would have saved you some dough as well on a 5D2.

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Re: Own a 5D3 - need a backup...
« Reply #25 on: March 16, 2013, 10:24:16 AM »
I realized I posted originally with $700 as my limit, but after losing two 5Dc opportunities on eBay - the good ones slipped away and I don't want a beat up and overly used camera, I saw that 5D2 refurbs were back in stock at Canon and pulled the trigger.  Crazy, I know.  But at least now I don't have to keep changing lenses on the 5D3 when I want to take a picture and the IQ will be practically the same.

Just wish Canon Direct didn't charge sales tax...

You'll be very happy with the 5D2.  5D3/5D2 combo makes a lot of sense to me.  Just put one lens on the 5D3 and the other on the 5D2 and they are basically the same systems, so then just shoot away.
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Re: Own a 5D3 - need a backup...
« Reply #26 on: March 16, 2013, 09:58:54 PM »
Hydrogen, what lenses will you put on your back up camera?
You can use 24-70 f2.8 on 5D3 and 85 f1,2 on 5Dc. It will be good and quality of pictures will not differ much I think.

And what about rent? I take lenses for rent and light sometimes besides fly-cam and scater-dolly.
It's very expensive to have everything for own.
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Re: Own a 5D3 - need a backup...
« Reply #27 on: March 16, 2013, 10:22:23 PM »
Hydrogen, what lenses will you put on your back up camera?
You can use 24-70 f2.8 on 5D3 and 85 f1,2 on 5Dc. It will be good and quality of pictures will not differ much I think.

And what about rent? I take lenses for rent and light sometimes besides fly-cam and scater-dolly.
It's very expensive to have everything for own.

Since he already bought a 5D2, the point is moot.
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Re: Own a 5D3 - need a backup...
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Re: Own a 5D3 - need a backup...
« Reply #28 on: March 17, 2013, 12:33:06 AM »
Skip the 50D, get a 40D if you aren't needing a current body.. Regardless of the spec sheets the 50D cannot match its older sibling. The micro adjustment for different lenses is nice to have in the 50D, but honestly I have not put a lens on my 40D that has needed any adjustment.
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Re: Own a 5D3 - need a backup...
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