July 31, 2014, 10:42:02 PM

Author Topic: "I am boycotting Nikon" campaign  (Read 11555 times)

brad-man

  • 5D Mark III
  • ******
  • Posts: 684
    • View Profile
Re: "I am boycotting Nikon" campaign
« Reply #15 on: April 13, 2013, 11:23:03 AM »
Those are hogs, and hogs are numerous, and rather a nussance as well, but worse still often a threat to local endangered and threatened populations. I am totally against poaching of threatened species, and totally against wanton destruction. But, some animals NEED to be hunted by man, often especially because we displaced their predators through habitat destruction. Here in Florida, hogs are a severe nuisance, and the laws are actually pretty easy-going about the taking o' hogs. The poster says "Bring home the bacon", so the thought is not some Great White Hunter racking up tons of kills for trophies, but a productive use, potentially, anyway. THere is no reason to be so sensitive about this...

Quite so. I live in S Florida and we are overrun with harmful exotics. We have beautiful  lionfish ravaging our reefs, and all sorts of pythons taking over the Everglades. Both species are pretty much on the "kill on sight" list. Can I put a Nikon scope on a speargun? The diffraction of the water might compensate for the crappy optics...
« Last Edit: April 13, 2013, 11:25:36 AM by brad-man »

canon rumors FORUM

Re: "I am boycotting Nikon" campaign
« Reply #15 on: April 13, 2013, 11:23:03 AM »

Rienzphotoz

  • Canon EF 300mm f/2.8L IS II
  • *******
  • Posts: 3321
  • Peace unto all ye Canon, Nikon & Sony shooters
    • View Profile
Re: "I am boycotting Nikon" campaign
« Reply #16 on: April 13, 2013, 12:19:19 PM »
Ha ha ha, good one ... btw, when I started my earlier thread (on this same topic) I did not notice this topic was already posted ... sorry about that.
Canon 5DMK3 70D | Nikon D610 | Sony a7 a6000 | RX100M3 | 16-35/2.8LII | 70-200/2.8LISII | 100/2.8LIS | 100-400LIS | 40/2.8 | 50/1.4 | 85/1.8 | 600EX-RTx2 | ST-E3-RT | 24/3.5 T-S | 10-18/4 OSS 16-50 | 24-70/4OSS | 55/1.8 | 55-210 OSS | 70-200/4 OSS | 28-300VR | HVL-F43M | GoPro Black 3+ & DJI Phantom

junkwerks

  • Power Shot G16
  • **
  • Posts: 23
    • View Profile
Re: "I am boycotting Nikon" campaign
« Reply #17 on: April 13, 2013, 01:11:47 PM »
All purpose hunting tool.
http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/consumer/products/binoculars

Would be interesting to know the breakdown on sales to gun toter's (hunters and government ) vs. non-gun related activities. Canon probably has a good idea and won't release that information for good reason.

aroo

  • Rebel SL1
  • ***
  • Posts: 82
    • View Profile
Re: "I am boycotting Nikon" campaign
« Reply #18 on: April 13, 2013, 01:58:32 PM »
All the major optics companies have their roots in targeting animals... humans.

AprilForever

  • 5D Mark III
  • ******
  • Posts: 719
    • View Profile
    • AprilForever.com
Re: "I am boycotting Nikon" campaign
« Reply #19 on: April 13, 2013, 02:48:48 PM »
Those are hogs, and hogs are numerous, and rather a nussance as well, but worse still often a threat to local endangered and threatened populations. I am totally against poaching of threatened species, and totally against wanton destruction. But, some animals NEED to be hunted by man, often especially because we displaced their predators through habitat destruction. Here in Florida, hogs are a severe nuisance, and the laws are actually pretty easy-going about the taking o' hogs. The poster says "Bring home the bacon", so the thought is not some Great White Hunter racking up tons of kills for trophies, but a productive use, potentially, anyway. THere is no reason to be so sensitive about this...

Quite so. I live in S Florida and we are overrun with harmful exotics. We have beautiful  lionfish ravaging our reefs, and all sorts of pythons taking over the Everglades. Both species are pretty much on the "kill on sight" list. Can I put a Nikon scope on a speargun? The diffraction of the water might compensate for the crappy optics...

