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How to spend money
« on: March 27, 2013, 01:10:33 PM »
I know this question has been asked many times already, but I would like to hear a new answer :)

I currently have a 7D and some (mostly L-) glass (8-15, 16-35, 50 f/1.4, 100 f/2.8 macro, 24-70, 70-200f/2.8 IS, 2xIII). I am a hobbyist with enough money to spare to get these lenses 2nd hand (I was very happy to see that this in the end almost comes cheaper than getting lower-quality lenses AND gives you higher satisfaction... If you have enough money on the side :) ), and in some cases new.
I mostly take pics of moving things (sports, children, animals - BIF in particular), but also portraits and stills at times. I sell nothing, but I obviously like the highest possible quality.

So here is my question: Assume I have up to 10k that are just sitting on the bank and I want to invest into photo gear, what would you do with it?

Basically I have two problems:
I really want a 1DX. It is total overkill, and I would only use some of the features - I know that. But I really want the AF system (the 7D is somewhat limited for my use), I like the speed, the high ISO, FF, etc., etc.
And I had rented a 300 f/2.8 IS II a couple of times and was blown out of my pants by the IQ and focusing speed of this thing. I would never have expected a lens to be so good, and I finally understood why people are willing to pay that much for glass. And now I want one. :(

The solutions would be
1. get a 1DX and be happy with it. That leaves money to either buy a used 300 f/2.8 IS Mark I, or to rent the Mark II for several weeks.
2. get the lens and be happy with the 7D.
3. get a 5Diii, admit that there is absolutely no need for 12 fps, and add a 300 f/4.0
4. save some more money and get a 400 f/2.8 IS II
5. keep the gear I have and get my wife a diamond ring (that she would hate, actually)

I look forward to your opinions.


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Re: How to spend money
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2013, 01:22:49 PM »
6. Save your money instead of looking for ways to spend it.

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« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2013, 01:23:30 PM »
How about a 5DIII and a 300/2.8L IS II?   :)
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« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2013, 01:26:12 PM »
How about a 5DIII and a 300/2.8L IS II?   :)

I would have to wait for used 300/2.8 IS II's to pop up I am afraid... :)

@Skirball that would be reasonable. I am all against that :)

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« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2013, 01:27:41 PM »
@Skirball that would be reasonable. I am all against that :)

I can tell.  Carry on, I'm sure you'll get a wealth of suggestions for which how to spend your money.

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« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2013, 01:29:45 PM »
@Skirball that would be reasonable. I am all against that :)

I can tell.  Carry on, I'm sure you'll get a wealth of suggestions for which how to spend your money.

That is what I am looking for - I am interested in hearing arguments and priorities. Not for advice on where and how to invest my money...

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« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2013, 01:45:13 PM »
Upgrade your body, 5d mkiii will probably do. You'll have improved image quality, and you'll love the AF system.
Then you can just save the left over money for when a 300 2.8 IS II turns up.

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« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2013, 01:47:22 PM »
What about getting a used 1D4 and a used 400 2.8? I love my 1D4 and am actually saving up myself to hopefully find a 2nd with a low shutter count. 

The other thing I would do is pick up a 300 or 400 f/2.8 (used or new) and then save up and hope that Canon brings out the 7D2 soon.  I am waiting to see what that will bring myself.  I am very attached to the 1D bodies but didn't like the way the 1Dx felt in my hands.

Glass will always last you longer than a body and wont become dated as quick.
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« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2013, 01:52:07 PM »
How about a 5DIII and a 300/2.8L IS II?   :)

I would have to wait for used 300/2.8 IS II's to pop up I am afraid... :)

But...

