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« Reply #30 on: March 20, 2013, 09:22:59 PM »
well, a last we get a new sensor. or - in fact - a new badge with the great 2009 technology. and a little tweak. great.

we all like retro.

btw: did you know, intel just announced their new pentium II, 800 mhz prozessor???

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« Reply #30 on: March 20, 2013, 09:22:59 PM »

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« Reply #31 on: March 20, 2013, 09:51:29 PM »
well, a last we get a new sensor. or - in fact - a new badge with the great 2009 technology. and a little tweak. great.

we all like retro.

btw: did you know, intel just announced their new pentium II, 800 mhz prozessor???


Well if that little tweak is anything like this>>>>>http://www.canonrumors.com/2013/03/canon-announces-the-development-of-new-high-sensitivity-sensor/

I don't give a crap about 18MP, lower or higher..... cause its going to blow everything else (mainly the entry level DSLRs) out of the water.
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Re: EOS 70D, DIGIC 6 & 18mp Sensors
« Reply #32 on: March 20, 2013, 09:52:52 PM »
18MP again?!

**** you Canon.
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Re: EOS 70D, DIGIC 6 & 18mp Sensors
« Reply #33 on: March 20, 2013, 10:36:09 PM »
I honestly don't care about the MP count but the actual performance of the sensor. Most likely this is the same sensor as the past 3-4 years, which is just a kick to the groin for anyone with any faith left in Canon. There is a slim chance that this is indeed a completely new sensor and just uses the same MP count but really, how likely is it Canon not change the MP count at all? Not much, I think, especially from a marketing perspective. If on the off chance, that this is a new sensor, with improvements in DR and noise, I am in but at this point, I think it is just wishful thinking.

What do you guys think?

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Re: EOS 70D, DIGIC 6 & 18mp Sensors
« Reply #34 on: March 20, 2013, 11:01:34 PM »
Ah the EF 200-400 f/4L IS... The worst kept secret and will be the most un-exciting announcement ever.

No no... he's not talking about the 200-400.... he's talking about the 00-400 lens.... obviousl some new super-ultra-mega wide angle lens...

It's so wide it takes a detailed scan of the brain of the person behind the camera and delivers a picture of what they're thinking.

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Re: EOS 70D, DIGIC 6 & 18mp Sensors
« Reply #35 on: March 20, 2013, 11:15:01 PM »
I think this "new" thing is just a marketing bluff. They will probably take the same 18MP sensor, remove the AA filter and call it done. It might increase sharpness and details, but it won't improve dynamic range.
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Re: EOS 70D, DIGIC 6 & 18mp Sensors
« Reply #36 on: March 20, 2013, 11:31:40 PM »
Ah the EF 200-400 f/4L IS... The worst kept secret and will be the most un-exciting announcement ever.

No no... he's not talking about the 200-400.... he's talking about the 00-400 lens.... obviousl some new super-ultra-mega wide angle lens...

It's so wide it takes a detailed scan of the brain of the person behind the camera and delivers a picture of what they're thinking.

Awesome! I've been waiting for so long for a lens with a ∞ field of view!
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Re: EOS 70D, DIGIC 6 & 18mp Sensors
« Reply #36 on: March 20, 2013, 11:31:40 PM »

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Re: EOS 70D, DIGIC 6 & 18mp Sensors
« Reply #37 on: March 21, 2013, 12:35:50 AM »
well as you may noticed the 650D had a NEW sensor too.
now how well does that worked out?
worse DXO mark then the 550D sensor and the hybrid focus not worth much.

i will be excited when i see the results of this "new" sensor justify it.

+1

Wish list: contrast AF as fast as OM-D, 14 stops low ISO dynamic range and 0.5 stop improvement in high ISO performance.

Reality: perhaps nothing.... I dare not dream any more, having been disappointed by Canon too many times...

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Re: EOS 70D, DIGIC 6 & 18mp Sensors
« Reply #38 on: March 21, 2013, 12:38:31 AM »
I honestly don't care about the MP count but the actual performance of the sensor. Most likely this is the same sensor as the past 3-4 years, which is just a kick to the groin for anyone with any faith left in Canon. There is a slim chance that this is indeed a completely new sensor and just uses the same MP count but really, how likely is it Canon not change the MP count at all? Not much, I think, especially from a marketing perspective. If on the off chance, that this is a new sensor, with improvements in DR and noise, I am in but at this point, I think it is just wishful thinking.

