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Re: New 100-400 to Launch with EOS 7D Mark II [CR2]
« Reply #15 on: March 27, 2013, 09:17:09 AM »
If true, then it's time to buy the current 100-400mm, if you value your wallet!

Judging by the price of the new Nikon, the replacement will be cost twice as much for a modest boost in wide open performance, an extra stop or two of IS and probably a conventional zoom ring design. 

Some will value these enough to part with an extra grand...

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Re: New 100-400 to Launch with EOS 7D Mark II [CR2]
« Reply #15 on: March 27, 2013, 09:17:09 AM »

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Re: New 100-400 to Launch with EOS 7D Mark II [CR2]
« Reply #16 on: March 27, 2013, 09:17:43 AM »


Will the rumored 7D come with a new kit lens?

Highly doubt it, it's way to expensive and heavy to become a kit lens

Ha that was my thought, 100-400 kit lens. I want this to happen!!


No, not the 100-400 as a kit, but a new lens otherwise.

Lol oops misread that, well I will take a 7d2 with a 100-400 II then! There's my kit.
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Re: New 100-400 to Launch with EOS 7D Mark II [CR2]
« Reply #17 on: March 27, 2013, 09:19:29 AM »
A new 100-400 L is probably the single lens release I covet the most.  I use the current version extensively but would love to see 2 more stops of IS, faster AF, and slightly better optics.

What I am concerned about is the front thread size.  I am hoping they stay at 77 mm, but I have a feeling they will go to 82 mm.  Of course, if you are spending $2,500-$3,000 on a lens, what's a couple more hundred in filters.   ;)
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Re: New 100-400 to Launch with EOS 7D Mark II [CR2]
« Reply #18 on: March 27, 2013, 09:21:45 AM »
100-400 F4 without 1.4 extender, Would be a good alternative to the 200-400 maybe half the cost?
Same constant aperture, and a 4x zoom range instead of 2x for half the cost? A built in TC doesn't account for that much of the cost!

A replacement 100-400 will not be f4 at the long end, unless its bigger and more expensive than the still missing 200-400. There's a need for a lens the size/weight/price/focal length range of the existing 100-400. That means any replacement will be f5.6 at the long end.

(The price will be about double the existing model  :-\)
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Re: New 100-400 to Launch with EOS 7D Mark II [CR2]
« Reply #19 on: March 27, 2013, 09:27:15 AM »
I'll get excited about this lens when it is available for purchase - until then I'm burnt out on annoucements, pre-annoucements, etc with no definitive delivery dates.  It reminds me of google and their perpetual beta software.  I'm sure this lens will amaze when available.

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Re: New 100-400 to Launch with EOS 7D Mark II [CR2]
« Reply #20 on: March 27, 2013, 09:29:18 AM »
A new 100-400 L is probably the single lens I am most excited about.  I use the current version extensively but would love to see 2 more stops of IS, faster AF, and slightly better optics.

Agree completely but want it to NOT be push-pull. Push-pull zoom lenses were a great idea in the days of manual focus, when push-pull was to zoom and rotate was to focus.

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Re: New 100-400 to Launch with EOS 7D Mark II [CR2]
« Reply #21 on: March 27, 2013, 09:30:36 AM »
100-400 F4 without 1.4 extender, Would be a good alternative to the 200-400 maybe half the cost?
Same constant aperture, and a 4x zoom range instead of 2x for half the cost? A built in TC doesn't account for that much of the cost!

A replacement 100-400 will not be f4 at the long end, unless its bigger and more expensive than the still missing 200-400. There's a need for a lens the size/weight/price/focal length range of the existing 100-400. That means any replacement will be f5.6 at the long end.

(The price will be about double the existing model  :-\)

Lol you're right half the price of a lens that's not available for sale for another that's just rumored is just silly thinking. Of course a built in teleconverter doesn't make much of a difference in price of a lens and there's probably not much extra engineering involved!   :P maybe they will release a 100-400 NON L lens like when they had the 100-300s
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Re: New 100-400 to Launch with EOS 7D Mark II [CR2]
« Reply #21 on: March 27, 2013, 09:30:36 AM »

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Re: New 100-400 to Launch with EOS 7D Mark II [CR2]
« Reply #22 on: March 27, 2013, 09:35:06 AM »
A new 100-400 L is probably the single lens I am most excited about.  I use the current version extensively but would love to see 2 more stops of IS, faster AF, and slightly better optics.

Agree completely but want it to NOT be push-pull. Push-pull zoom lenses were a great idea in the days of manual focus, when push-pull was to zoom and rotate was to focus.

