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Re: A 4000$ budget for Lenses on 5D3... need suggestions
« Reply #15 on: April 14, 2013, 03:48:33 PM »
In general prime lenses are sharper than zooms and usually a bit faster.  I'd go 24mm (don't need the L here) 100mm 2.8L Macro (medium telephoto, IS) and the 200L 2.8 (no IS, but cheap for an L, fast and sharp).  This is a great, sharp lineup with your 50 1.8 (a very sharp lens).  you go 24 to 200 with the sharpest lenses available for your camera and all are 2.8 or faster.  not even close to $4,000 since all of these lenses get a significant rebate during the next 2 weeks.  Why don't you throw in a good flash to round things out.  BTW, get yourself and extra battery or two.  Wish I had your problem :-)
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Re: A 4000$ budget for Lenses on 5D3... need suggestions
« Reply #16 on: April 14, 2013, 03:56:27 PM »
My new favorite travel kit is the Tamron 24-70VC and the Canon EF 70-300L.  You could get these two and still have at least $1300.  If you could find used copies of the 17-40L and the 135L for your remaining balance (doable) you would have most situations covered quite well.  The 135L responds very well to a 1.4x teleconverter and provides a near 200mm f/2.8 prime.


What is your experience on IQ when using the 1.4 on the 135L?
And, is that 1.4 MKIII?

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Re: A 4000$ budget for Lenses on 5D3... need suggestions
« Reply #17 on: April 14, 2013, 04:28:25 PM »
The only solid recommendation I can give is not to skimp on the tripod. If you like doing long exposures then that's going to be one of your most handled pieces of equipment, and chances are better ones won't come along any time soon.
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Re: A 4000$ budget for Lenses on 5D3... need suggestions
« Reply #18 on: April 14, 2013, 05:57:56 PM »
16-35/2.8 II
24-70/2.8 II
70-200/2.8 IS II

If possible.
+1.  Rent the 16-35 if you can't go over $4000


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Re: A 4000$ budget for Lenses on 5D3... need suggestions
« Reply #19 on: April 15, 2013, 06:35:06 AM »
What focal range(s) do you need to cover?

What is the widest you need to go?

What is the longest focal length you might need?

With your widest and longest focal lengths (plus any specialty needs like macro, tilt-shift), we will be able to give you a better answer. For example, if you don't need anything wider than 24mm, it would be a very different list than if you need to go as wide as 16mm/17mm.

Widest I might be going for - 15-20
Longest focal length - this is little tricky as the two lens I have used were 70-200.

Hello CR folks,

I recently bought a 5D3 and 50mm 1.8.This is my first investment and I am based out of India. 
I mostly shoot Low Light , Landscape , Street Photography and Slow Shutter captures.


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Since landscape is what you value most, I'd recommend:
17mm TS-E ($2200) for Landscape
40mm f/2.8 ($150) for street
Sigma 35mm  ($899) for low light
 
a total of $3249.
 
You will need a good tripod and head, which will run you  $600-$1000, so I left $750 room to buy that.     If prices are higher in india, you will have to compromise, as I have listed New USA prices.
 
 

Thanks ,that looks pretty good for me except I badly need a 24-70. I loved this lens more than any lens I have ever rented.

Hello CR folks,

I recently bought a 5D3 and 50mm 1.8.This is my first investment and I am based out of India. 
I mostly shoot Low Light , Landscape , Street Photography and Slow Shutter captures.

Before taking up 5D3 I had an experience of working with my colleague's Canon60D , 18-135(kits lens) ,70-200mm f4 and NikonD7000 50mm f1.4,70-200mm f4. 
I had some severe limitations while shooting Landscapes and didn't get enough experience on wide-angle shots  :-[
I will be travelling to Ladakh,a landscape,rich cultured,wildlife Himalayan Range in the month of July and I am looking for suggestions to get some 'real' gear.
All I can  say that this will be my starting point to get into some real action  ;)

I can spend up to 4000$ on the Lenses.
Please share the gear details based on your own experience.

Regards
Hari

I'm presently in India and could offer some hands on advice ;)

Do you plan to buy from the US and someone will transport it for you in India? If so, you lose on your warranties and also get stuck at the Indian customs with the gear if you are really unlucky. I was questioned over my own gear (purchased from India) at the Indian customs and I was lucky to have copies of all invoices on my iPad. 

Gear in India is almost 30% expensive due to the high customs duty so your "real" budget for the lenses will be toned down to $ 3,100.

I'm surprised you didn't opt for the 24-105 f/4 L kit lens with the 5D3. It came in exceptionally cheap with the kit. If you do need this lens you can check with a Canon Image Square outlet who will be able to help you with a new lens marked as "Used". Some people trade the kit lens at the outlets at the time of buying the kit and make a fast INR 5-10K profit so you might get a good deal.

