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Re: EOS 70D, DIGIC 6 & 18mp Sensors
« Reply #75 on: March 22, 2013, 01:09:47 AM »
Great to see CanonRumors has a solid team in training for the 2016 Trollympics.

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Re: EOS 70D, DIGIC 6 & 18mp Sensors
« Reply #75 on: March 22, 2013, 01:09:47 AM »

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Re: EOS 70D, DIGIC 6 & 18mp Sensors
« Reply #76 on: March 22, 2013, 01:10:13 AM »
Totally forgot about the 200-400, as if it was already announced. This doesn't make sense, unless Canon are waiting to announce with the 7D Mark II. I can see it happening.

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Re: EOS 70D, DIGIC 6 & 18mp Sensors
« Reply #77 on: March 22, 2013, 01:18:28 AM »
Great to see CanonRumors has a solid team in training for the 2016 Trollympics.

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Go team!!!

I see you are already hitting your straps as team captain....
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Re: EOS 70D, DIGIC 6 & 18mp Sensors
« Reply #78 on: March 22, 2013, 05:40:26 AM »
I am for one hoping that the Digic 6 will in combination increase the useable ISO and speed on the 70D. 100-51200 (expandable to 102400) would be nice. As usual, that would mean that about 2 stops from the limit would be actually good, and 12800 could be used in a pinch, and the excellent levels upped to 3200-6400.

I am ofc not holding my breath... :)

But, 100-25600 (51200), 6400 in a pinch, 3200 still excellent I would think would be enough to get this 70D off the shelves. (1 stop over 7D, and DXOmark around 1600)

...still not holding my breath...

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Re: EOS 70D, DIGIC 6 & 18mp Sensors
« Reply #79 on: March 22, 2013, 05:55:28 AM »
Totally forgot about the 200-400, as if it was already announced. This doesn't make sense, unless Canon are waiting to announce with the 7D Mark II. I can see it happening.

I don't somehow this will be an often sold combo - the 7d2 has the built-in 1.6x tc that makes it attractive for budget tele shots, but people who buy the heavy and expensive $10k 200-400 probably will buy a 5d3 or 1dx for it - otherwise you're only using the center piece of the excellent glass on crop, wasting money and weight.

I am for one hoping that the Digic 6 will in combination increase the useable ISO and speed on the 70D

Hardly - a faster cpu might do better jpeg noise reduction, but you're still better off shooting raw and doing selective nr in post. For iso/dr, the sensor is the component you'd have to upgrade, and Canon obviously either isn't willing or able to do it. The DIGIC6 might do better video af, faster video (1080p/60) or more fps though.

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Re: EOS 70D, DIGIC 6 & 18mp Sensors
« Reply #80 on: March 22, 2013, 07:02:12 AM »
Great to see CanonRumors has a solid team in training for the 2016 Trollympics.

Events to include the 60 second Disparage, 10 second Product Assassination and the highly prestigious Trollage Ultra-Marathon.

Go team!!!

I see you are already hitting your straps as team captain....

LOL Yeah I'm happy to help any way I can...

If it is permitted to be serious for a moment, when Photozone reviewed the 7D they reckoned that 18MP were plenty and that very very few lenses could make use of all of that.  I also recall a review saying that 15MP (50D?) was, loosely quoting, "getting towards the limit of what is sensible on an APS-C sensor".

The releases of the 70D and 7D mk ii will be interesting.  When I first picked up a 7D I was amazed by the size and brightness of the viewfinder.  I didn't find the 60D to be much better than my 550D in that respect, and nowhere near as good as the 7D.  If this trend continues I'll probably favour the 7D mk ii.  Assuming they live up to expectations otherwise.


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Re: EOS 70D, DIGIC 6 & 18mp Sensors
« Reply #81 on: March 22, 2013, 07:08:37 AM »
I see you are already hitting your straps as team captain....
Ha ha ha ... good one. Most of these folk 8itching and cribbing about Canon cameras, for some strange reason, are usually new members or those with just a dozen or so posts ... makes me wonder if these folk are "sleeper cell" trolls, they have nothing much to contribute towards photography or help someone who is asking seeking help/advice etc but the moment there is a new Canon camera being released or if there is a discussion about a any other camera maker, they suddenly come out in the open, only to disappear.
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Re: EOS 70D, DIGIC 6 & 18mp Sensors
« Reply #81 on: March 22, 2013, 07:08:37 AM »

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Re: EOS 70D, DIGIC 6 & 18mp Sensors
« Reply #82 on: March 22, 2013, 07:32:42 AM »
I am for one hoping that the Digic 6 will in combination increase the useable ISO and speed on the 70D

Hardly - a faster cpu might do better jpeg noise reduction, but you're still better off shooting raw and doing selective nr in post. For iso/dr, the sensor is the component you'd have to upgrade, and Canon obviously either isn't willing or able to do it. The DIGIC6 might do better video af, faster video (1080p/60) or more fps though.

Hmm, It seems I missed the "with the new sensor" after "in combination". Yes, you are ofc right. I was thinking that it might be some debanding, denoising etc software at work even on the raw pics, and the Digic 6 might handle that.