Assume I have up to 10k that are just sitting on the bank

5DIII: $2,949 (current 'price in cart', B&H)
300/2.8L IS II: $6,799 (B&H)

My rudimentary math puts the total at $9,748 (with free shipping), and I do believe that $9,748 < $10K.  So either my math is flawed, or you put forth a false assumption.  Just sayin'.   ;)
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« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2013, 01:53:19 PM »
Ha.  When I read the topic (subject line) of this thread, my immediate response was, "Wait, you're into photography and this is a problem?"  ;-)
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« Reply #10 on: March 27, 2013, 01:56:00 PM »
1DX would definitely be overkill unless you need it or you REALLLLLLLLLYYYY want it. I'd go with the 5DIII since you already have the 7D and a lovely set of lenses. The 300mm f/2.8 would be cool to have, but I'd probably hold off on that. I can't imagine the weight of your bag if you bring the 300 with the rest of your gear. I wouldn't be able to handle more than 2 bodies and 3-4 lenses, unless I had like a roller case. Maybe invest in a flash unit or two? You'll still have a handfull of money left over... enough for a vacation perhaps?

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« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2013, 01:58:34 PM »
How about a 5DIII and a 300/2.8L IS II?   :)

I would have to wait for used 300/2.8 IS II's to pop up I am afraid... :)

But...

Assume I have up to 10k that are just sitting on the bank

5DIII: $2,949 (current 'price in cart', B&H)
300/2.8L IS II: $6,799 (B&H)

My rudimentary math puts the total at $9,748 (with free shipping), and I do believe that $9,748 < $10K.  So either my math is flawed, or you put forth a false assumption.  Just sayin'.   ;)

Well spotted :) I was wondering if someone would point that out. The key is the "up to", and that I am not in the US but in Switzerland where the 5d iii (plus BG) goes for around 3.2k, and the 300/2.8 for 7.5k. I guess I should just come to the US and get it there...


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« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2013, 02:03:00 PM »
How about a 5DIII and a 300/2.8L IS II?   :)

+1

sounds like you want to splurge a little on the 1DX (which I think is totally fine if you have the money for it).  If you want an immediate upgrade, I think the mk3 would make you happy too....I'd get the mk3 and the 300 2.8 IS II and save up for a 1DX AS WELL!  =)  happy shopping.

btw, get the wife a little something that she would like while you're at it.
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« Reply #13 on: March 27, 2013, 02:09:56 PM »
1DX would definitely be overkill unless you need it or you REALLLLLLLLLYYYY want it. I'd go with the 5DIII since you already have the 7D and a lovely set of lenses. The 300mm f/2.8 would be cool to have, but I'd probably hold off on that. I can't imagine the weight of your bag if you bring the 300 with the rest of your gear. I wouldn't be able to handle more than 2 bodies and 3-4 lenses, unless I had like a roller case. Maybe invest in a flash unit or two? You'll still have a handfull of money left over... enough for a vacation perhaps?

I want the 1DX really baldy. But the same way I wanted a Tesla Roadster. I think you hit the nail on the head by saying that it would be cool to have - that holds for both the lens and the 1DX. But the lens would certainly be used considerably less than the camera (to complete that - I have taken 35k images on my 7D in the last 3 years - on any 1D body I would probably never get anywhere close to even warming the release mechanism...).
I imagine that in 3-4 years the 1DX can still be sold for over 3k (similar to the 1DIV when the 1DX came on the market), while the 5DIII will be at 1k. If I look at it like that then I would have spent 2-3k in both cases.

The 300/2.8 is heavy, but I took it on a 10h hike in the Swiss alps last summer (albeit an easy one), and I survived. But I only took the extender, the 24-70, and the 300.
The old 400/2.8 would be too heavy, though - and I can barely hand-hold that one for more than a minute...

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« Reply #14 on: March 27, 2013, 03:10:19 PM »
Unless there's something specific in the 1Dx, I'm another one for the 5DIII . . .

What are you running up against with the 7D AF that's problematic?  I've had little trouble with sports/dance with the 60D/5DmkII for AF/FPS, but I try to bring my real shooting skills to that to 'ambush' my shot.

I hear you on high-iso, my mkII really took my fear of away; I want a mkIII, but after I got news that my baby needs a new transmission yesterday, I will NOT be pushing my luck this year  :'(

I highly suspect the 7DII is going to be superior in some 'sports shooting' way the same way the 7D was over the 5DmkII/1Div . . . but you don't seem like you want to wait ;D
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