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Re: Which Lens ... 24-70 II or primes?
« Reply #30 on: April 11, 2013, 09:12:04 AM »
The prime is a lot brighter and creamier Out of focus rendering as a result. But it's harder to use, exact focus is critical and composition is harder work and slower. The zoom has far more versatility, it's wider and a lot longer in it's focal range. It's beautifully sharp, as sharp a prime. It's quicker to use due to the zooms versatility, it's got a quicker AF system too. A pair of primes and matching cameras is required to cover a simular focal range...but still lacks the versatility. I tend to use three cameras for my wedding work: a 35mm f1.4, 85mm f1.2 and a 16-35IIL for wider stuff. But, a single 24-70L is far easier to work with in brighter weddings. 

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Re: Which Lens ... 24-70 II or primes?
« Reply #30 on: April 11, 2013, 09:12:04 AM »

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Re: Which Lens ... 24-70 II or primes?
« Reply #31 on: April 11, 2013, 09:45:51 AM »
get a video camera or ... learn how to paint  ;D

 :( ... Have a video camera and I know how to paint ... what else?

Sorry I typed it in the wrong thread!

I meant to type it to the "Canon EOS 1DX Junk camera??" thread.

My sincere apologies.  :-[

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Re: Which Lens ... 24-70 II or primes?
« Reply #32 on: April 11, 2013, 10:12:29 AM »
After shooting sub-f/2.8 for so long, I don't think I could live without my primes but I could live without my zooms. It's a strange predicament, as most shooters have it the other way around.

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Re: Which Lens ... 24-70 II or primes?
« Reply #33 on: April 11, 2013, 10:40:40 AM »
I was reading this thread because I was also kind of thinking about 24-70 II. Now, since I made the above stupid error, unintentional as it was, allow me to somehow say something in topic.

I had a 24-70 2.8 version 1 which I used with my 40D. When that combo was stolen, I replaced it with a 5DMkII and 24-105. That lens is very versatile and has IS. I have not pixel-peeped it though apart from 2 cases.

The 1st time I was disappointed but I recall having forgotten the lens to manual focus so it does not count. That was some landscapes while I was returning home for vacation so no big deal though.

The 2nd time (which was important) was at a christening. I had used flash and f/9 so I had no complaints at all with sharpness.

Back to 24-70 question: I believe that 70mm is not enough. Right now I prefer to use my 35mm 1.4L, 85mm 1/8 and 135mm f/2L instead of a 24-105 (and a 24TS-E if in need for 24mm). I admit though that when I take my 5DMkIII with 3 lenses my small shoulder camera bag (a TT urban disguise) gets really heavy. So usually I revert to 2 prime lenses. This is not necessarily bad since it makes me think and use my feet and think. I also like the oof blur from prime lenses.

In your case since kids mean action I believe either 24-70 or a 35mm would serve you almost equally well. With either case though, you wouldn't escape the need to change lens (135mm ?) to take a portrait. This is a case that only 24-105 covers (at least partially).

So I am sorry I feel I did not help especially even when on topic. But this is also my dilemma (and the reason I was reading this thread).

If I were to summarize I would say:

family / children:  better with prime lenses
landscapes: better with a 24-70


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Re: Which Lens ... 24-70 II or primes?
« Reply #34 on: April 11, 2013, 10:46:43 AM »
family / children:  better with prime lenses
landscapes: better with a 24-70

Interesting.  I have the opposite viewpoint, mostly.  My kids move fast - a zoom offers the flexibility I need to capture them from arm's length to across the yard.  For landscapes, I have the camera on a tripod and time at my disposal.  TS-E 24mm and mucking about with gran ND filters?  No problem. 
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Re: Which Lens ... 24-70 II or primes?
« Reply #35 on: April 11, 2013, 10:58:29 AM »
family / children:  better with prime lenses
landscapes: better with a 24-70

Interesting.  I have the opposite viewpoint, mostly.  My kids move fast - a zoom offers the flexibility I need to capture them from arm's length to across the yard.  For landscapes, I have the camera on a tripod and time at my disposal.  TS-E 24mm and mucking about with gran ND filters?  No problem.
I was thinking as you but OP had said:

 "images are usually taken after I'm back from work so its mostly in low light situations"




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Re: Which Lens ... 24-70 II or primes?
« Reply #36 on: April 11, 2013, 11:09:13 AM »
family / children:  better with prime lenses
landscapes: better with a 24-70

Interesting.  I have the opposite viewpoint, mostly.  My kids move fast - a zoom offers the flexibility I need to capture them from arm's length to across the yard.  For landscapes, I have the camera on a tripod and time at my disposal.  TS-E 24mm and mucking about with gran ND filters?  No problem.
I was thinking as you but OP had said:

 "images are usually taken after I'm back from work so its mostly in low light situations"

That's the main reason I bought the 35L.  But now, with the high ISO performance of the 1D X, I find that an f/2.8 lens is working for indoor ambient shooting.
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Re: Which Lens ... 24-70 II or primes?
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Re: Which Lens ... 24-70 II or primes?
« Reply #37 on: April 11, 2013, 01:43:05 PM »
Thanks guys ... I bit the bullet and ordered the 24-70 II this evening at the local Canon dealer. The lens should be here next week  :)
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Re: Which Lens ... 24-70 II or primes?
« Reply #38 on: April 11, 2013, 04:27:13 PM »
family / children:  better with prime lenses
landscapes: better with a 24-70

Interesting.  I have the opposite viewpoint, mostly.  My kids move fast - a zoom offers the flexibility I need to capture them from arm's length to across the yard.  For landscapes, I have the camera on a tripod and time at my disposal.  TS-E 24mm and mucking about with gran ND filters?  No problem.
I was thinking as you but OP had said:

 "images are usually taken after I'm back from work so its mostly in low light situations"

That's the main reason I bought the 35L.  But now, with the high ISO performance of the 1D X, I find that an f/2.8 lens is working for indoor ambient shooting.

I'm finding that I can't change primes fast enough (or move myself fast enough :P ) to get all the shots I want of our 12-month-old toddler indoors.  Its tough to predict where and when he is going to move!  So, I'm looking hard at acquiring a 24-70 2.8.  I can use primes for other indoor shots of the older kids, but they are not working with the youngest right now.
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Re: Which Lens ... 24-70 II or primes?
« Reply #38 on: April 11, 2013, 04:27:13 PM »