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Re: Should I buy the 60D or wait for the 70D?
« Reply #15 on: March 18, 2013, 02:54:49 PM »

I'm not serious shooter, just a dad with 2 kids. I shoot with 5D III and my little P&S is RX1.

I guess that comes down to semantics and what is a "serious shooter".  But you have close to 1400 posts on a forum discussing camera equipment and according to your sig you've invested a good $10k in equipment.  I'd argue that's serious on one level or another.

I started with 40D + 17-55 f2.8 IS. Just for the record, I didn't buy all my gear at once - one by one esp. when Canon offers decent rebates etc.

Also, I usually sell the gear I don't need and use that money for newer gear. Did I spent $10K into camera gear? yes and no. I prefer to spend +/- $1K to upgrade to latest gear. It's so difficult to see my CC get charged $10 -15K at once, besides, my wife would kill me for that :P
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Re: Should I buy the 60D or wait for the 70D?
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Re: Should I buy the 60D or wait for the 70D?
« Reply #16 on: March 19, 2013, 11:56:04 AM »

I'm not serious shooter, just a dad with 2 kids. I shoot with 5D III and my little P&S is RX1.

I guess that comes down to semantics and what is a "serious shooter".  But you have close to 1400 posts on a forum discussing camera equipment and according to your sig you've invested a good $10k in equipment.  I'd argue that's serious on one level or another.

I started with 40D + 17-55 f2.8 IS. Just for the record, I didn't buy all my gear at once - one by one esp. when Canon offers decent rebates etc.

Also, I usually sell the gear I don't need and use that money for newer gear. Did I spent $10K into camera gear? yes and no. I prefer to spend +/- $1K to upgrade to latest gear. It's so difficult to see my CC get charged $10 -15K at once, besides, my wife would kill me for that :P

So defensive.  I really wasn't being accusatory on the cost of your kit, actually quite the opposite.  You’ve got a top of the line kit, and by the looks of it spend a fair amount of time on here discussing the ins and outs of your camera and camera manufacturer.  And now as you said, have spent years building up your kit, and presumably your knowledge.  I was just saying that I consider that to be ‘serious’…  which is a completely subjective term, but considering that it seems the vast majority of people with dSLRs these days never even take it off the green square function, I think it’s a fair designation.

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Re: Should I buy the 60D or wait for the 70D?
« Reply #17 on: March 20, 2013, 12:09:27 AM »
Don't go for a FF unless you are a serious shooter. I think you should stick to  60D/T4i if you don't spend much time on photography.
The T4i has higher ISO range but the difference is very little.
And about the 70D, it will be very pricey for first few months. At that price or less you will easily get a used 5D markII.

I'm not serious shooter, just a dad with 2 kids. I shoot with 5D III and my little P&S is RX1.

Higher ISO range doesn't mean cleaner image in lower light. It's all about sensor size - you will have more water when carry bigger bucket.

It was my personal opinion to the person who posted the question..I know a FF performs lot better in low light situation but he has clearly mentioned his budget.

So I think a speedlite along with a crop body would be another option for him.
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Re: Should I buy the 60D or wait for the 70D?
« Reply #18 on: March 20, 2013, 01:26:32 AM »
To me, you have answered your own question.  The 60D does not fit your low light requirements.  Go on the cheap now, hate your pics later, then spend to upgrade.  Perhaps you need to either increase your budget, buy second hand later, or settle.

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Re: Should I buy the 60D or wait for the 70D?
« Reply #19 on: March 20, 2013, 01:26:43 AM »
Based on your budget and need, i would say get a used 5D2. Even if 70D is out tomorrow, I doubt it's ISO performance will be significantly better than 60D or 5D2 for that matter. If you feel adding and using a flash is not always going to be possible in most of your situations then a used 5D2 looks to me a better choice overall. If you feel flash is your thing then pair it with your 60D or 70D (whenever it comes out). To me, a FF gives me the flexibility to push my ISO in dark conditions and its not always possible to carry a flash around. If possible pair your body with a fast prime.

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Re: Should I buy the 60D or wait for the 70D?
« Reply #20 on: March 20, 2013, 04:32:29 AM »
Don't go for a FF unless you are a serious shooter. I think you should stick to  60D/T4i if you don't spend much time on photography.
The T4i has higher ISO range but the difference is very little.
And about the 70D, it will be very pricey for first few months. At that price or less you will easily get a used 5D markII.

I'm not serious shooter, just a dad with 2 kids. I shoot with 5D III and my little P&S is RX1.

Higher ISO range doesn't mean cleaner image in lower light. It's all about sensor size - you will have more water when carry bigger bucket.

I know people who have txi (what ever number you want 1-4) who are serious shooter bc they are always taking pictures. Others is 5D mark ii and iii who aren't they just need to have top of the line stuff.

If this is your first DSLR, I would say just pick up a used 60D, see if you will use one. I know plenty of people who got a dslr and like the P&S better bc they take it places.
You can always sell your 60D again and probably only lose $50-100 in a few months.

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Re: Should I buy the 60D or wait for the 70D?
« Reply #21 on: March 20, 2013, 08:00:25 PM »
Don't go for a FF unless you are a serious shooter. I think you should stick to  60D/T4i if you don't spend much time on photography.
The T4i has higher ISO range but the difference is very little.
And about the 70D, it will be very pricey for first few months. At that price or less you will easily get a used 5D markII.

