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Re: New 100-400 to Launch with EOS 7D Mark II [CR2]
« Reply #30 on: March 27, 2013, 09:58:20 AM »
I'm sure an upgrade on this lens will be a big seller, but for someone who has a 400 5.6 prime, I'm not excited.
Canon are missing a proper upgrade path from the already existing 400 f5.6s. A £4500 400mm F4 prime with 4 stop IS, lighter than 300 2.8 as a replacement for the DO would fill that gap nicely, and be a excellent match to the new 7D if it turns out to be a mini IDX. I could get excited about that.

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Re: New 100-400 to Launch with EOS 7D Mark II [CR2]
« Reply #31 on: March 27, 2013, 09:58:54 AM »
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Sounds like the right time to sell my 100-400!

Maybe a little offtopic, but I saw your signature ("leave the fish alone!") and had to think of the one time a played with a 100-400, last fall. Great lens, if a little heavy. I'd like the next one to not be push-pull too, by the way.

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Re: New 100-400 to Launch with EOS 7D Mark II [CR2]
« Reply #32 on: March 27, 2013, 10:13:22 AM »
If it's as sharp as the 70-300L, awesome. 


I hope they don't downgrade the performance that much - it would be a deal-breaker for me.
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« Reply #33 on: March 27, 2013, 10:17:50 AM »
No, not the 100-400 as a kit, but a new lens otherwise.
Well, they just updated the 18-55 and 18-135 lenses within the last year; maybe they'll do the 18-200 too, who knows. And they already have a good 17-55 and 15-85, not to mention a 24-105 that works well on crop. Not sure what kit lens they could put out that they don't already offer.

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Sounds like the right time to sell my 100-400!
Well, if it's at all like the release of the 24-70, then prices will actually go up for a few months. Heck, used prices on the mk.1 version went up $3-400 for a while, and they are still higher than they were before the mk.2 release

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Re: New 100-400 to Launch with EOS 7D Mark II [CR2]
« Reply #34 on: March 27, 2013, 10:21:41 AM »
I'm sure an upgrade on this lens will be a big seller, but for someone who has a 400 5.6 prime, I'm not excited.
Canon are missing a proper upgrade path from the already existing 400 f5.6s. A £4500 400mm F4 prime with 4 stop IS, lighter than 300 2.8 as a replacement for the DO would fill that gap nicely, and be a excellent match to the new 7D if it turns out to be a mini IDX. I could get excited about that.

So agree! Wish the 400f4 DO wasn't so pricy.
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Re: New 100-400 to Launch with EOS 7D Mark II [CR2]
« Reply #35 on: March 27, 2013, 10:29:33 AM »
If it's as sharp as the 70-300L, awesome. 


I hope they don't downgrade the performance that much - it would be a deal-breaker for me.

I hope that comment was facetious.  The 70-300L is optically superior to the current 100-400L in every way
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Re: New 100-400 to Launch with EOS 7D Mark II [CR2]
« Reply #36 on: March 27, 2013, 10:41:48 AM »
Sounds like the right time to sell my 100-400!
Well, if it's at all like the release of the 24-70, then prices will actually go up for a few months. Heck, used prices on the mk.1 version went up $3-400 for a while, and they are still higher than they were before the mk.2 release

Agreed.  They're going for $1000 or so locally for me, and a $2.5-3K MkII will very likely drive that price up a bit.  Certainly happened with the 24-70 and 70-200/2.8 IS when the MkII versions came out.
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Re: New 100-400 to Launch with EOS 7D Mark II [CR2]
« Reply #37 on: March 27, 2013, 10:45:23 AM »
If it's as sharp as the 70-300L, awesome. 


I hope they don't downgrade the performance that much - it would be a deal-breaker for me.

I hope that comment was facetious.  The 70-300L is optically superior to the current 100-400L in every way

Agreed, I sold my 100-400 for the 70-300L and have no regrets at all.  Much better lens. 

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Re: New 100-400 to Launch with EOS 7D Mark II [CR2]
« Reply #38 on: March 27, 2013, 10:51:04 AM »
With no date when the much delayed 200-400/4 will reach the shops I just don't believe this latest 100-400L rumour.

It would be bad marketing tactics if both zooms were launched in the same year!

On the other hand it could mean 100-400L/7D2 might not be out there till late 2014 or even 2015 to let sales of the 200-400 get some traction assuming its coming out soon.