Indeed we are. Sadly, a scope would help none helping either... Always aim left with a Nikon scope!
What is truth?

paul13walnut5

  • Guest
Re: "I am boycotting Nikon" campaign
« Reply #20 on: April 13, 2013, 03:12:55 PM »
I won't be boycotting Nikon, mainly because I don't buy Nikon anyway.

If their scopes are anything like their lenses then you'll need a pocket book of caveats depending on the age of your gun..

The nikon f mount will work on any nikon slr.. except if you need aperture index, except if you need an AF motor, on an fx body but at 3mp etc etc etc.

It's a pretty nasty advert, but then it probably appeals to the mindset of the nasty people who shoot animals for fun (and I am clear to make the distinction between fun and necessary culls)

If canon made a similar advert or made a similar product would I boycott?  Probably not.  Theres all sorts of reasons to boycott all sorts of products.. some folk might boycott a japenese product because of their historical reluctance to accept and apologise for war crimes, some folk might boycott an israeli manufactured bag because they don't like the way the palestinians are treated.

I grew up in a lefty house, so nestle was barred at one point over the african baby milk powder, outspan over apartheid etc. but these companies are still in business.  I'm sure nikon will survive.  Despite recent attrocities recreational gun users don't seem to putting down their arms any time soon.

MrFotoFool

  • EOS M2
  • ****
  • Posts: 220
  • 5D mk3
    • View Profile
    • HoodFineArt
Re: "I am boycotting Nikon" campaign
« Reply #21 on: April 13, 2013, 04:32:57 PM »
I am not a hunter myself and do not see the attraction of it.  Nevertheless, properly regulated hunting can bring in lots of money for conservation.  And the statements above about feral hogs - which are non-native invasives - are certainly true.  The boycott is ridiculous.

canon rumors FORUM

Re: "I am boycotting Nikon" campaign
« Reply #21 on: April 13, 2013, 04:32:57 PM »

ewg963

  • Canon 70D
  • ****
  • Posts: 250
    • View Profile
Re: "I am boycotting Nikon" campaign
« Reply #22 on: April 13, 2013, 05:01:36 PM »
Those are hogs, and hogs are numerous, and rather a nussance as well, but worse still often a threat to local endangered and threatened populations. I am totally against poaching of threatened species, and totally against wanton destruction. But, some animals NEED to be hunted by man, often especially because we displaced their predators through habitat destruction. Here in Florida, hogs are a severe nuisance, and the laws are actually pretty easy-going about the taking o' hogs. The poster says "Bring home the bacon", so the thought is not some Great White Hunter racking up tons of kills for trophies, but a productive use, potentially, anyway. THere is no reason to be so sensitive about this...
+1
5D Mark III, 5D Mark II, 24-105mm 70-200mm 2.8 Non IS, 100-400mm 50mm 1.4, 85mm 1.8, 580EX II, 600EX-RT

RGF

  • 1D X
  • *******
  • Posts: 1237
  • How you relate to the issue, is the issue.
    • View Profile
Re: "I am boycotting Nikon" campaign
« Reply #23 on: April 13, 2013, 05:25:58 PM »
Thanks for the heads up.

To me, so what - This may cause a few fringe anti-hunters to boycott Nikon and possibly even more sane people to buy it. 

Whole thing is stupid if you ask me (which you did not).  Hunting is a personal choice, hunting endangered is criminal but not a reason to boycott the make of the rifle scope.  Would you boycott a keyboard manufacturer because some people who use the keyboard are hackers???

mrsfotografie

  • 1D X
  • *******
  • Posts: 1246
  • M.R.S. = my initials! www.mrsfotografie.nl
    • View Profile
    • MRS fotografie
Re: "I am boycotting Nikon" campaign
« Reply #24 on: April 14, 2013, 04:38:47 AM »
The diffraction of the water might compensate for the crappy optics...

