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Re: Congratulations Canon to another great Camera release!!
« Reply #45 on: March 21, 2013, 03:19:26 PM »
Does anyone remember the film days, when a new camera model was introduced every five years or more?  Now anything over a year and people are freaking out.  I started on the fantastic manual Pentax K1000 which had about a 20 year production run (and I am pretty sure is the best selling camera model of all time).

I  never had a really nice camera until mane my 3mp fuji finepix.   And that was a world of difference. 

OK, the t5i does seem unnecessary - why not stick with t4i?  But the SL1 I think is great and I am glad they offer it body only.  Not for use with large lenses, but with a 20mm Voigtlander pancake for the ultimate quality point and shoot.  If I can save up, I may go this route.
 the t5i  is  nothing but a marketing name,  but I think the other is still to big.   there is a reason slrs  are  big and that is ergonomics and  inertia.

Funny how people think 18MP is not enough in an entry level crop sensor camera, yet I see very few complaints about the flagship full frame pro camera 1DX being only 18MP.  The rebel line is entry level - do you really think its users are making 40x60 inch enlargements?  (I work at a pro lab and I am virtually certain the SL1 and t5i will make very nice enlargements up to 24x36 inches - how many people need more?).

 I'm not concerned about megapixels,  but I  do  crop into my images often.  if it is a moving target,  it is easier to compose in post.   that's where I find megapixels come in handy.

As for AFMA, I use a 5D2, I have large aperture lenses, and I have never had a need for AFMA.  Plus, no one is using large aperture lenses on these cameras and it would just be another confusing menu item.  I teach beginning photo classes at my lab and trust me, there are way too many menu options already - the average person does not want and will never use all those settings.
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 the best value lens for beginners is the 50mm f1.8.   One hundred bucks and  you get great images and depth of field.  afma  would havebeenimportant to me then ( when I started)  as  it is to me today.
Upgrade  path.->means the former was sold for the latter.

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Re: Congratulations Canon to another great Camera release!!
« Reply #45 on: March 21, 2013, 03:19:26 PM »

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Re: Congratulations Canon to another great Camera release!!
« Reply #46 on: March 21, 2013, 03:19:31 PM »
Straight from the Canon Japan website:

Shot at ISO 1600
http://canon-premium.webcdn.stream.ne.jp/www09/canon-premium/eosd/samples/eos100d/downloads/06.jpg

Well, that pretty much confirms it to me. Looks pretty much like my 550d; I can already see the hallmark red/green blotches of pattern noise without even attempting to lift the shadows.

Let's hope they'll do better on the 70d. I don't see why they couldn't. From what I've seen, this problem is much better controlled on the 5d3/6d?

this image was not taken with t5i aka kiss x7i, it was taken with sl1 aka x7.  i am not sure as if anyone interest in seeing images taken with t5i?  but if you do, i have some (a portrait shot with 1600 iso is the highest iso image i have... pretty clean image). 


note:  recently found out that they have updated their website with all 8 images from t5i, so i do not need to post them up.  here is the link http://web.canon.jp/imaging/eosd/samples/eos700d/

another thing is that i am not sure why people are complaining about this one.  canon did not say that they are majorly upgrading nor minor upgrading this to t4i, but just said that a new version.  like someone in this threat has said that you will find a new model of car every year, but the different might be just lights...

canon, pleaseeee release your 7d mark ii....
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Re: Congratulations Canon to another great Camera release!!
« Reply #47 on: March 21, 2013, 03:19:58 PM »
Canon failed at a mirrorless camera so they said, "Lets just make the SLR really small. So small the advantage is lost to not having a mirror" Voila! The SL1. Personally, If it was a FF camera that size, We'd all have our minds blown.

It would have to have a very special prism housing to make that work ;)
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Re: Congratulations Canon to another great Camera release!!
« Reply #48 on: March 21, 2013, 03:26:33 PM »
you could buy a 7D . . .

I've heard those things take decent photos occasionally . . .

I think you're barking up the wrong tree.  Judging by the comments above, most of the people posting on this thread don't take photos... I would be surprised if any of them even own a camera.

Judging by your comment above.... I would be surprised if you didn't work for Canon marketing.  ;D

No... if he was working for canon, his response would be along the lines of "and know what you can do with your tax refund, go spend it on the new ground breaking canon T5i and the industry leading 18-135!  A camera so good even jackie chan uses it!"
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Re: Congratulations Canon to another great Camera release!!
« Reply #49 on: March 21, 2013, 03:29:33 PM »
As for AFMA, I use a 5D2, I have large aperture lenses, and I have never had a need for AFMA.  Plus, no one is using large aperture lenses on these cameras and it would just be another confusing menu item.  ... trust me, there are way too many menu options already - the average person does not want and will never use all those settings.

+1  ;)

If anyone if worries about AFMA, then they aren't the target audience for this camera...  The people who are the target audience are those who say, of look cool, it has video!
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Re: Congratulations Canon to another great Camera release!!
« Reply #50 on: March 21, 2013, 03:32:27 PM »
Canon failed at a mirrorless camera so they said, "Lets just make the SLR really small. So small the advantage is lost to not having a mirror" Voila! The SL1. Personally, If it was a FF camera that size, We'd all have our minds blown.

