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Re: EOS 100D Coming? [CR1]
« Reply #15 on: March 16, 2013, 04:03:29 PM »
There was an interview with a Canon exec that was reported, both here and elseware, about a year or so ago. He said that Canon did not have to go mirrorless to get a small camera.

Speculation then was that Canon would make a Digital EOS IX. The EOS IX was a film APS-C camera http://www.canon.com/camera-museum/camera/film/data/1996-2000/1996_eos-ix-e.html?lang=us&categ=crn&page=1996-2000 Check-it-out. A small/light camera with an EF Mount. The size and weight was 132 x 80 x 59 mm, 485 g (with battery). The Panasonic Micro 4/3 GH3 is 133 x 93 x 82 mm, 550 g (with battery). The Panasonic GH3 sells for $1.300.00 ... would I pay that for a Digital EOS IX ??? Of course I would :)  :)

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Re: EOS 100D Coming? [CR1]
« Reply #15 on: March 16, 2013, 04:03:29 PM »

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« Reply #16 on: March 16, 2013, 04:07:11 PM »
Could this be a EOS M replacement?

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Re: EOS 100D Coming? [CR1]
« Reply #17 on: March 16, 2013, 04:09:24 PM »
There was an interview with a Canon exec that was reported, both here and elseware, about a year or so ago. He said that Canon did not have to go mirrorless to get a small camera.

Speculation then was that Canon would make a Digital EOS IX. The EOS IX was a film APS-C camera http://www.canon.com/camera-museum/camera/film/data/1996-2000/1996_eos-ix-e.html?lang=us&categ=crn&page=1996-2000 Check-it-out. A small/light camera with an EF Mount. The size and weight was 132 x 80 x 59 mm, 485 g (with battery). The Panasonic Micro 4/3 GH3 is 133 x 93 x 82 mm, 550 g (with battery). The Panasonic GH3 sells for $1.300.00 ... would I pay that for a Digital EOS IX ??? Of course I would :)  :)

I think the EOS M was supposed to fill that slot, but was seriously let down by its pokey AF. They get that fixed, and toss in the real EF/EF-S adapter, and I'd love it. (I still have my EOS IX ;) )

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Re: EOS 100D Coming? [CR1]
« Reply #18 on: March 16, 2013, 05:16:05 PM »

I think the EOS M was supposed to fill that slot, but was seriously let down by its pokey AF. They get that fixed, and toss in the real EF/EF-S adapter, and I'd love it. (I still have my EOS IX ;) )

The problem is that the Canon exec specifically said "will not be mirrorless." The EOS M is a mirrorless camera. But Canon execs have lied in the past ;)

So what do you think this new small and expensive DSLR will be if it isn't an EOS IX-D ???

Maybe the Canon Rumors Guy will remember the interview and post a link to it.

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Re: EOS 100D Coming? [CR1]
« Reply #19 on: March 16, 2013, 06:04:55 PM »
It was also mentioned that the price of the EOS 100D was “a bit expensive”.

Compaired to what? and EOS M or a Powershot or a 1DX  :o  ;D
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Probably "a bit expensive" for what you get ...

lol.. we are canon user, we expect that by now.....
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Re: EOS 100D Coming? [CR1]
« Reply #20 on: March 16, 2013, 08:20:09 PM »
It was also mentioned that the price of the EOS 100D was “a bit expensive”.

Compaired to what? and EOS M or a Powershot or a 1DX  :o  ;D

Naaa, pinch of salt must be a slow weekend at rumour towers  ::)

Don't worry it's less than the 1DX. (but more than the 5D3 and that is where the "a bit expensive" comes in, still miniaturization and all has always cost, so how much can you really complain, in a few years they'll get it down to xxD or maybe even Rebel prices)

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« Reply #21 on: March 16, 2013, 08:53:45 PM »
If this is true, then that's too bad for the long awaited 70D but I still think Canon is trying to reorganize their model naming and pricing.

700D becomes - 100D (at $1200 body only)
70D becomes - 10D Mark II (at $1500 body)
6D (at $2000)
7D Mark II (at $2500)
5D Mark III (at $3000)
ect

I assume Canon needed something to compare with Nikon's D7100 in the $1200 range which the Rebel 650D cannot and rather then lowering the potential price of their 70D they decided to update the Rebel line instead, but this would obviously upset some of those brand new 650D(T4i) owners so instead they are introducing as a new model line.

But I am excited to see what it is (if it's true).  Canon has already added a lot of good features to the last Rebel 650D everything except update the sensor.  I assume the same with this model but what more can they add?  This may be a relatively low priced very feature rich camera.  To compete with the new Nikon's they might remove the low pass filter, add clean HDMI out, better video codecs, or even try a 3rd party 24mp sensor like the Sony or Toshiba that have appeared in Nikon DSLRs.