I don't think it's fair to bash Nikon's optical know-how like that, they have some stunning optics. A friend of mine has the 200-400, oh how I wish that would be a Canon.
5D3, 5D2, NEX-6 | SY14mm f/2.8, Ʃ20mm f/1.8, 24mm f/2.8, 35mm f/2, Ʃ35mm f/1.4A, 50mm f/1.8 I, Ʃ50mm f/1.4 EX, 100mm f/2.8L Macro, 17-40L, 24-105L, 70-200 f/2.8L IS II, 1.4x II, 70-300L, 100-400L | E-mount: SY12mm f/2, Ʃ19mm & 30mm f/2.8 EX DN, 16-50 & 55-210 OSS | 2x FT-QL, AE-1P, FD(n) & FL primes


Marsu42

  • Canon EF 400mm f/2.8L IS II
  • *******
  • Posts: 4360
  • ML-66d / 100L / 70-300L / 17-40L / 600rts
    • View Profile
    • 6D positive spec list
Re: "I am boycotting Nikon" campaign
« Reply #26 on: April 14, 2013, 07:48:24 AM »
so what they make scopes....


As always, animal rights activists seem to live on another planet and completely fail to connect to the rest of the world, but certainly the us american public. After all arms manufacturers don't kill, and gun's don't either, it's the people that use them, so if people abuse automatic weapons or scopes it's certainly only the fault of a small minority? But well, here's probably not the place to discuss that in depth.

Anyway, the issue of some with Nikon is that they the lack of differentiation between shooting for re-balancing the wildlife after human impact or general sports hunting of non-endangered species and trophy hunting that is a factor in severely diminishing some animal species in africa (but they sponsor trophy safaris), for example see http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/nature/the-wrong-kind-of-photo-shoot-nikon-in-the-line-of-fire-over-rifle-sights-for-big-game-hunting-8556123.html

But for some reason or another Nikon doesn't seem to be entirely unaffected by the pressure - they recently re-designed their arms website to exclude shots of happy hunters standing in 19s century pose above capital prey and renamed it from "Nikon Hunting" to "Nikon Sport Optics".

m

  • EOS M2
  • ****
  • Posts: 153
    • View Profile
Re: "I am boycotting Nikon" campaign
« Reply #27 on: April 14, 2013, 09:15:25 AM »
renamed it from "Nikon Hunting" to "Nikon Sport Optics".

Leica also calls it "sport optics".

canon rumors FORUM

Re: "I am boycotting Nikon" campaign
« Reply #27 on: April 14, 2013, 09:15:25 AM »

mrsfotografie

  • 1D X
  • *******
  • Posts: 1246
  • M.R.S. = my initials! www.mrsfotografie.nl
    • View Profile
    • MRS fotografie
Re: "I am boycotting Nikon" campaign
« Reply #28 on: April 14, 2013, 10:47:58 AM »
It just occurred to me: maybe we should all go out and buy Nikon camera's, increasing Nikon revenue so much they can close shop on the hunting sights  ;D
5D3, 5D2, NEX-6 | SY14mm f/2.8, Ʃ20mm f/1.8, 24mm f/2.8, 35mm f/2, Ʃ35mm f/1.4A, 50mm f/1.8 I, Ʃ50mm f/1.4 EX, 100mm f/2.8L Macro, 17-40L, 24-105L, 70-200 f/2.8L IS II, 1.4x II, 70-300L, 100-400L | E-mount: SY12mm f/2, Ʃ19mm & 30mm f/2.8 EX DN, 16-50 & 55-210 OSS | 2x FT-QL, AE-1P, FD(n) & FL primes

insanitybeard

  • Canon 70D
  • ****
  • Posts: 288
    • View Profile
Re: "I am boycotting Nikon" campaign
« Reply #29 on: April 15, 2013, 05:22:15 AM »
.
I'm boycotting all these imaging companies. They make infernal machines that steal your soul!

My belief is that corporations have essentially completed their takeover of the world. They will make minor adjustments responding to niggling little complaints like this to keep sales at full tilt. Beyond that, we and they are on a path to destroy this planet. Since I can't stop it, I plan to enjoy the ride into the pits of hell.

Ain't that the truth. Very true Sir, very eloquent.  :'(
7D / EF-S 10-22 / 17-40L / 70-200 f4L IS / EF-S 60 macro

canon rumors FORUM

Re: "I am boycotting Nikon" campaign
« Reply #29 on: April 15, 2013, 05:22:15 AM »