For a trip to Ladakh I'd suggest getting a general purpose zoom and you could choose between the 24-105, 24-70. The Tamron lens looks good but their service in India is a joke. Tamron usually plays the blame game citing problems with camera bodies should you run into any problems with the lens.

Were you satisfied with shooting at 18mm on the 60D? That's effectively 29mm and shooting a wide angle 17mm will present an even greater field of view. If you do need a wide-angle, you could choose between a 17-40 or a 16-35. Based on your choices you could take your pick with the 70-200. All Canon variants are excellent.

BTW, most dealers will give you a discount of 3-4% on the retail price but you could get a 8-10% discount on the retail price if you buy from the distributor directly. If you can buy from New Delhi, send me a PM - I have the contact details of the distributor.

I will be in US for a month on a work assignment.So I will be buying the lens during my return.
Thanks for the tips on "Indian Customs" Even I had a bad time three years back on some Electronics stuff  :-[
I am based out of Bangalore.

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Re: A 4000$ budget for Lenses on 5D3... need suggestions
« Reply #20 on: April 15, 2013, 04:14:34 PM »
If your budget is a hard $4k, and you get the 24-70 L (I or II), your choices will be limited on the wide end and long end. An aperture of f/2.8 isn't optimal for low light (but decent with high ISO). Most of the great low-light primes are in the 24-85mm focal range. So there's a big opportunity cost of getting a 24-70mm, if you are on a tight budget.

If you get the 24-70mm L II -- and if f/2.8 is good enough for your low-light shooting -- then up your budget and get the "zooms trinity", as others have suggested (or wait until you can afford it).

But, if you have a hard $4k budget and want a good prime, I will suggest some alternatives.

WIDE: The EF 16-35mm L is a solid choice. It's IQ/sharpness is not as good as the 14/17/24 Ls, but it's cheaper and has a big range.

MID: You have several choices under $1000: EF 50mm f/1.4, Sigma 35mm f/1.4, Sigma 50mm f/1.4. And there's also the 50mm L, which is a bit more expensive and sometimes tough to master.

LONG: If you need range above 70mm, then I feel like it's mostly a choice between Mark I or Mark II of the 70-200mm f/2.8 L series. If you can do without a zoom range (and 200mm reach), the EF 135mm f/2 is probably Canon's best value lens and has stellar IQ.

Here are two alternatives to the zooms trinity:

EF 16-35mm L ($1429)
EF 50mm L ($1400)
EF 70-200m L f/2.8 I ($1400)

OR

EF 16-35mm L ($1429)
EF 50mm f/1.4 ($400)
EF 70-200m L f/2.8 II ($2400)
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Re: A 4000$ budget for Lenses on 5D3... need suggestions
« Reply #21 on: April 15, 2013, 08:32:21 PM »
16-35/2.8 II
24-70/2.8 II
70-200/2.8 IS II

If possible.
+1.  Rent the 16-35 if you can't go over $4000

This is it, If your in the himalayas you'll need to think of weight, these 3 Lenses + 5DMK3 Body in a Back Pak, your covered, only thing I'de add would be the 1.4x Converter & the 600EX-RT Flash, if not the 600 EX go for the 430EX cheaper & you only loose the RT function, still a good flash. Take images & have a great time, think "Snow Leopards".
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Re: A 4000$ budget for Lenses on 5D3... need suggestions
« Reply #22 on: April 15, 2013, 08:51:12 PM »
no one. not a single person (unless I missed it) has mentioned the 24-105mm f/4L lens

are we all forgetting how great this lens is or are we all blinded by the new mark II 24-70 f/2.8 :P

just the fact that the 24-105mm is so affordable now makes it even more attractive and we can't deny that zoom range is extremely helpful and versatile.

with $4,000 to play with you could pick up some fantastic lenses, no need to gun for the brand new $2,000+ lenses

16-35mm f/2.8L II
24-105mm f/4L (or maybe the new 24-70mm f/4 IS USM)
70-200mm f/4L (non IS version)

and I would also consider the 50mm f/1.4 and 85mm f/1.4 lenses by Sigma - they are incredibly good for much less than the Canon versions

and you may end up with money to spare. like I said - no need to gun for the new $2,000+ lenses
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Re: A 4000$ budget for Lenses on 5D3... need suggestions
« Reply #23 on: April 15, 2013, 09:38:46 PM »
no one. not a single person (unless I missed it) has mentioned the 24-105mm f/4L lens

are we all forgetting how great this lens is or are we all blinded by the new mark II 24-70 f/2.8...
Guilty, have the 24-105, love it, but want a 24-70 II

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Re: A 4000$ budget for Lenses on 5D3... need suggestions
« Reply #24 on: April 15, 2013, 09:43:52 PM »
no one. not a single person (unless I missed it) has mentioned the 24-105mm f/4L lens

The 24-105 is a great lens! It is the only Canon L with IS in the 24-70mm range. That said, I find myself using it less and less, in favor of more specialized lenses. Still, for trips or treks with only one lens... it's gotta be the most versatile L zoom.