It would have to have a very special prism housing to make that work ;)

Rebel 2000 + FF sensor = The most awesome compact FF camera ever. Done. I'd buy that.

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Re: Congratulations Canon to another great Camera release!!
« Reply #51 on: March 21, 2013, 03:38:50 PM »
Good lord, this is why I need to stay away from the Canon forums for a few days after an announcement.  If you guys took pictures half as well as you whined about Canon, you'd all be professionals (and ironically, would complain far less about rebel series SLRs).
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Re: Congratulations Canon to another great Camera release!!
« Reply #51 on: March 21, 2013, 03:38:50 PM »

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Re: Congratulations Canon to another great Camera release!!
« Reply #52 on: March 21, 2013, 03:54:35 PM »
Good lord, this is why I need to stay away from the Canon forums for a few days after an announcement.  If you guys took pictures half as well as you whined about Canon, you'd all be professionals (and ironically, would complain far less about rebel series SLRs).

instead we all take crap pictures like you and complain about no innovation at canon....


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If anyone if worries about AFMA, then they aren't the target audience for this camera...  The people who are the target audience are those who say, of look cool, it has video!

there are plenty of people who can only afford a xxxD body.
they spend more for lenses and AFMA would be usefull for them.

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Re: Congratulations Canon to another great Camera release!!
« Reply #53 on: March 21, 2013, 04:13:28 PM »
Good lord, this is why I need to stay away from the Canon forums for a few days after an announcement.  If you guys took pictures half as well as you whined about Canon, you'd all be professionals (and ironically, would complain far less about rebel series SLRs).

instead we all take crap pictures like you and complain about no innovation at canon....


Taking pictures > complaining.
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Re: Congratulations Canon to another great Camera release!!
« Reply #54 on: March 21, 2013, 04:16:42 PM »
Good lord, this is why I need to stay away from the Canon forums for a few days after an announcement.  If you guys took pictures half as well as you whined about Canon, you'd all be professionals (and ironically, would complain far less about rebel series SLRs).

instead we all take crap pictures like you and complain about no innovation at canon....


Taking pictures > complaining.

well your not taking pictures right now, you are arguing here... so what?

when you are so good at giving advices... why not following them yourself?  :P
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Re: Congratulations Canon to another great Camera release!!
« Reply #55 on: March 21, 2013, 04:18:36 PM »
I can't understand why they still won't allow AFMA in rebels, especially since 99% of all wide aperture lenses needs to be adjusted.

99% is much to much - esp. Canon lenses on Canon cameras are most of the time absolutely usable w/o afma. But Canon's rationale is simple: They want to prevent photogs using expensive lenses on cheap cameras, which otherwise would be a good idea because glass keeps the value longer - so you are forced to upgrade to a €1000+ body which is guaranteed Canon's profit other than 3rd party lenses.

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Re: Congratulations Canon to another great Camera release!!
« Reply #56 on: March 21, 2013, 04:18:49 PM »
Here is a nice short review of hands on with a pre-production SL1.

http://www.thephoblographer.com/2013/03/21/first-impressions-canon-rebel-sl1/

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Re: Congratulations Canon to another great Camera release!!
« Reply #57 on: March 21, 2013, 04:20:32 PM »
Funny how people think 18MP is not enough in an entry level crop sensor camera, yet I see very few complaints about the flagship full frame pro camera 1DX being only 18MP.  The rebel line is entry level - do you really think its users are making 40x60 inch enlargements?  (I work at a pro lab and I am virtually certain the SL1 and t5i will make very nice enlargements up to 24x36 inches - how many people need more?).

Because pro's more often than not get the photo right (or as right as it can be) when they take it and need less correction.

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Re: Congratulations Canon to another great Camera release!!
« Reply #57 on: March 21, 2013, 04:20:32 PM »

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Re: Congratulations Canon to another great Camera release!!
« Reply #58 on: March 21, 2013, 04:22:31 PM »
Canon failed at a mirrorless camera so they said, "Lets just make the SLR really small. So small the advantage is lost to not having a mirror" Voila! The SL1. Personally, If it was a FF camera that size, We'd all have our minds blown.

Consider that the planning and execution for a DSLR is probably a 3 year project, so that the SL1 would have been started before the EOS M came to market.

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« Reply #59 on: March 21, 2013, 04:25:52 PM »
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If anyone if worries about AFMA, then they aren't the target audience for this camera...  The people who are the target audience are those who say, of look cool, it has video!

there are plenty of people who can only afford a xxxD body.
they spend more for lenses and AFMA would be usefull for them.

Of course I would love a lexus, but if I could only afford a Hyundai, I wouldn't expect to get high end lexus features in the Hyundai.  If you can only afford this camera, save up like just about anyone has to do, or if your set on getting this level of camera, send in your camera/lenses to be calibrated together... 
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Re: Congratulations Canon to another great Camera release!!
« Reply #59 on: March 21, 2013, 04:25:52 PM »