I'm not serious shooter, just a dad with 2 kids. I shoot with 5D III and my little P&S is RX1.

Higher ISO range doesn't mean cleaner image in lower light. It's all about sensor size - you will have more water when carry bigger bucket.

I know people who have txi (what ever number you want 1-4) who are serious shooter bc they are always taking pictures. Others is 5D mark ii and iii who aren't they just need to have top of the line stuff.
If this is your first DSLR, I would say just pick up a used 60D, see if you will use one. I know plenty of people who got a dslr and like the P&S better bc they take it places.
You can always sell your 60D again and probably only lose $50-100 in a few months.

From Jan 1st to March 20th 2013....over 7K photos were taken with my 5D III and over 2K with my Sony RX1. Can you define the number of photos that txi owners shoot with their cameras? Since you mentioned "I know people who have txi (what ever number you want 1-4) who are serious shooter bc they are always taking pictures"
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Re: Should I buy the 60D or wait for the 70D?
« Reply #21 on: March 20, 2013, 08:00:25 PM »

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Re: Should I buy the 60D or wait for the 70D?
« Reply #22 on: March 23, 2013, 09:43:27 PM »
Don't go for a FF unless you are a serious shooter. I think you should stick to  60D/T4i if you don't spend much time on photography.
The T4i has higher ISO range but the difference is very little.
And about the 70D, it will be very pricey for first few months. At that price or less you will easily get a used 5D markII.

I'm not serious shooter, just a dad with 2 kids. I shoot with 5D III and my little P&S is RX1.

Higher ISO range doesn't mean cleaner image in lower light. It's all about sensor size - you will have more water when carry bigger bucket.

I know people who have txi (what ever number you want 1-4) who are serious shooter bc they are always taking pictures. Others is 5D mark ii and iii who aren't they just need to have top of the line stuff.
If this is your first DSLR, I would say just pick up a used 60D, see if you will use one. I know plenty of people who got a dslr and like the P&S better bc they take it places.
You can always sell your 60D again and probably only lose $50-100 in a few months.

From Jan 1st to March 20th 2013....over 7K photos were taken with my 5D III and over 2K with my Sony RX1. Can you define the number of photos that txi owners shoot with their cameras? Since you mentioned "I know people who have txi (what ever number you want 1-4) who are serious shooter bc they are always taking pictures"

Don't take offense.  Some people make assumptions and they don't realize how ignorant they sound.  I took 500 pictures of people running today and the worst part is that I now have to look through 500 pictures of people running.  It doesn't matter what body I'm using or how much disposable income I have... or how I got that disposable income. 

Having said that, I have slowly built up my funds, lenses, and bodies via upgrades.  I started with an XS, kit lens, and a 75-300... and that was 4 years ago... or so... and in a few months I'll have a 5d mkiii, a 24-105L, a 100mm f/2.8L, a fisheye lens, a 50mm f/1.4, a 135mm f/2L, and a 70-200mm f/2.8L IS mkii (if I'm lucky enough to find a deal on the last one). 

I'm not a pro, and most people don't want to hear the long story of upgrade and buying and selling equipment and making $20 here and $30 there...
Upgrade  path.->means the former was sold for the latter.

XS->60D->5d Mkiii:18-55->24-105L:75-300->55-250->70-300->70-200 f4L USM->70-200 f/2.8L USM->70-200 f/2.8L IS Mkii:50 f/1.8->50 f/1.4->100 f/2.8L->85mm f/1.8 USM->135L -> 8mm ->100L

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Re: Should I buy the 60D or wait for the 70D?
« Reply #23 on: March 23, 2013, 09:47:00 PM »
Don't go for a FF unless you are a serious shooter. I think you should stick to  60D/T4i if you don't spend much time on photography.
The T4i has higher ISO range but the difference is very little.
And about the 70D, it will be very pricey for first few months. At that price or less you will easily get a used 5D markII.

I'm not serious shooter, just a dad with 2 kids. I shoot with 5D III and my little P&S is RX1.

Higher ISO range doesn't mean cleaner image in lower light. It's all about sensor size - you will have more water when carry bigger bucket.

I know people who have txi (what ever number you want 1-4) who are serious shooter bc they are always taking pictures. Others is 5D mark ii and iii who aren't they just need to have top of the line stuff.

If this is your first DSLR, I would say just pick up a used 60D, see if you will use one. I know plenty of people who got a dslr and like the P&S better bc they take it places.
You can always sell your 60D again and probably only lose $50-100 in a few months.

Agreed... the worst camera is the one that isn't used.  But even more important than that... learn how to use the thing.  Some people (if not most) buy a camera and assume automatic will get better results than they can get... which is a crock.  Get a book... heck get a book now and learn depth of field, lighting and composition...
Upgrade  path.->means the former was sold for the latter.

XS->60D->5d Mkiii:18-55->24-105L:75-300->55-250->70-300->70-200 f4L USM->70-200 f/2.8L USM->70-200 f/2.8L IS Mkii:50 f/1.8->50 f/1.4->100 f/2.8L->85mm f/1.8 USM->135L -> 8mm ->100L

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Re: Should I buy the 60D or wait for the 70D?
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