I am saying this is because the current 100-400L is a fine zoom optic and a new version - presumably even better - would seriously cut into the sales of the 200-400 - yep one stop faster but twice the weight and three/four times the price!

But then maybe Canon expect some customers with deep pockets to buy both zooms!


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Re: New 100-400 to Launch with EOS 7D Mark II [CR2]
« Reply #39 on: March 27, 2013, 10:55:58 AM »
No, not the 100-400 as a kit, but a new lens otherwise.
Well, they just updated the 18-55 and 18-135 lenses within the last year; maybe they'll do the 18-200 too, who knows. And they already have a good 17-55 and 15-85, not to mention a 24-105 that works well on crop. Not sure what kit lens they could put out that they don't already offer.


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Re: New 100-400 to Launch with EOS 7D Mark II [CR2]
« Reply #40 on: March 27, 2013, 10:59:21 AM »
No, not the 100-400 as a kit, but a new lens otherwise.
Well, they just updated the 18-55 and 18-135 lenses within the last year; maybe they'll do the 18-200 too, who knows. And they already have a good 17-55 and 15-85, not to mention a 24-105 that works well on crop. Not sure what kit lens they could put out that they don't already offer.


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Re: New 100-400 to Launch with EOS 7D Mark II [CR2]
« Reply #41 on: March 27, 2013, 11:02:29 AM »
I am saying this is because the current 100-400L is a fine zoom optic and a new version - presumably even better - would seriously cut into the sales of the 200-400 - yep one stop faster but twice the weight and three/four times the price!

I can't see how a £2.5K lens and a £10.5K are in the same market. I have a 400mm f2.8 LIS....and I would love a 100-400 mkII lens. It fulfills a completely different role to my other 400mm lens. It's be smaller, lighter, handholdable, occasional...in fact it might even replace my 70-200 f2.8 LIS II.

The big 400 is for images were I have the time to set it up and I need to melt backgrounds. The 100-400 would be where I need a really versatile and neat long zoom.

The current 75-300 LIS is a fine lens, great optics and build like a tank. I hope this new 100-400 is designed to the same if not better standards. It's a pity that this new lens isn't a 70-400, it would work well as a 2 lens combo with the new 24-70 f4 LIS. The 24-105 LIS is a little old and needs an update.

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Re: New 100-400 to Launch with EOS 7D Mark II [CR2]
« Reply #42 on: March 27, 2013, 11:07:10 AM »
Love my 100-400, would appreciate better IS, full sealing, and optical improvements. If it's as sharp as the 70-300L, awesome.  Hope they keep push-pull, but could learn to live with rotating extension.

Expensive, yes it will be.  But probably worth it.

100-400 F4 without 1.4 extender, Would be a good alternative to the 200-400 maybe half the cost?

Ha ha ha.  100-400mm f/4 means the same front element size as the 200/2, 400/4, 200-400/4, etc.  Would be a $7K lens easy.  Get off this, folks, it'll be f/5.6 at the long end, and likely close to $3K at that.

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Re: New 100-400 to Launch with EOS 7D Mark II [CR2]
« Reply #43 on: March 27, 2013, 11:12:54 AM »
If it's as sharp as the 70-300L, awesome. 


I hope they don't downgrade the performance that much - it would be a deal-breaker for me.

I hope that comment was facetious.  The 70-300L is optically superior to the current 100-400L in every way

Agreed, I sold my 100-400 for the 70-300L and have no regrets at all.  Much better lens. 

In every way?  Is the 70-300L optically superior at 400mm?   ::)  Personally, I need 400mm (often more, which is why I bought the 600L II).  The 70-300L would be a poor replacement for my 100-400L. 
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Re: New 100-400 to Launch with EOS 7D Mark II [CR2]
« Reply #44 on: March 27, 2013, 11:18:34 AM »
Am I the only one that loves the push/pull zoom?

I find it great for football (american, but both would probably apply; as well as any other large field games, rugby, polo, baseball, etc.), you can see nearly the whole field at 100mm to scan for interesting action, and almost instantly be at 400mm to get in to the action.  If you're constantly going from one end of the range to the other, it's much faster with the push/pull.

The push/pull was much less useful, but in no way a hindrance, for things where I was staying at the same focal length for long periods of time; like when I shot a "Dirty Girl" mud run.

Would I want all zooms to be like that?  Absolutely not!  But I do think the 100-400 and it's common uses lend themselves to the more expedient, brute force method, that the push/pull provides.

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