Either way, I would welcome a lightweight, low priced feature rich camera with an EF mount that could potentially replace a 60D and 650D alike.

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Re: EOS 100D Coming? [CR1]
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« Reply #22 on: March 16, 2013, 10:17:52 PM »
yeah!!!! a diminutive, even more entry level DSLR that is a bit expensive! Wow, Canon really knows how to make people happy these days!
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Re: EOS 100D Coming? [CR1]
« Reply #23 on: March 16, 2013, 11:44:47 PM »
yeah!!!! a diminutive, even more entry level DSLR that is a bit expensive! Wow, Canon really knows how to make people happy these days!

What makes you think that this sligghtly expensive camera will be entry level ??? They would not have mentioned slightly expensive if this camera didn't cost more thab the present Rebel line. Maybe even more expensive than the POS 60D ;)

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« Reply #24 on: March 17, 2013, 12:34:13 AM »

To compete with the new Nikon's they might remove the low pass filter, add clean HDMI out, better video codecs, or even try a 3rd party 24mp sensor like the Sony or Toshiba that have appeared in Nikon DSLRs.


I seriously doubt Canon will use a 3rd party sensor. Although some people may like the idea, I wouldn't want them to do that either. 


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Re: EOS 100D Coming? [CR1]
« Reply #25 on: March 17, 2013, 09:29:29 AM »
I really think Canon has too many 18mp sensor on stock and it's just finding a way to use them and the Eos M isn't selling enough; so they are trying with a different body around the same sensor.
7d, 550d, 60d, 600D, 650D and eosM. Now 100D.. 7 cameras in 4 years with the same sensor and unfortunately for us canon lovers it makes sense. Canon is doing an internal scale economy, exactly what Sony is doing selling sensors to the other brands. I said Unfortunately for us because the replacements are slower then Sony.
Because I see it more an economical and not technical problem I am pretty sure the next generation will be greater then the competition especially at the beginning. It has to be if they wanna use it till 2016!
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Re: EOS 100D Coming? [CR1]
« Reply #26 on: March 17, 2013, 11:02:32 AM »
I think if canon makes this rebel 100D the size of my Rebel 2000 Film camera, It'd be a better alternative to a Mirror-less camera.

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Re: EOS 100D Coming? [CR1]
« Reply #27 on: March 17, 2013, 12:27:30 PM »
I could use a good backup camera to my 5Dii. But if it's expensive, it better have comparable high ISO and great video with manual controls.

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« Reply #28 on: March 17, 2013, 09:45:22 PM »
I really think Canon has too many 18mp sensor on stock and it's just finding a way to use them and the Eos M isn't selling enough; so they are trying with a different body around the same sensor.
7d, 550d, 60d, 600D, 650D and eosM. Now 100D.. 7 cameras in 4 years with the same sensor and unfortunately for us canon lovers it makes sense. Canon is doing an internal scale economy, exactly what Sony is doing selling sensors to the other brands. I said Unfortunately for us because the replacements are slower then Sony.
Because I see it more an economical and not technical problem I am pretty sure the next generation will be greater then the competition especially at the beginning. It has to be if they wanna use it till 2016!
 :)

Good point but don't forget Sony is still using the same 16mp sensor technology in most of their own models as well. (Nex-5n, Nex-C3, Nex-5r, Nex-F3 Nex-6, Nex-3n, A55, A35, A57, A580, Nex-VG20, Nex-EA50 and Nex-VG30) Not to mention all the Nikon and Pentax cameras using it.

Although, like Canon, their most recent iterations are technically different with an integrated phase detect sensor.

Canon is not just competing with Nikon, in fact they said they were more concerned with Fuji and Sony as a sensor manufacturer.  I'm sure Canon is doing this for financial reasons; they put a lot of time and money into making that 18mp sensor so they're trying to get their money back and make enough of a profit to fund a new design that's competitive with the future mainstream sensors.  So they need to save/make enough money to compete with Sony's new sensor tech since Sony seems to be doing the best at optimizing funding.

I hope Canon can make a competitive sensor because I find their cameras the most enjoyable to use.

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Re: EOS 100D Coming? [CR1]
« Reply #29 on: March 17, 2013, 10:20:18 PM »
Could this be a EOS M replacement?

EOS M seems to have hit a snag and isn't moving too well...some bad press with AF as well...but somehow I don't think this is the replacement. This is just canon flooding the market with several APS-C options...just as both Canon and Nikon have done with their Kazillion Point-and-shoot camera's.

Saturate the market... buck shot approach instead of the silver bullet approach.
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« Reply #29 on: March 17, 2013, 10:20:18 PM »