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Re: EOS 70D, DIGIC 6 & 18mp Sensors
« Reply #83 on: March 22, 2013, 12:38:28 PM »
I see you are already hitting your straps as team captain....
Ha ha ha ... good one. Most of these folk 8itching and cribbing about Canon cameras, for some strange reason, are usually new members or those with just a dozen or so posts ... makes me wonder if these folk are "sleeper cell" trolls, they have nothing much to contribute towards photography or help someone who is asking seeking help/advice etc but the moment there is a new Canon camera being released or if there is a discussion about a any other camera maker, they suddenly come out in the open, only to disappear.

again you are wrong or just plain telling a lie trying to make a point.

there are a few new posters here who obviously are sony or nikon fans but it´s also obviously not "most folks".
If you are not one of them, you should not have any problem ... if not sue me.
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Re: EOS 70D, DIGIC 6 & 18mp Sensors
« Reply #84 on: March 22, 2013, 12:55:40 PM »
If you are not one of them, you should not have any problem

excuse me but i have problems with people who make things up.
no matter if i am affected by their bollocks or not.
OK, you are excused ;D
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Re: EOS 70D, DIGIC 6 & 18mp Sensors
« Reply #85 on: March 22, 2013, 05:45:51 PM »
Wow, every thread I go Rienzphoto is crying. Stop being such a big fanboy and get a life.
So you are stooping to personal attacks I get it, its a classic case of the old saying: "the hit dog howls"
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Re: EOS 70D, DIGIC 6 & 18mp Sensors
« Reply #86 on: March 27, 2013, 02:17:50 AM »
.... 8k displays actually exist.
What would you use that for? Your eye can't make the difference... For a PRO - OK where a lot process can be executed on a HUGE SCREEN - only possible application.

For a simple display - NO WAY!

Nonsense, heck people said the same thing about 1920x1080 for smaller than 40" and now we have it even for tablets! People claimed 1080p is useless for small sets, funny that even on a 24" monitor that a game without any AA at 1920x1200 on 24" looks like a jaggy mess, if the eye can't see it then how does it see a jaggy mess?

People print 300PPI from 21MP at 13x19" and you think 8K is silly?

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Re: EOS 70D, DIGIC 6 & 18mp Sensors
« Reply #87 on: March 27, 2013, 04:02:39 AM »
Hmm, It seems I missed the "with the new sensor" after "in combination". Yes, you are ofc right. I was thinking that it might be some debanding, denoising etc software at work even on the raw pics, and the Digic 6 might handle that.

I hope not - though Canon might be tempted - because raw should be raw, the more updateable (!) & more powerful postprocessing software on the pc/mac shoud do everything, something done in camera is just for performance cosmetics (like forced nr on high iso). Interesting idea about software debanding though, unfortunately no one has come up with a working algorithm, in-camera or otherwise.

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Re: EOS 70D, DIGIC 6 & 18mp Sensors
« Reply #87 on: March 27, 2013, 04:02:39 AM »

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Re: EOS 70D, DIGIC 6 & 18mp Sensors
« Reply #88 on: March 29, 2013, 04:08:37 AM »
I see you are already hitting your straps as team captain....
Ha ha ha ... good one. Most of these folk 8itching and cribbing about Canon cameras, for some strange reason, are usually new members or those with just a dozen or so posts ... makes me wonder if these folk are "sleeper cell" trolls, they have nothing much to contribute towards photography or help someone who is asking seeking help/advice etc but the moment there is a new Canon camera being released or if there is a discussion about a any other camera maker, they suddenly come out in the open, only to disappear.

Sleeper cell trolls? Fox media getting to you? I can't speak for the rest of us, I'm just a disheartened romantic hoping Canon will find their way back to the top someday...got tired of reading the CR blog and holding my tongue every time I was disappointed with another announcement. Which has been every time since the T2i.
Contribution to photography? Here's my baby Penny in a lukewarm pan of penné. I thought that was clever. Maybe PETA can use it to sell vegetarianism.
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Re: EOS 70D, DIGIC 6 & 18mp Sensors
« Reply #89 on: April 01, 2013, 10:03:21 PM »
I see you are already hitting your straps as team captain....
Ha ha ha ... good one. Most of these folk 8itching and cribbing about Canon cameras, for some strange reason, are usually new members or those with just a dozen or so posts ... makes me wonder if these folk are "sleeper cell" trolls, they have nothing much to contribute towards photography or help someone who is asking seeking help/advice etc but the moment there is a new Canon camera being released or if there is a discussion about a any other camera maker, they suddenly come out in the open, only to disappear.

Sleeper cell trolls? Fox media getting to you? I can't speak for the rest of us, I'm just a disheartened romantic hoping Canon will find their way back to the top someday...got tired of reading the CR blog and holding my tongue every time I was disappointed with another announcement. Which has been every time since the T2i.
Contribution to photography? Here's my baby Penny in a lukewarm pan of penné. I thought that was clever. Maybe PETA can use it to sell vegetarianism.
That's weird man. Or you are a genius!!!   ;D

About criticism, I think Rienz is referring to other posters than you. It's the 'Canon sucks, I'm losing customers so I will change to Nikon' by 23 year old gear heads I think he is talking about.

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Re: EOS 70D, DIGIC 6 & 18mp Sensors
« Reply #89 on: April 01, 2013, 10:03:21 PM »