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Re: $2,800.00 budget
« Reply #15 on: March 20, 2013, 07:13:10 AM »
Hi all.

I'm in a quite similar situation. Budget 3000$. Looking for an upgrade to FF, options are: 6D + some glass or 5Dmk3 body only.
I have at the moment 7D, 24-105 F4.0L, 50 F1.4, 28 F1.8, 100 F2.8 macro and Tami 70-200 F2.8 plus APS-C stuff like Sigma 8-16 F4.5-5.6, Tokina 12-24 F4, Samyang fish 8 F3.5. Flash 430EX II plus some studio toys.

I've been shooting mostly for myself but now I'm trying to get some jobs around and it looks there is more coming on the horizon. At the moment I do weddings, events, promo, indoor and outdoor portraits some landscape for prints. While I would be quite happy with 6D for landscape, portrait and promo products shoots then anything else I do is screaming for 5Dmk3  ;)

Guys give me please a wise advice as after a weeks of reading opinions about 6D and 5Dmk3 still can't make a decision.

Thanks
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Re: $2,800.00 budget
« Reply #15 on: March 20, 2013, 07:13:10 AM »

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Re: $2,800.00 budget
« Reply #16 on: March 20, 2013, 07:58:41 AM »
Before I bought my first DSLR, I've read many beginners guides, reviews and personal opinions. However, now I know that the most popular advices like "buy the lens collection first, camera doesn't matter" or "you don't need FF to start with" are not working for everyone, not for me. So, what I've learned is :
I don't need to cover 8-800mm focal range, like many others do. For me, 3-4 primes is enough.
I do regret that I didn't start with a FF camera. Now I'd choose 5D3+50/1.4 over 7D+24-70L'II.
Zooms for work, primes for pleasure! No more zoom lenses for me :)
If I don't know what I want, then I don't need it :D

Only you can decide whether you need that kit lens or not.
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Re: $2,800.00 budget
« Reply #17 on: March 20, 2013, 12:33:17 PM »
if you have no use for video, go with a used 1ds mkiii.

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Re: $2,800.00 budget
« Reply #18 on: March 20, 2013, 01:55:06 PM »
Hi all.

I'm in a quite similar situation. Budget 3000$. Looking for an upgrade to FF, options are: 6D + some glass or 5Dmk3 body only.
I have at the moment 7D, 24-105 F4.0L, 50 F1.4, 28 F1.8, 100 F2.8 macro and Tami 70-200 F2.8 plus APS-C stuff like Sigma 8-16 F4.5-5.6, Tokina 12-24 F4, Samyang fish 8 F3.5. Flash 430EX II plus some studio toys.

I've been shooting mostly for myself but now I'm trying to get some jobs around and it looks there is more coming on the horizon. At the moment I do weddings, events, promo, indoor and outdoor portraits some landscape for prints. While I would be quite happy with 6D for landscape, portrait and promo products shoots then anything else I do is screaming for 5Dmk3  ;)

Guys give me please a wise advice as after a weeks of reading opinions about 6D and 5Dmk3 still can't make a decision.

Thanks

Neuro nailed this earlier.  The main (significant) difference between the cameras is the AF system.  Sensors and IQ are nearly identical.  There are other differences that are more "Pro" features, but it doesn't seem that these really apply to the OP or to you.

I wouldn't buy a used older camera, the new technology in the 6D/5DIII is superior.
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Re: $2,800.00 budget
« Reply #19 on: March 20, 2013, 02:12:56 PM »
What do you shoot?  If it moves fast, get the 5DIII.  If it moves slow or not at all, get the 6D.

+1 that more or less says it all.  If you can get away with a 6D, it leaves some room for nice lenses.  If you are shooting sports, birds, ect. The AF of the 5D3 will be more useful.
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Re: $2,800.00 budget
« Reply #20 on: March 20, 2013, 02:43:04 PM »
Anyone can say something about DR on 6D and 5Dmk3? If I remember correctly dpreview is the only one that says 5Dmk3 is the winner for some others 6D has 1-1,5 EV extra over 5Dmk3.  Where is the truth ?

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Re: $2,800.00 budget
« Reply #21 on: March 20, 2013, 02:58:13 PM »
Hello CR friends.
 Have you ever got the fever to buy a new car?   Well I have the fever to buy a full frame camera.  I'm not a professional, just a hobbyist.  I currently own a T3i, with a kit lens, a Canon 50mm F1.4, Sigma 70-200mm F2.8 EX DG Macro HSM II.  I also have a Sigma 17-50mm f2.8 that I'm selling.  For the last 2 months I've read so many reviews, watched every video on YouTube, as well as many on vimeo. 

If you had 2,800.00 to spend, what you do?
Canon 6d with kit lens or 5d MK III body only

I feel the 5d MK III would hold it value longer that the 6d.

Your coming from a crop to FF, so the 6d will most likely fit your needs perfectly and give you lots of room to grow.  I second the idea of glass.  If you snag the 6d, don't get the kit lens (if you do, sell the kit lens!)...6d plus 135L would be a sweet combo.  Sell the 17-50 sigma for sure - and maybe consider a 17-40L for the wide end...
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Re: $2,800.00 budget
« Reply #21 on: March 20, 2013, 02:58:13 PM »

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Re: $2,800.00 budget
« Reply #22 on: March 20, 2013, 03:22:51 PM »
I would invest in better glass, and get a 1Ds Mark III second hand if possible.

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Re: $2,800.00 budget
« Reply #23 on: March 20, 2013, 04:06:48 PM »
I do weddings, events, promo, indoor and outdoor portraits some landscape for prints.

I'd get the 5D3.

Keep the T3i with the 8-16 and 8 mm fish for specialty shots at your events, also as a backup.