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Re: A 4000$ budget for Lenses on 5D3... need suggestions
« Reply #25 on: April 15, 2013, 11:13:14 PM »
My recommendations:

1. 24-105L
2. 70-200L or 70-300L (with IS in either case)
3. Zeiss 50 f1.4
4. Short 40
5. 17-40L

(I have 1-4, and am saving for 5)

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Re: A 4000$ budget for Lenses on 5D3... need suggestions
« Reply #26 on: April 15, 2013, 11:29:21 PM »
Other than tripod, flash, and filters, suggestion for landscape is 24 1.4 L II, or 16-35 L II ($1400), if you're investing hard on it, go with TS-24 L.
Suggestion for normal range purpose is Sigma 35 1.4 ($900), and your owned 50 1.8 II (a great great lens) I do not suggest 24-70 2.8, actually, not as useful as 35 1.4 for IQ for low light. Face it, you don't need 40-70 range usually other than wedding case, do you?
Suggestion for long range purpose is 70-300 L IS, or 70-200 F4 IS. If you have a backup APS-C sized camera, a 70-200 F4 IS is better and enough. ($1200)

Note, for HDR shootings, lens doesn't matter, go nude with no filters.

Lastly, tripod is the most important gear you'll use for a long time.

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Re: A 4000$ budget for Lenses on 5D3... need suggestions
« Reply #27 on: April 16, 2013, 02:56:59 AM »
no one. not a single person (unless I missed it) has mentioned the 24-105mm f/4L lens

are we all forgetting how great this lens is or are we all blinded by the new mark II 24-70 f/2.8 :P

just the fact that the 24-105mm is so affordable now makes it even more attractive and we can't deny that zoom range is extremely helpful and versatile.

with $4,000 to play with you could pick up some fantastic lenses, no need to gun for the brand new $2,000+ lenses

16-35mm f/2.8L II
24-105mm f/4L (or maybe the new 24-70mm f/4 IS USM)
70-200mm f/4L (non IS version)

and I would also consider the 50mm f/1.4 and 85mm f/1.4 lenses by Sigma - they are incredibly good for much less than the Canon versions

and you may end up with money to spare. like I said - no need to gun for the new $2,000+ lenses

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Re: A 4000$ budget for Lenses on 5D3... need suggestions
« Reply #28 on: April 16, 2013, 04:17:55 AM »
no one. not a single person (unless I missed it) has mentioned the 24-105mm f/4L lens

are we all forgetting how great this lens is or are we all blinded by the new mark II 24-70 f/2.8 :P

just the fact that the 24-105mm is so affordable now makes it even more attractive and we can't deny that zoom range is extremely helpful and versatile.

with $4,000 to play with you could pick up some fantastic lenses, no need to gun for the brand new $2,000+ lenses

16-35mm f/2.8L II
24-105mm f/4L (or maybe the new 24-70mm f/4 IS USM)
70-200mm f/4L (non IS version)

and I would also consider the 50mm f/1.4 and 85mm f/1.4 lenses by Sigma - they are incredibly good for much less than the Canon versions

and you may end up with money to spare. like I said - no need to gun for the new $2,000+ lenses

You missed it, I did :)

I too mentioned it ... in fact I was surprised the OP didn't buy it as a kit lens.
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Re: A 4000$ budget for Lenses on 5D3... need suggestions
« Reply #29 on: April 16, 2013, 04:35:19 AM »
Given your budget, I'd recommend:

1) 24-70mm f/2.8L II -- tack sharp, rivals primes, also good in low light with high iso 5D Mark III
2) 135mm f/2.0L -- great bokeh, fast, light
3) 85mm f/1.8 -- cheap, light, fast, unobtrusive, decent lens
3) good tripod and ballhead





Hello CR folks,

I recently bought a 5D3 and 50mm 1.8.This is my first investment and I am based out of India. 
I mostly shoot Low Light , Landscape , Street Photography and Slow Shutter captures.

Before taking up 5D3 I had an experience of working with my colleague's Canon60D , 18-135(kits lens) ,70-200mm f4 and NikonD7000 50mm f1.4,70-200mm f4. 
I had some severe limitations while shooting Landscapes and didn't get enough experience on wide-angle shots  :-[
I will be travelling to Ladakh,a landscape,rich cultured,wildlife Himalayan Range in the month of July and I am looking for suggestions to get some 'real' gear.
All I can  say that this will be my starting point to get into some real action  ;)

I can spend up to 4000$ on the Lenses.
Please share the gear details based on your own experience.

Regards
Hari
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