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Re: Is it too late to buy a Canon 7D?
« Reply #15 on: April 09, 2013, 03:46:11 PM »
i have come to learn that the 7D has an appetite for good glass
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Re: Is it too late to buy a Canon 7D?
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Re: Is it too late to buy a Canon 7D?
« Reply #16 on: April 09, 2013, 04:52:21 PM »
Is it too late to buy a 7D?  No.  If the camera meets your needs it is never too late.  The 7D is a great camera.  Is something better about to come out?  Who knows.  The announcement could be a 70D, a 7DII, or something else.

My point is simple, buy what meets your needs at the time and don't look back. 

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Re: Is it too late to buy a Canon 7D?
« Reply #17 on: April 09, 2013, 06:51:44 PM »
My point is simple, buy what meets your needs at the time and don't look back.

i love this quote...

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Re: Is it too late to buy a Canon 7D?
« Reply #18 on: April 09, 2013, 07:45:22 PM »
I also fully expect the 7d mark ii to be approximately 3x the current price of the 7d.

Buy one now. Don't hesitate. And besides, the mark ii could be a longer wait yet than we realise, who knows. But either way, we're going to be paying for it!
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Re: Is it too late to buy a Canon 7D?
« Reply #19 on: April 09, 2013, 08:59:21 PM »
Is it too late to buy a 7D?  No.  If the camera meets your needs it is never too late.  The 7D is a great camera.  Is something better about to come out?  Who knows.  The announcement could be a 70D, a 7DII, or something else.

My point is simple, buy what meets your needs at the time and don't look back.

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Re: Is it too late to buy a Canon 7D?
« Reply #20 on: April 09, 2013, 11:25:01 PM »
Thanks everyone for your comments so far. I have used the 7D but with the 75 - 300 f4-5.6 III usm lens. It's not a great one as its very soft. I might burrow a friends 70 - 200, although he has the f2.8 IS II USM version.
Is there a massive difference between the f2.8 non IS vs the f4 IS? If I was to have a 7D would, is one better than the other? It would be used for sport and the occasional indoor event photog?
G, if you have the funds get it with the 70-200 f/2.8 with IS II or IS I and don't look back.  You'll love that lens and the way the 7d resolves it.  When I'm shooting with my 7d I either have my 70-200mm f/2.8 IS II on the camera or my 100-400mm L locked on... They are both awesome but for the sports I use the 70-200mm almost exclusively if it's indoors... The f/2.8 is huge for 7d...   Someone else mentioned previously and I'll second it, the 17-55mm f/2.8 is killer for landscape work on the 7d...
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Re: Is it too late to buy a Canon 7D?
« Reply #21 on: April 09, 2013, 11:25:54 PM »
canon 7d is a geat camera imo.  in low light, it does not offer as low noise at high iso as canon 5d series or 1d series.  however, images turning out might not be great when quality of light is not there even with full frame.  thus, number of people are choosing using flash (when shooting candid) or video light (when shooting portrait) in low light even with full frame, even pro... i am not a pro, just want to let you know.  i am a curious hobbyist who willing to learn (NOT pay) anything to make a great image :P

i own 5d mark iii too, but still keep my canon 7d and canon 30d (mostly experiment and shooting my kids) for fun as well as backup, yet something that canon 5d mark iii cannot perform.  for example:  last weekend was my FIRST TIME of shooting bird.  as if i did not have my canon 7d, i would probably not get any image or i would have to wait the bird get close to me.

in short, a crop mode camera is highly recommended if you do not own a long range tele-photo lenses:

here are some images that i shot last weekend with my friends.  these are NOT that great, but hey first time of shooting.  yet, i did not have flash, tripod (just camera and lens) since i do not have any experience about shooting bird.  thing that i have learned after last shooting is flash duration...

note:   these images has been cropped a lot, linked from facebook and shot with canon 7d, 70-200mm ii hand held... i am more about journalism than wild life  ;)






Very nice samples Ish, thanks for sharing!
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Re: Is it too late to buy a Canon 7D?
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Re: Is it too late to buy a Canon 7D?
« Reply #22 on: April 10, 2013, 04:29:45 AM »
I was in a similar position, had a 600D and bit the bullet and got a 7D about 2 months ago. The only thing I find lacking is as mentioned, the ISO performance above 800. Other than that, its fantastic.

If/When the 7DII is released and it has drastically improved ISO, dual cards and 5DIIIs focus/metering I'l take the hit in depreciation and upgrade.

In your position, I'd hang out for the 70D this month to see how it compares to the current 7D and decide then.
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Re: Is it too late to buy a Canon 7D?
« Reply #23 on: April 10, 2013, 07:07:17 AM »
We've seen 7D bodies as low as $999 NEW in recent times.  Its not hard to find one for not much more than that right now.

Fantastic deal in a camera for that sort of price.

Yes, a little noisy at higher ISOs.   But, on the other hand... its a bit of a sports car in its focusing and frame rate.  You have to be the judge.  Right now, for the money, nothing Canon has can touch it for wildlife or sports.

