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Re: Which Lens Canon 85mm 1.8 or 135 L
« Reply #30 on: April 15, 2013, 04:34:35 AM »

I guess I should further clarify, I don't only want it for studio shots, but I do want a better and sharper portrait lens than the 24-105.  I like to do outdoor shots and the f/4 has no bokeh at all, so im avoiding lenses with that aperture.

The 24-105L has fine bokeh, you just have to get close with it at the long end:



Granted, for portraits you'd probably have to work pretty close to the model and fill the frame with their face in order to get this kind of DoF, but it can be done & it performs well enough at f/4.5 (that shot's from my 40D, BTW).

There are a few other lenses you might consider:

  • the 100 f/2 USM, which I passed over in favor of the 85 f/1.8 because I was shooting APS-C at the time & the shorter/faster 85 f/1.8 made the difference of being able to get good stable shots in indoor light at ISO1600, which would have been harder with the 100 f/2.  On modern FF cameras it's a different story...
  • the 100mm f/2.8L IS macro.  It won't have as much bokeh as the 135L but it still has more than enough to blur the background for portraits, the character of the bokeh is nice & creamy, and of course it's got IS & it's also an awesome macro lens. The tripod collar improves the handling too.  Cost is about the same as the 135L.  Worth looking at if you want to work a little closer than the 135L will let you.
  • The 85mm f/1.2L.  If you can find a good used original version (not the II) the optical formula is pretty much the same as the new one (the new one provides distance information for flash), & the cost should be in the ballpark of the 135L.
  • the Sigma 85mm f/1.4

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Re: Which Lens Canon 85mm 1.8 or 135 L
« Reply #30 on: April 15, 2013, 04:34:35 AM »

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Re: Which Lens Canon 85mm 1.8 or 135 L
« Reply #31 on: September 14, 2013, 12:35:27 PM »
I have both of these lenses and sometimes use both as portrait lenses in the same photoshoot on my 5D3.  What I find is that I use the 85 1.8 a lot more than the 135L.

They both create nice bokeh, it just depends on how far away you are going to be from your subject and how much of the person you want in the frame.

Here's an outdoor portrait I did a few days ago with the 85 at F/2.0:



If I had used the 135, I would have had to stand too far away from the model. :)
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Re: Which Lens Canon 85mm 1.8 or 135 L
« Reply #32 on: September 14, 2013, 01:21:54 PM »
I have both of these lenses and sometimes use both as portrait lenses in the same photoshoot on my 5D3.  What I find is that I use the 85 1.8 a lot more than the 135L.

They both create nice bokeh, it just depends on how far away you are going to be from your subject and how much of the person you want in the frame.

Here's an outdoor portrait I did a few days ago with the 85 at F/2.0:



If I had used the 135, I would have had to stand too far away from the model. :)
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Re: Which Lens Canon 85mm 1.8 or 135 L
« Reply #33 on: September 16, 2013, 05:03:35 PM »
I have both lenses and use them frequently with my 6D.

If I had to choose one, it would easily be the 135L.  Its an awesome portrait and general purpose telephoto lens.  Its minimum focal distance is 3 feet, so using it in smaller rooms can be somewhat difficult, but I use it with no problems in the larger rooms of our house.

The 85mm 1.8 is a very good lens and a great value for under $400, but the 135L is definitely better.

Came here to say the same thing.  I also find the 85 a little more finicky, the 135 just works.

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Re: Which Lens Canon 85mm 1.8 or 135 L
« Reply #34 on: September 16, 2013, 06:02:38 PM »
Until last month I would have said get the 135mm L
I own the 135mm and it is a pleasure to use it
I owned the 85mm 1.8 and marceled at it's Beauty but with the 135L in the pocket I hardly ever used it.
I own the Mark I Version of the 85mm 1.2 L I use it for portaits (but only for People who wont move fast because the AF is that slow  :D)

Recently I shot a series of Pictures at a Beijing Opera Show. Depending on which Scene I used the 70-200 2.8 IS L, The EF 135mm L and the Sigma 30mm 1.4 EX DC. Light changed between the different parts of the opera but usualy stayed for 10 minutes or more the same and I frequently changed lenses always being forced to use high ISOs. Using NIK DFine 2 in Lightroom I was wondering if my NIK Software had issues because every third Picture or so the noise reduction would not improve the Picture at all, the processed Image looking simmilar to the non processed Image. Surprised me a lot until I found that all those Pictures were taken with the 135L. Can#t tell if it is quality of the glass the gain of an Fstop ligt or whatever but with the 135mm I can catch on KungFu fighter flying through the air in a dim lit theatre and the picture looks like prime choice stock material.

So with my favourite clear why not recommending it? Because Sigma is out there trying to shake the market and we are on a rumor page. If that Sigma 135mm 1.8 OS is really coming than either get this one or happily buy a used EF 135 L once their resale value surrenders in front of the Sigma Price.

