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Will you be disappointed if the 70d gets the same 18mp sensor?

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I want to know what this lovely community thinks about this matter!
I know I will be a bit disappointed, but don't get me wrong: I won't judge the camera just from its sensor. It can be a great DSLR no matter what sensor it will have..
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Re: Will you be disappointed if the 70d gets the same 18mp sensor?
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2013, 03:34:14 PM »
The 7D is now nearly 4 years old.  To announce a replacement without a significant technology
upgrade would be just foolish - unless you want to sell 6D's and relegate crop sensor to the
amateur market.

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Re: Will you be disappointed if the 70d gets the same 18mp sensor?
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2013, 03:39:31 PM »
Do you actually believe that the number of megapixels means its the same sensor?  Perhaps you think the T4i has the same sensor, after its also 18mp, and then the T5i too.
Does the G11 have the same sensor as the old Canon 5D?  Both are 12 mp, as is the Nikon D700.
 
 

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Re: Will you be disappointed if the 70d gets the same 18mp sensor?
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2013, 03:43:31 PM »
Do you actually believe that the number of megapixels means its the same sensor?  Perhaps you think the T4i has the same sensor, after its also 18mp, and then the T5i too.
Does the G11 have the same sensor as the old Canon 5D?  Both are 12 mp, as is the Nikon D700.

We could also bring up the sensor in the 1DX.  It's only 18 mp :).
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Re: Will you be disappointed if the 70d gets the same 18mp sensor?
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2013, 03:46:13 PM »
Do you actually believe that the number of megapixels means its the same sensor?  Perhaps you think the T4i has the same sensor, after its also 18mp, and then the T5i too.
Does the G11 have the same sensor as the old Canon 5D?  Both are 12 mp, as is the Nikon D700.


Good point. Who wants more than 18 mp on APS anyway ? Come to think of who wants more than 18 mp on FF really  ;D

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Re: Will you be disappointed if the 70d gets the same 18mp sensor?
« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2013, 03:50:33 PM »
Perhaps you think the T4i has the same sensor, after its also 18mp, and then the T5i too.
I said "the same" because iq wise there is no improvement!

Does the G11 have the same sensor as the old Canon 5D?  Both are 12 mp, as is the Nikon D700.
Shocking as it may be, I've read somewhere that they differ a bit! Correct me if I'm wrong  :P
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Re: Will you be disappointed if the 70d gets the same 18mp sensor?
« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2013, 04:00:26 PM »
GUYS! Chill!
I was referring to the generation/technology of the sensor and not to the number of the megapixels themselves! I don't care about the megapixel count as long as they are more than 8 (personally 10mp is enough for my needs).

I just want to see a "next gen" sensor by Canon though. Something that will be on par with Sony/Oly sensors.

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Re: Will you be disappointed if the 70d gets the same 18mp sensor?
« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2013, 04:00:26 PM »

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Re: Will you be disappointed if the 70d gets the same 18mp sensor?
« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2013, 04:26:06 PM »
GUYS! Chill!
I was referring to the generation/technology of the sensor and not to the number of the megapixels themselves! I don't care about the megapixel count as long as they are more than 8 (personally 10mp is enough for my needs).

I just want to see a "next gen" sensor by Canon though. Something that will be on par with Sony/Oly sensors.

I think I would be disappointed.  Afterall, they can certainly put a next gen sensor in the camera.  So yes, I'd be disappointed.
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Re: Will you be disappointed if the 70d gets the same 18mp sensor?
« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2013, 04:53:58 PM »
I won't be disappointed if the 70D gets the 'old' sensor, but I will be disappointed if the 7DII doesn't get a meaningfully improved sensor.
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Re: Will you be disappointed if the 70d gets the same 18mp sensor?
« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2013, 05:00:12 PM »
We could also bring up the sensor in the 1DX.  It's only 18 mp :).

Same, four-year old, 18mp sensor = big disappointment !
New, 18mp sensor with better DR and 1+ stops better ISO = hurray!!!

P.S. It's not the number of megapixels that will disappoint but their quality.
Bring 1DX quality to 1.6x sensors and nobody will complain that 18mp is not enough.
(Yes, I know that this is difficult/impossible. Just giving an example here.)
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Re: Will you be disappointed if the 70d gets the same 18mp sensor?
« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2013, 05:03:27 PM »
We could also bring up the sensor in the 1DX.  It's only 18 mp :).

Same, four-year old, 18mp sensor = big disappointment !
New, 18mp sensor with better DR and 1+ stops better ISO = hurray!!!

P.S. It's not the number of megapixels that will disappoint but their quality.
Bring 1DX quality to 1.6x sensors and nobody will complain that 18mp is not enough.

1+ stop better ISO than what?  And the 1DX quality sensor will never be in a 70D or 7D Mark II.
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Re: Will you be disappointed if the 70d gets the same 18mp sensor?
« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2013, 05:06:04 PM »
I want to know what this lovely community thinks about this matter!
I know I will be a bit disappointed, but don't get me wrong: I won't judge the camera just from its sensor. It can be a great DSLR no matter what sensor it will have..

It wouldn't be disappointing having 18mp, but being ''the same sensor'' YES, that would be DISAPPOINTING.
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Re: Will you be disappointed if the 70d gets the same 18mp sensor?
« Reply #12 on: March 24, 2013, 05:07:17 PM »
I just want to see a "next gen" sensor by Canon though. Something that will be on par with Sony/Oly sensors.

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Re: Will you be disappointed if the 70d gets the same 18mp sensor?
« Reply #12 on: March 24, 2013, 05:07:17 PM »

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Re: Will you be disappointed if the 70d gets the same 18mp sensor?
« Reply #13 on: March 24, 2013, 05:09:51 PM »
I won't be disappointed if the 70D gets the 'old' sensor, but I will be disappointed if the 7DII doesn't get a meaningfully improved sensor.

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Re: Will you be disappointed if the 70d gets the same 18mp sensor?
« Reply #14 on: March 24, 2013, 05:11:48 PM »
1 stop ISO improvement is hardly possible. Maybe 1/2 or 1/3 stop. What would, however, be possible are 3 stops in dynamic range at ISO 100. What would also be possible is to significantly increase the number of pixels without losing sensitivity after downscaling.

Therefore the safest bet is a higher megapixel sensor with slightly more noise and the same dynamic range after downscaling. Sad but true.

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Re: Will you be disappointed if the 70d gets the same 18mp sensor?
« Reply #14 on: March 24, 2013, 05:11:48 PM »