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Should I buy the 60D or wait for the 70D?
« on: March 17, 2013, 07:08:44 AM »
Hey, I'm going to buy a DSLR and don't know which one I should get. The 60D has too much noise for me, because I will take photos in 'less light situations'. One other bad thing is the old sensor.. but the 60D is cheaper than others. I want a camera in a average price level about 1000€. Nevertheless, should I buy the Canon 60D or should I wait? Please help me.

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Should I buy the 60D or wait for the 70D?
« on: March 17, 2013, 07:08:44 AM »

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Re: Should I buy the 60D or wait for the 70D?
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2013, 07:16:02 AM »
If the '60D has too much noise' then you need a FF camera, or you live with the noise, or you add flash.  If 'low light' is your main need and £1000 is your budget, consider a used 5DII.
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Re: Should I buy the 60D or wait for the 70D?
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2013, 08:00:33 AM »
Thanks for the quick answer!  :)

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Re: Should I buy the 60D or wait for the 70D?
« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2013, 08:10:44 AM »
I don't know exactly how fast "now" is for you, but with the Canon press event happening next Friday you'd be crazy to buy a 60D now unless you find one for an absolutely crazy price.

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Re: Should I buy the 60D or wait for the 70D?
« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2013, 08:56:43 AM »
If a 70D is announced I don't see it coming until summer, and by then especially the 60D will be dirt cheap, they're going under $500 used in decent condition here. I went with a 5DII though, noise and overall performance, and the fact that it's FF, though really down to the lack of AFMA on the 60D and that's what essentially killed the camera for me and many others. Might as well wait for the 70D though, can turn out to be just right, or by then the 6D even could have a slight lower price and the 70D would actually be rather expensive anyways... well I didn't answer your question I just made it difficult :P

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Re: Should I buy the 60D or wait for the 70D?
« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2013, 09:26:43 AM »
I don't see the low light performance of the 70D being THAT much better than the 60D.  And I agree with what others say... to really see a difference, you have to go full frame.  5D mkii body you can find for around $1400 new, probably a bit cheaper used.  I've seen a a 60D with a 18-135 lens for $900 recently (maybe less), which means around $600 for the body after you sell the lens.  A new 70D will probably be around $1300 new with an 18-135 (which is roughly what the 60D cost at launch and shortly thereafter).  So about $1000 for the 70D body.

If I were to talk about value, I think the 5D mkii is the best value between the three, the 60D being the next best, and finally 70D simply because it will be over priced initially.

As for AFMA, you can send in the camera and lenses to Canon and they will AMFA the body to your lenses.  So there is that option. 
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Re: Should I buy the 60D or wait for the 70D?
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2013, 10:02:22 AM »
Thanks Nishi Drew for making my decision more difficult.  :o

The 5D MKII is too expensive for me. When it's cheaper, I will get one.
I think I'll wait a few weeks and save more money. Maybe it will be enough to buy a FF, otherwise I will buy a 70D (if it comes).

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Re: Should I buy the 60D or wait for the 70D?
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Re: Should I buy the 60D or wait for the 70D?
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2013, 10:04:22 AM »
I shoot with a 60D. I like it. I would not buy one now. That's blunt, so let me explain.

First off, if you are after image quality, the T4i is SLIGHTLY better. The 7D is available at really good prices and has a better af system. And most important, everyone believes we are about to see the announcement of a newer version of the canon crop frames, and this should cause a drop in prices of older models.

If low light is your concern, and you are on a budget, take a peek at the 5D2. I use one alongside my 60D and the low light performance has to be two or three stops better.... Go to a store and try them out side by side.... If your biggest concern is low light shooting than FF is the way to go. You can probably get a 5D2 for about what a 70D will cost you
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Re: Should I buy the 60D or wait for the 70D?
« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2013, 10:54:40 AM »
+1...with most posters, I doudt 60D replacement will solve "noise" issue.

6D or 5D II will help alot.
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Re: Should I buy the 60D or wait for the 70D?
« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2013, 12:26:04 PM »
Thanks Nishi Drew for making my decision more difficult.  :o

The 5D MKII is too expensive for me. When it's cheaper, I will get one.
I think I'll wait a few weeks and save more money. Maybe it will be enough to buy a FF, otherwise I will buy a 70D (if it comes).

I went from a Canon XS to a 60D and I will be upgrading to a 5d mkiii later this year.  As you go along the rebel line... there are marginal improvements, but none that really warrant the incredible price jump.  and while the 5d mkii is out of your price range, that is definitely what you should be targeting because anything less won't be worth the price. 
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Re: Should I buy the 60D or wait for the 70D?
« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2013, 02:05:20 PM »
Don't go for a FF unless you are a serious shooter. I think you should stick to  60D/T4i if you don't spend much time on photography.
The T4i has higher ISO range but the difference is very little.
And about the 70D, it will be very pricey for first few months. At that price or less you will easily get a used 5D markII.
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Re: Should I buy the 60D or wait for the 70D?
« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2013, 02:25:37 PM »
Don't go for a FF unless you are a serious shooter. I think you should stick to  60D/T4i if you don't spend much time on photography.
The T4i has higher ISO range but the difference is very little.
And about the 70D, it will be very pricey for first few months. At that price or less you will easily get a used 5D markII.

I'm not serious shooter, just a dad with 2 kids. I shoot with 5D III and my little P&S is RX1.

Higher ISO range doesn't mean cleaner image in lower light. It's all about sensor size - you will have more water when carry bigger bucket.
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Re: Should I buy the 60D or wait for the 70D?
« Reply #12 on: March 18, 2013, 01:11:15 PM »

I'm not serious shooter, just a dad with 2 kids. I shoot with 5D III and my little P&S is RX1.

I guess that comes down to semantics and what is a "serious shooter".  But you have close to 1400 posts on a forum discussing camera equipment and according to your sig you've invested a good $10k in equipment.  I'd argue that's serious on one level or another.

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Re: Should I buy the 60D or wait for the 70D?
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Re: Should I buy the 60D or wait for the 70D?
« Reply #13 on: March 18, 2013, 02:04:39 PM »
I'd much rather get the 50D ...atleast you get AFMA.
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Re: Should I buy the 60D or wait for the 70D?
« Reply #14 on: March 18, 2013, 02:28:36 PM »
Have you considered other brands? Canon's sensor's aren't as good as their competitors (though their cameras are otherwise very good, and they have the best range of lenses).

I own a Canon 60D, but if was looking to purchase a crop DSLR, I would certainly be looking at other brands - the Nikon 5200 and 7100 look very good. That said, I agree that waiting for the upcoming Canon announcement seems sensible.

Full Frame is really the way to get lower noise - a second hand or refurbished full frame may meet your budget and maybe cheaper than a new 70D, if and when it comes out.

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Re: Should I buy the 60D or wait for the 70D?
« Reply #14 on: March 18, 2013, 02:28:36 PM »