How about a 100-400 with internal zoom like a 70-200. That would be sweet!
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Re: New 100-400 to Launch with EOS 7D Mark II [CR2]
« Reply #23 on: March 27, 2013, 09:37:27 AM »
I might go with Sigma 120-300 f2.8 this time. I''m willing to loose 100mm in reach, but gain more x2plus amount of light for indoor shots. I can always crop in PP since I'm only shoot raw. ;)
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Re: New 100-400 to Launch with EOS 7D Mark II [CR2]
« Reply #24 on: March 27, 2013, 09:39:44 AM »
I might go with Sigma 120-300 f2.8 this time. I''m willing to loose the 100mm in reach, but gain more in light for indoor shots. I can always crop in PP since I'm only shoot raw. ;)

Is that lens supposed to be pretty good? I really haven't used sigma lenses. I wonder how well it would take a tele converter?
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Re: New 100-400 to Launch with EOS 7D Mark II [CR2]
« Reply #25 on: March 27, 2013, 09:41:06 AM »
Love my 100-400, would appreciate better IS, full sealing, and optical improvements. If it's as sharp as the 70-300L, awesome.  Hope they keep push-pull, but could learn to live with rotating extension.

Expensive, yes it will be.  But probably worth it.

100-400 F4 without 1.4 extender, Would be a good alternative to the 200-400 maybe half the cost?

Ha ha ha.  100-400mm f/4 means the same front element size as the 200/2, 400/4, 200-400/4, etc.  Would be a $7K lens easy.  Get off this, folks, it'll be f/5.6 at the long end, and likely close to $3K at that.

Yes, I'm with neuro on this..... :)

I have used Canon's existing 100-400mm L, and it can be a great lens. The newer 70-300mm L is definitely a design & size I prefer (and it's IQ is consistently better). Personally I prefer rotating ring zoom rather than push-pull, but I could get used to push-pull too.

I really love my Canon 70-300mm L on my 7D.  And I'm sure that a new (improved) 100-400mm L with a 7DmkII would be a welcome 'tele kit' for many. However the new / rumoured 100-400mm couldn't be a constant f/4 without being huge, expensive, etc... and I expect -  Canon have the 200-400mm f/4 1.4x as a separate target  lens.

Looking forward to this CR2 becoming a CR3... especially to see what the 7DmkII will bring! (Improved IS and if possible better AF, within still 'non-pro budget' for the 100-400mm will see some good sales, I expect).

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Re: New 100-400 to Launch with EOS 7D Mark II [CR2]
« Reply #26 on: March 27, 2013, 09:50:33 AM »
Ha ha ha.  100-400mm f/4 means the same front element size as the 200/2, 400/4, 200-400/4, etc.  Would be a $7K lens easy.  Get off this, folks, it'll be f/5.6 at the long end, and likely close to $3K at that.

(...) isn't that why canon makes those primes? (...)

No, it is actually by definition: max. focal length divided by min. aperture is min. lens diameter. 400mm/4.0=100mm. An anything-400/f4.0 will most always have a 100mm (or thereabouts) front element. No ifs and buts and marketing about it.
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« Reply #27 on: March 27, 2013, 09:50:58 AM »
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Sounds like the right time to sell my 100-400!
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Re: New 100-400 to Launch with EOS 7D Mark II [CR2]
« Reply #28 on: March 27, 2013, 09:54:20 AM »
If true, then it's time to buy the current 100-400mm, if you value your wallet!

Judging by the price of the new Nikon, the replacement will be cost twice as much for a modest boost in wide open performance, an extra stop or two of IS and probably a conventional zoom ring design. 

Some will value these enough to part with an extra grand...

Much faster AF would allow shooting BIFs which currently requires the 400mm f5.6 prime.  A zoom that can have the benefits of the old prime, better IQ, 4 stop OIS and the flexibility of a zoom would make it worthwhile for many. 

Nikon now has a lower cost body (D7100) that can also act as a reasonably good birding body.  I just hope Canon improves the AF on the 70D as the 7DII will be much higher priced. 

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Re: New 100-400 to Launch with EOS 7D Mark II [CR2]
« Reply #29 on: March 27, 2013, 09:56:41 AM »
About time. And I am looking forward to a new 100-400.   Seriously hope it is not push pull to focus.   If the can make it small like the 70-300L that would great.  Definitely would not be a constant F4.  Front element would need to be close to 100 mm (100mm filters).   But will they switch the zoom and focusing knobs like the 70-300 L?

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Re: New 100-400 to Launch with EOS 7D Mark II [CR2]
« Reply #29 on: March 27, 2013, 09:56:41 AM »