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Re: Canon Announcements on April 23, 2013? [CR2]
« Reply #45 on: April 07, 2013, 08:22:47 PM »
I don't think many people choose a camera based on the company's sales or profit - have yet to see that included on the camera's spec sheet....................


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Re: Canon Announcements on April 23, 2013? [CR2]
« Reply #45 on: April 07, 2013, 08:22:47 PM »

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Re: Canon Announcements on April 23, 2013? [CR2]
« Reply #46 on: April 07, 2013, 08:40:07 PM »
If I were to guess, Canon doesn't make or market every one of their cameras to every consumer. They probably don't expect a 60D user to replace their camera with a 70D. If anything, a 60D user should be happy the advancements are only "minor" from one body to the next. I'm happy to not be tempted to spend more money. Why would you wan to upgrade every release? They "need" to make the annual upgrades to keep with their tech advancements.


But that is exactly the reason that has most people on this forum up in arms, they AREN'T keeping up with advancements in new technology, they are simply rereleasing the same camera over and over again in different configurations. The average consumer may not notice or even care, but we dedicated shooters and die hard Canon fans do!
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Re: Canon Announcements on April 23, 2013? [CR2]
« Reply #47 on: April 07, 2013, 09:03:47 PM »
This will probably turn out to be true.
7D Mark II will definitely have to wait...

Probably so. If they had the new sensor line ready we'd probably see the 7D2 and high MP cam now (honestly, I hope it even ready by the time for those late this year). Then can come out with an 80D early next year with the new line sensor and get some to double dip.

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Re: Canon Announcements on April 23, 2013? [CR2]
« Reply #48 on: April 07, 2013, 09:11:22 PM »
stop announcing any stupid news from canon....really rumors at all..

Says the fool complaining about rumors being posted on a website called CanonRumors.

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Re: Canon Announcements on April 23, 2013? [CR2]
« Reply #49 on: April 07, 2013, 09:42:16 PM »
I'm hoping for a new 1D something or other so that the price of the 1DX gets cut in half :)

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Re: Canon Announcements on April 23, 2013? [CR2]
« Reply #50 on: April 07, 2013, 09:46:33 PM »
But that is exactly the reason that has most people on this forum up in arms, they AREN'T keeping up with advancements in new technology, they are simply rereleasing the same camera over and over again in different configurations. The average consumer may not notice or even care, but we dedicated shooters and die hard Canon fans do!

Fine. But, 'we dedicated shooters and die hard Canon fans' make up an infinitesimal fraction of their market. The vast majority of dSLR buyers are 'average consumers'.
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Re: Canon Announcements on April 23, 2013? [CR2]
« Reply #51 on: April 07, 2013, 09:48:40 PM »
Guys, I'll probably ask a very naive and somewhat a silly question... What exactly is the difference between different generations of Canon sensors? I mean, let's say Canon 5d ii and iii share the same sensor (correct?) however 5d iii overall has a better signal/noise ratio. That means that the improvements in the image quality do not necessarily require a new sensor technology? So, why do we all want Canon to have a new generation of sensors in their DSLR? Just curios  :)

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Re: Canon Announcements on April 23, 2013? [CR2]
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Re: Canon Announcements on April 23, 2013? [CR2]
« Reply #52 on: April 07, 2013, 10:05:54 PM »

they are a market leader because they once deserved it, they could and should be running away with it not merely just a bit ahead


Sad but true. Looking at the Amazon top 10 sellers, there are 6 Canons, 4 of which are Rebels. So Canon must be pretty happy despite incremental feature upgrades the Rebels sell great. I still have the T2i and since I just do portraits and some office events I really didn't feel there are enough improvement to "upgrade" to any of the other crop bodies. I really don't mind if they don't get more megapixels but better DR and ISO performance would be most welcome if the 70d gets the same 18mp count. So hoping the 70d would be worth it.


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Re: Canon Announcements on April 23, 2013? [CR2]
« Reply #53 on: April 07, 2013, 10:13:39 PM »
But that is exactly the reason that has most people on this forum up in arms, they AREN'T keeping up with advancements in new technology, they are simply rereleasing the same camera over and over again in different configurations. The average consumer may not notice or even care, but we dedicated shooters and die hard Canon fans do!

Fine. But, 'we dedicated shooters and die hard Canon fans' make up an infinitesimal fraction of their market. The vast majority of dSLR buyers are 'average consumers'.