If you only have the 430EX then you'll need one or two more hotshoe flashes.  You have plenty of glass.  Looks like you'll be all set.

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Re: $2,800.00 budget
« Reply #24 on: March 20, 2013, 04:34:26 PM »
I feel the 5d MK III would hold it value longer that the 6d.

Forget 'holding value'.  It's an imaging computer and subject to Moore's law.

6D, body only.  Tammy 24-70VC.  In 3-6 months, sell whatever is covered in dust.

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Re: $2,800.00 budget
« Reply #25 on: March 20, 2013, 04:44:19 PM »
I do weddings, events, promo, indoor and outdoor portraits some landscape for prints.

I'd get the 5D3.

Keep the T3i with the 8-16 and 8 mm fish for specialty shots at your events, also as a backup.

If you only have the 430EX then you'll need one or two more hotshoe flashes.  You have plenty of glass.  Looks like you'll be all set.

I do have a 430EX Flash, also Manfrotto 055XPROB Pro Tripod, Manfrotto 496RC2 Ball Head with Quick Release Replaces Manfrotto 486RC2, Photography/Video Portrait Umbrella Continuous Triple Lighting Kit,  a few other accessories and several photography books on my iPad.
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Re: $2,800.00 budget
« Reply #26 on: March 21, 2013, 12:43:15 PM »
OK - you got the fever.  Here's a pill.  Sell the T3i ($450).  You've got the 50 1.4 - keep it, it's a classic. If you're happy with the zooms and those models support full frame, keep them.  Now with your $3300 budget do a deep introspection and figure out why you really need full frame.  If you do, buy either the 6D or a 5DmkII - about $1500 to $1800 gone - and you've got at least $1500 for "stuff". If not, buy a 7D or wait several months for the replacement and concentrate on using it effectively and adding $400-$500 to your budget for important stuff. Then examine the pictures you've taken and decide if you prefer close-up or distance opportunities.  Buy to improve your lens at either end of the spectrum.  I'd recommend either the 24L on the "short" side or the 135L on the "long" side.   You may find down the road that you can dump your zooms as plenty of photographers would find the 24/50/135 a perfectly adequate - and portable - kit.  Use the money from selling the zooms for a good flash or two should you discover the "joy" of portable light.

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Re: $2,800.00 budget
« Reply #27 on: March 21, 2013, 04:05:45 PM »
I do weddings, events, promo, indoor and outdoor portraits some landscape for prints.

I'd get the 5D3.

Keep the T3i with the 8-16 and 8 mm fish for specialty shots at your events, also as a backup.

If you only have the 430EX then you'll need one or two more hotshoe flashes.  You have plenty of glass.  Looks like you'll be all set.

I do have a 430EX Flash, also Manfrotto 055XPROB Pro Tripod, Manfrotto 496RC2 Ball Head with Quick Release Replaces Manfrotto 486RC2, Photography/Video Portrait Umbrella Continuous Triple Lighting Kit,  a few other accessories and several photography books on my iPad.
Great!  How about adding a 580EX or 600EX.  You'll get more power.  The 430EX will be a backup in case your main flash acts up.  Also you could try some multi-flash setups.

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Re: $2,800.00 budget
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Re: $2,800.00 budget
« Reply #28 on: March 29, 2013, 08:55:32 PM »
I do weddings, events, promo, indoor and outdoor portraits some landscape for prints.

I'd get the 5D3.

Keep the T3i with the 8-16 and 8 mm fish for specialty shots at your events, also as a backup.

If you only have the 430EX then you'll need one or two more hotshoe flashes.  You have plenty of glass.  Looks like you'll be all set.

I do have a 430EX Flash, also Manfrotto 055XPROB Pro Tripod, Manfrotto 496RC2 Ball Head with Quick Release Replaces Manfrotto 486RC2, Photography/Video Portrait Umbrella Continuous Triple Lighting Kit,  a few other accessories and several photography books on my iPad.
Great!  How about adding a 580EX or 600EX.  You'll get more power.  The 430EX will be a backup in case your main flash acts up.  Also you could try some multi-flash setups.

Hi AJ,
  I received my 6d with 24-105mm lens today,  I have a flash question for you, what would you suggest to use as a trigger/master on the 6D so I can use the 430 EX II as an off camera flash.  The two options I've found so far are the ex90 and Yongnuo YN622. I live near Destin, FL and wanted to shoot portrait on the beach.
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Re: $2,800.00 budget
« Reply #29 on: March 30, 2013, 11:53:03 AM »
I'm a hobbyist/enthusiast like you.

I'm not a professional nor am I planning on becoming one.... so I'm happy with my 60D... its only slightly professional.

However, in my opinion, the WIFI on the 6D is very tempting.

If I was going to buy a future FF, whether it be a 5D Mrk(whatever) or 6D Mrk(whatever), I would wait for the WIFI.

And, I will tell you why... there is an app on the iphone and ipad called "DSLR remote".

Currently, if you don't have WIFI on the camera, you need to connect your laptop (which would have WIFI) to the camera and then you can use "DSLR Remote"

DSLR Remote is cool especially if you have a ipad, because it acts as the LCD. You can just sit down anywhere and take your picture, and you can preview the picture (on the 10 inch ipad screen) before taking it. Same with video... imagine making sure the focus is right on 10 inch vs. the 3" on the back of your camera.

So with WIFI, you have only Camera with lens + tripod + ipad to take pictures/video with DSLR remote

Without WIFI, you need Camera with lens + tripod + laptop + something to hold laptop + ipad to take pictures/video with DSLR remote.
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Re: $2,800.00 budget
« Reply #29 on: March 30, 2013, 11:53:03 AM »