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Re: Which Lens Canon 85mm 1.8 or 135 L
« Reply #35 on: September 16, 2013, 06:06:43 PM »
I have the 85 1.8  and I'm really fond of it.  I  use it for baby photos.   I'd like to get close to my daughter,  but I work within the three feet mfd. 

 this is unrelated,  but the photos all kinds look the same.   her  sleeping with thin depth of field...  so I need to mix it up so I don't get bored.
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Re: Which Lens Canon 85mm 1.8 or 135 L
« Reply #36 on: September 16, 2013, 06:25:27 PM »
I have the 85 1.8 and I don't like the fringing one bit. I like contrast and that lens just does not deliver without a purple glow wherever there's a sharp transition. I'd suggest the 100 2.0 but that apparently suffers from the same predicament, the 100 2.8 macro fares much better in that respect, it's not much more expensive than the 85 1.8 and it is tack sharp to boot. Only drawback is that it's rather voluminous (and not inconspicuous enough for streeters) - or I'd traded my 85 in a long time ago.

Hmmm.........I think my joke fell a bit flat  :(

I think everyone here instantaneously realized that for Playgirl magazine, you need the 8-15 :)

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Re: Which Lens Canon 85mm 1.8 or 135 L
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Re: Which Lens Canon 85mm 1.8 or 135 L
« Reply #37 on: September 16, 2013, 06:39:51 PM »
These are in two different leagues. 135 ftw

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Re: Which Lens Canon 85mm 1.8 or 135 L
« Reply #38 on: September 16, 2013, 07:29:36 PM »
Situation is I have a tight studio, reach on the 135 might be tight, but the optics are probably superior.
Want an 85 1.2 but can't really afford it. The 1.8 might be a good compromise based on price, smaller reach for tighter spaces, I kind of think 440 might be much when the 50 1.8 is $100.
If you've got a tight studio, I'd strongly suggest don't get either the 135 or an 85. Both good lenses, but you need some flexibility. If money is tight, seriously consider a pre-owned 70-200 f/4 non-IS. Make no mistake. This is class-glass. The flexibility a zoom brings to the table cannot be underestimated. Especially one as optically strong as any of Canon's 70-200 offerings.

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Re: Which Lens Canon 85mm 1.8 or 135 L
« Reply #39 on: September 16, 2013, 09:07:18 PM »
Situation is I have a tight studio, reach on the 135 might be tight, but the optics are probably superior.
Want an 85 1.2 but can't really afford it. The 1.8 might be a good compromise based on price, smaller reach for tighter spaces, I kind of think 440 might be much when the 50 1.8 is $100.
If you've got a tight studio, I'd strongly suggest don't get either the 135 or an 85. Both good lenses, but you need some flexibility. If money is tight, seriously consider a pre-owned 70-200 f/4 non-IS. Make no mistake. This is class-glass. The flexibility a zoom brings to the table cannot be underestimated. Especially one as optically strong as any of Canon's 70-200 offerings.

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Re: Which Lens Canon 85mm 1.8 or 135 L
« Reply #40 on: September 16, 2013, 09:30:15 PM »
I have both of these lenses and sometimes use both as portrait lenses in the same photoshoot on my 5D3.  What I find is that I use the 85 1.8 a lot more than the 135L.

They both create nice bokeh, it just depends on how far away you are going to be from your subject and how much of the person you want in the frame.

Here's an outdoor portrait I did a few days ago with the 85 at F/2.0:



If I had used the 135, I would have had to stand too far away from the model. :)

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Re: Which Lens Canon 85mm 1.8 or 135 L
« Reply #41 on: September 27, 2013, 11:42:35 AM »
Situation is I have a tight studio, reach on the 135 might be tight, but the optics are probably superior.
Want an 85 1.2 but can't really afford it. The 1.8 might be a good compromise based on price, smaller reach for tighter spaces, I kind of think 440 might be much when the 50 1.8 is $100.
If you've got a tight studio, I'd strongly suggest don't get either the 135 or an 85. Both good lenses, but you need some flexibility. If money is tight, seriously consider a pre-owned 70-200 f/4 non-IS. Make no mistake. This is class-glass. The flexibility a zoom brings to the table cannot be underestimated. Especially one as optically strong as any of Canon's 70-200 offerings.

-pw

I agree with the above. Zooms for studio work. My studio space is tight and i use 24-105 most of the time. With lights you stop down anyway. I would go nuts with just a prime when working several hours in studio (and I love primes). Too limiting... For outdoors - thats a different story. I have 85/1.8 and 135L and i use both. 85 more of a casual lens (or clients with kids) and 135 is when I work for a client (beauty, fashion, portraiture, etc) and location allows this focal length. Both lenses on FF produce great results, but 135 always feels a bit special.
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Re: Which Lens Canon 85mm 1.8 or 135 L
« Reply #41 on: September 27, 2013, 11:42:35 AM »