And last week one of them came to me for advice on which camera to buy, saying all their friends had Canon. My recommendation? Nikon, followed by showing him DxO's evaluation of the Canon vs Nikon cameras and telling him to visit some stores and try them both. He bought Nikon. I just can't in all honesty recommend Canon DSLRs to anyone.

Did you call Canon and tell them your story?   I'm sure it would have a profound impact on their corporate strategy.   ::)

FWIW (which, frankly, is just about the same as your story is worth), I can in all honesty recommend Canon dSLRs to people, because 1) there's much more to camera performance than DxO measures, 2) lenses are far more important than bodies and Canon has the upper hand there.
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Re: Canon Announcements on April 23, 2013? [CR2]
« Reply #54 on: April 07, 2013, 10:24:51 PM »
I fell for the hype and bought a Nikon D800.  It was a nice camera, but, the 24-70mm G. Nikon's top of the line lens was a disaster.  Even now, only a very few lenses can get the best of the D800, and, they are third party lenses, or prime lenses.
The big problem came with the lack of performance in extreme low light.  It wasn't bad, just a little worse than the 5D MK III.  Live View was another shortcoming, a poor implementation.
 
Since the big bucks is investments in lenses, I decided that paying more for less was not really the way to go.
 
I likely would never consider getting a nother high mp body unless it actually delivers enough more when coupled with a lens..

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Re: Canon Announcements on April 23, 2013? [CR2]
« Reply #55 on: April 07, 2013, 10:25:42 PM »
BOOOORING ... don't care at all for a 70D. Would be much more interested in a hi-end Canon mirrorless .. EOS-M "done right" ... :-)
I have to agree with this. A 70D is just another cropster.

I hope the announcement is about the long awaited high MP / high DR body, or a bunch of new lenses. Like the 35L II, 50L II, 50 1.4 II, 135L II, 14-24L, e.t.c.
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Re: Canon Announcements on April 23, 2013? [CR2]
« Reply #56 on: April 08, 2013, 01:10:54 AM »
There will be no big megapixel announcement in april.

First Canon has to replace some lenses like the EF 16-35 II L, the EF 17-40 L ...

Both lenses don´t work pretty with the big megapixel prototypes.

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Re: Canon Announcements on April 23, 2013? [CR2]
« Reply #57 on: April 08, 2013, 01:12:30 AM »
There will be no big megapixel announcement in april.

First Canon has to replace some lenses like the EF 16-35 II L, the EF 17-40 L ...

Both lenses don´t work pretty with the big megapixel prototypes.

i'd be interested in the new 16-35 !
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Re: Canon Announcements on April 23, 2013? [CR2]
« Reply #57 on: April 08, 2013, 01:12:30 AM »

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Re: Canon Announcements on April 23, 2013? [CR2]
« Reply #58 on: April 08, 2013, 01:31:39 AM »
Guys, I'll probably ask a very naive and somewhat a silly question... What exactly is the difference between different generations of Canon sensors? I mean, let's say Canon 5d ii and iii share the same sensor (correct?) however 5d iii overall has a better signal/noise ratio. That means that the improvements in the image quality do not necessarily require a new sensor technology? So, why do we all want Canon to have a new generation of sensors in their DSLR? Just curios  :)

It is nothing but a bunch of gearhead whiners crying because "theirs" ain't the biggest this week.  Ask yourself this:  have you ever been able to walk through a gallery and point out which camera shot which photo?  If the stuff was as bad as some of these idiots claim, nobody would use it.

Something else you might want to ask yourself:  If this Sony technology is such a "game changer" why hasn't the game changed?  Where are the stunning examples of what can be done?  Why do we continue to see shots of the back of lens caps, mediocre landscape shots with shadows lifted 5 stops just to prove a point?  Where are the game changing photographs from this so-called game changing technology?

If this represents such a huge advance in the state of the art of making art, where the heck is the art?  Galeries won't hang your DxO curves.
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Re: Canon Announcements on April 23, 2013? [CR2]
« Reply #59 on: April 08, 2013, 01:33:55 AM »
Looks like BMCC and Sony are the first out of the gates with announcements.



http://www.eoshd.com/content/10004/sony-show-cinema-eos-style-future-camera-range-based-around-full-frame-dslrs

Canon had better not disappoint.
If not any "new" tech at least a price drop to match the competition?
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Re: Canon Announcements on April 23, 2013? [CR2]
« Reply #59 on: April 08, 2013, 01:33:55 AM »