What do you guys think?

If the MP count has not changed then the underlying technology behind the pixels/sensor has not changed. i.e. there will be no DR/noise improvements over the 60D.

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Re: EOS 70D, DIGIC 6 & 18mp Sensors
« Reply #39 on: March 21, 2013, 01:18:10 AM »
If the MP count has not changed then the underlying technology behind the pixels/sensor has not changed. i.e. there will be no DR/noise improvements over the 60D.

Indeed. I do not see why Canon does not want to take advantage of an improved sensor design to venture into higher pixel count territory. It is after all a chance for them to brag.

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Re: EOS 70D, DIGIC 6 & 18mp Sensors
« Reply #40 on: March 21, 2013, 01:37:46 AM »
If the MP count has not changed then the underlying technology behind the pixels/sensor has not changed. i.e. there will be no DR/noise improvements over the 60D.

Indeed. I do not see why Canon does not want to take advantage of an improved sensor design to venture into higher pixel count territory. It is after all a chance for them to brag.

What if they can't?
What if some n years ago, they reached a point where they couldn't improve any further?

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Re: EOS 70D, DIGIC 6 & 18mp Sensors
« Reply #41 on: March 21, 2013, 02:07:33 AM »
I hope is actually a new sensor and not more on chip auto focus spots and a stronger AA filter for video that will just rob more IQ from an already dated sensor.

Spot on. Canon would do themselves good to follow in Pentax's footsteps, offer an AA-less camera that's basically for stills only, and destroy the "video" option on the mode dial with an obviously outdated terrible interface and frustrating experience so that nobody ever uses it. "It's there, but don't bother" kind of thing. Better yet, cut live-view and video out entirely and make a stills-only high-res AA-less gem like in the good old days of low-ASA Velvia and sh¡t. No other consumer SLR could touch it.
But Canon just keeps hacking the video in all their new cameras. All the new features are for video. I remember seeing a poll in Shutterbug or Popular Photography last year saying less than a third of the people who make videos in life make them with their SLRs rather than their smartphones. Canon is crippling their stills shooters across the entire lineup of cameras to gain a little on soon-to-be-outdated 1080p super-downsampled video-res-optimized sensors. Keep the 1D-Cs and Vixias separate from the high-end EOS SLRs, mixing the two is killing us. Rather than upgrading, I'll just remove the AA filter from my T2i for $400 and end up with the same dynamic range, same resolution, but better sharpness and upscale-ability than any of the newer 18mp sensors.
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Re: EOS 70D, DIGIC 6 & 18mp Sensors
« Reply #42 on: March 21, 2013, 02:09:00 AM »
If the MP count has not changed then the underlying technology behind the pixels/sensor has not changed. i.e. there will be no DR/noise improvements over the 60D.

Indeed. I do not see why Canon does not want to take advantage of an improved sensor design to venture into higher pixel count territory. It is after all a chance for them to brag.

What if they can't?
What if some n years ago, they reached a point where they couldn't improve any further?
You're probably right.

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« Reply #42 on: March 21, 2013, 02:09:00 AM »

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Re: EOS 70D, DIGIC 6 & 18mp Sensors
« Reply #43 on: March 21, 2013, 02:13:19 AM »
........................The EF 00-400 f/4L IS 1.4x is becoming a running joke with folks at Canon, I don’t think any one really knows why it hasn’t been officially announced yet.

I would say it IS already a running joke.
I really wonder why Canon is following such strategy towards its customers. Making announcements long before release of a product and then postpone the actual release and availibility.
 
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« Reply #44 on: March 21, 2013, 02:58:51 AM »
Ah the EF 200-400 f/4L IS... The worst kept secret and will be the most un-exciting announcement ever.

No no... he's not talking about the 200-400.... he's talking about the 00-400 lens.... obviousl some new super-ultra-mega wide angle lens...

It's so wide it takes a detailed scan of the brain of the person behind the camera and delivers a picture of what they're thinking.
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Re: EOS 70D, DIGIC 6 & 18mp Sensors
« Reply #44 on: March 21, 2013, 02:58:51 AM »