For real world prints, or realistic screen/eframe display, the noise limitations are really not too limiting.  For pixel peeping... thats another story.

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Re: Is it too late to buy a Canon 7D?
« Reply #24 on: April 10, 2013, 12:25:47 PM »
We've seen 7D bodies as low as $999 NEW in recent times.  Its not hard to find one for not much more than that right now.

Fantastic deal in a camera for that sort of price.

Yes, a little noisy at higher ISOs.   But, on the other hand... its a bit of a sports car in its focusing and frame rate.  You have to be the judge.  Right now, for the money, nothing Canon has can touch it for wildlife or sports.

For real world prints, or realistic screen/eframe display, the noise limitations are really not too limiting.  For pixel peeping... thats another story.
Nothing other can touch it that is, unless you go to the 1DIV, 1Dx...
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Re: Is it too late to buy a Canon 7D?
« Reply #25 on: April 10, 2013, 02:02:48 PM »
I don't know what venues your sports photography covers but you might find the 70-200 a bit short. If you haven't tried the 200 in your typical situation, you should.
There's really something to be said for putting your money into the good glass, as others have recommended. Even a Ti takes great photos with a 300mm f2.8 IS USM (probably more than you want to spend but...), based on some bird photos a friend of mine has been taking lately.
Also, you mentioned a lens seemed soft. It could be the lens, or it could be the focus. Another nice feature of the 7D is the AF microadjustment. I have used the AFMA on both my 70-200 f2.8 (not II) and 500mm f4 (also, unfortunately not a II).
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Re: Is it too late to buy a Canon 7D?
« Reply #26 on: April 10, 2013, 02:23:59 PM »
We've seen 7D bodies as low as $999 NEW in recent times.  Its not hard to find one for not much more than that right now.

Fantastic deal in a camera for that sort of price.

Yes, a little noisy at higher ISOs.   But, on the other hand... its a bit of a sports car in its focusing and frame rate.  You have to be the judge.  Right now, for the money, nothing Canon has can touch it for wildlife or sports.

For real world prints, or realistic screen/eframe display, the noise limitations are really not too limiting.  For pixel peeping... thats another story.
Nothing other can touch it that is, unless you go to the 1DIV, 1Dx...

You forgot the qualifier "for the money". The 1DIV and 1D X are thousands of dollars, the 7D can be had for less than a thousand. For the money, nothing from any manufacturer can currently touch what the 7D can do for nine hundred bucks! :)

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Re: Is it too late to buy a Canon 7D?
« Reply #27 on: April 10, 2013, 02:26:54 PM »
I don't know what venues your sports photography covers but you might find the 70-200 a bit short. If you haven't tried the 200 in your typical situation, you should.
There's really something to be said for putting your money into the good glass, as others have recommended. Even a Ti takes great photos with a 300mm f2.8 IS USM (probably more than you want to spend but...), based on some bird photos a friend of mine has been taking lately.
Also, you mentioned a lens seemed soft. It could be the lens, or it could be the focus. Another nice feature of the 7D is the AF microadjustment. I have used the AFMA on both my 70-200 f2.8 (not II) and 500mm f4 (also, unfortunately not a II).

The 300mm f/2.8 L IS II is probably one of the worlds sharpest lenses right now. Even with the rather outdated 18mp APS-C sensor, the 7D produces unbelievable quality with that lens when used at f/5.6 or wider. Even with a 2x TC, the 300/2.8 II without AFMA produces much better quality than my 100-400 with AFMA!

Another alternative might be the EF 300mm f/4 L IS lens. It is much cheaper, much lighter, more manageable, and the aperture is decent. It can also take the 1.4x TC and become a 400mm f/5.6, which produces similar IQ to the 100-400mm L.

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Re: Is it too late to buy a Canon 7D?
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Re: Is it too late to buy a Canon 7D?
« Reply #28 on: April 10, 2013, 10:21:44 PM »
Thanks everyone for your comments so far. I have used the 7D but with the 75 - 300 f4-5.6 III usm lens. It's not a great one as its very soft. I might burrow a friends 70 - 200, although he has the f2.8 IS II USM version.
Is there a massive difference between the f2.8 non IS vs the f4 IS? If I was to have a 7D would, is one better than the other? It would be used for sport and the occasional indoor event photog?
My friend has the 70-200F4 non-IS.... I have the 70-200F4 IS.... I can not tell any difference in them until the shutter speeds get slow and then the IS makes life easier. When I went shopping to pick up my 70-200F4 IS, I also looked at the 70-200 F2.8 IS and took a lot of comparison pictures between the two lenses, and couldn't really see any appreciable difference.

The F2.8 (according to the MTF charts) is supposed to be marginally sharper, but I could not tell the difference.... they are both SHARP! The F2.8 is a bit faster, twice the price, and feels like twice the weight. I decided that I wanted the lighter lens, since I tend to use it stopped down a bit anyway.. The F2.8 did not really offer me any advantages other than depleting my bank account faster.
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Re: Is it too late to buy a Canon 7D?
« Reply #29 on: April 13, 2013, 12:17:02 PM »
Not unless the store is closed.  7D is a great answer regardless of the question.

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