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Re: Fastest card for 5DM3 - do you still buffer out?
« Reply #15 on: March 24, 2013, 09:46:12 AM »
While we are on the subject... I have a Sandisk and a Lexar UHS SD card... so class 10, but basically 45 to 60 mbps... and I was shopping for CF cards the other day and I think the fastest I saw was 1000x in my budget range. 

So my question is how much faster is the cf card than the sd card?  Is it the write speeds which makes the difference and not the reported read speeds?

On the 5DM3 or just in general?  On the 5DM3, the CF slot is the racehorse. The SD slot is not UHS-1 enabled, and seems to max out at about 25% of what the CF slot can do (with the fastest CF card = Lexar 1000X)...

I knew the mkiii didn't do uhs... which ticks me off, but it's more fake anger.  So a 4:1 ratio... ouch.  I wish there was resale value to my SD cards... but they don't have much of a draw.
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Re: Fastest card for 5DM3 - do you still buffer out?
« Reply #15 on: March 24, 2013, 09:46:12 AM »

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Re: Fastest card for 5DM3 - do you still buffer out?
« Reply #16 on: March 24, 2013, 11:00:56 AM »
While we are on the subject... I have a Sandisk and a Lexar UHS SD card... so class 10, but basically 45 to 60 mbps... and I was shopping for CF cards the other day and I think the fastest I saw was 1000x in my budget range. 

So my question is how much faster is the cf card than the sd card?  Is it the write speeds which makes the difference and not the reported read speeds?

On the 5DM3 or just in general?  On the 5DM3, the CF slot is the racehorse. The SD slot is not UHS-1 enabled, and seems to max out at about 25% of what the CF slot can do (with the fastest CF card = Lexar 1000X)...

I knew the mkiii didn't do uhs... which ticks me off, but it's more fake anger.  So a 4:1 ratio... ouch.  I wish there was resale value to my SD cards... but they don't have much of a draw.

Yeah, I will never understand why Canon did that to the SD slot... They have UHS-1 on a Rebel, for goodness sakes! If you write to both cards, for insurance, the SD will slow you down considerably...
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Re: Fastest card for 5DM3 - do you still buffer out?
« Reply #17 on: March 24, 2013, 11:45:30 AM »
I'm waiting for a low level format to complete on my 64GB Lexar 1000X (It takes about a hour).
 
I'll check tomorrow to see how many raw shots I get on high speed shooting before the buffer fills and the slowdown begins.


Low level format for a CF or SD card?  How do you do a low level format on a CF card?

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Re: Fastest card for 5DM3 - do you still buffer out?
« Reply #18 on: March 24, 2013, 12:13:05 PM »
i guess you do it with your computer.
 
I posted this http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/camera_wb_multi_page.asp?cid=6007-12452 a long time ago, but here it is again.

 personally, i've been using a sandisk 64gb SD card since i got my mk3 and it's been fine for what i normally do, but i did just swap it out for a lexar 800X CF card and as rob's chart shows it's a world of difference. 

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« Reply #19 on: March 24, 2013, 01:07:29 PM »
I normally use Sandisk Extreme Pro CF cards in my 5D M3 and then several people told me that they don't fill the buffer using a 1000x CF card.  I tried the Lexar 1000x card and the buffer still fills up.   I seem to get a few more shots before the buffer fills with the Lexar 1000x.

Has anyone tried other cards that are fast enough so that they buffer never fills?

Thanks

With RAW it eventually fills with any card, although Sandisk 1000x 32GB (I think some of the smaller sizes are slower?) it takes longer and, in real world usage, with this card I all but never buffer out (with other cards I would at times, especially for surfing and a long ride with lots of tricks and so on, although a super long barrel can maybe still hit it, but it's way better than before and for the most part no longer an issue).

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Re: Fastest card for 5DM3 - do you still buffer out?
« Reply #20 on: March 24, 2013, 01:09:46 PM »
While we are on the subject... I have a Sandisk and a Lexar UHS SD card... so class 10, but basically 45 to 60 mbps... and I was shopping for CF cards the other day and I think the fastest I saw was 1000x in my budget range. 

So my question is how much faster is the cf card than the sd card?  Is it the write speeds which makes the difference and not the reported read speeds?

On the 5DM3 or just in general?  On the 5DM3, the CF slot is the racehorse. The SD slot is not UHS-1 enabled, and seems to max out at about 25% of what the CF slot can do (with the fastest CF card = Lexar 1000X)...

I knew the mkiii didn't do uhs... which ticks me off, but it's more fake anger.  So a 4:1 ratio... ouch.  I wish there was resale value to my SD cards... but they don't have much of a draw.

Yeah, I will never understand why Canon did that to the SD slot... They have UHS-1 on a Rebel, for goodness sakes! If you write to both cards, for insurance, the SD will slow you down considerably...

I've read that in this case it actually wasn't Canon crippling something but that their chip supplier for Digic, TI, simply didn't make the basic core for the digic with two full speed interfaces and if it had a fast CF interface then the SD slot had to be slow.

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Re: Fastest card for 5DM3 - do you still buffer out?
« Reply #21 on: March 24, 2013, 01:11:20 PM »
I normally use Sandisk Extreme Pro CF cards in my 5D M3 and then several people told me that they don't fill the buffer using a 1000x CF card.  I tried the Lexar 1000x card and the buffer still fills up.   I seem to get a few more shots before the buffer fills with the Lexar 1000x.

Has anyone tried other cards that are fast enough so that they buffer never fills?

Thanks

You want to avoid RAW+JPG though as the buffer for that can still fill fast. JPGs go without filling up. RAWs go for a long time. RAW+JPG can hit the buffer pretty easily.

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Re: Fastest card for 5DM3 - do you still buffer out?
« Reply #21 on: March 24, 2013, 01:11:20 PM »

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Re: Fastest card for 5DM3 - do you still buffer out?
« Reply #22 on: March 24, 2013, 07:41:55 PM »
I normally use Sandisk Extreme Pro CF cards in my 5D M3 and then several people told me that they don't fill the buffer using a 1000x CF card.  I tried the Lexar 1000x card and the buffer still fills up.   I seem to get a few more shots before the buffer fills with the Lexar 1000x.

Has anyone tried other cards that are fast enough so that they buffer never fills?

Thanks

You want to avoid RAW+JPG though as the buffer for that can still fill fast. JPGs go without filling up. RAWs go for a long time. RAW+JPG can hit the buffer pretty easily.

I do highest quality raw + lowest quality Jpg... so not best of both worlds... but good enough.
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Re: Fastest card for 5DM3 - do you still buffer out?
« Reply #22 on: March 24, 2013, 07:41:55 PM »