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Help with Bird ID?
« on: April 16, 2013, 11:48:45 AM »
Hi, hoping someone can assist with positive id for this bird.  My best guess is that it is either a Western Kingbird or a Cassin's Kingbird.  They appear to be very similar to me and I'm not sure I can properly Id the bird. 

The Cassin's Kingbird is rare here in Central Florida, they've been seen nonetheless.  A Western Kingbird sighting is apparently somewhat rare here as well, they are known to migrate a bit south of where I'm at from my understanding. 

There are wingbars as can be seen, yet I'm told one of the more telling differences is the white chin and malar contrasting with the darker head and breast.  I don't see that it this one at all.  They are very similar and I'm really just not sure, hopefully someone from the midwestern states can Id it more positively for me!

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Help with Bird ID?
« on: April 16, 2013, 11:48:45 AM »

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Re: Help with Bird ID?
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2013, 11:58:00 AM »
Here is one more image of this little rascal, hopefully helpful for an ID.  Presently my best guess is the Western Kingbird, I just don't know for sure...  I thought on the Western that the tail was darker, closer to black?
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Re: Help with Bird ID?
« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2013, 12:12:37 PM »
Hi Ken!

I think you are over-thinking the bird.  Let's break it down...

It isn't a Western Kingbird because the tail does not have white edges on the outer feathers and the tail is not black.

It isn't a Cassin's Kingbird because they have a light grey head and a dull yellow breast.

What you have pictures of is a Great Crested Flycatcher. They have the beautiful lemon yellow belly and a reddish cinnamon colored tail.  Plus, they are summer residents from the Great Plains eastward to the Atlantic Coast.  The other two birds would be exceedingly rare finds in Florida.

I love the pictures (especially the second one!)

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Re: Help with Bird ID?
« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2013, 12:37:42 PM »
Little yellow bird.  :P

Lovely photo...

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Re: Help with Bird ID?
« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2013, 12:39:12 PM »
Agreed. Great Crested Flycatcher! Nice shots!
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Re: Help with Bird ID?
« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2013, 04:55:27 PM »
Hi Ken!

I think you are over-thinking the bird.  Let's break it down...

It isn't a Western Kingbird because the tail does not have white edges on the outer feathers and the tail is not black.

It isn't a Cassin's Kingbird because they have a light grey head and a dull yellow breast.

What you have pictures of is a Great Crested Flycatcher. They have the beautiful lemon yellow belly and a reddish cinnamon colored tail.  Plus, they are summer residents from the Great Plains eastward to the Atlantic Coast.  The other two birds would be exceedingly rare finds in Florida.

I love the pictures (especially the second one!)

Nikki
Okay Nikki, Thanks!  I'll run with that!  It did seem to bare some resemblence to the Brown-Crested as well but they do... I had to listen to calls of both to make a final determination and agree it's a Great-Crested Flycatcher.  They do have the Browns down here as well but mostly in South Florida. 

I've never seen it before so it's a great find for me!  Thanks with your quick response and positive id!   I liked the second one as well!  :D
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Re: Help with Bird ID?
« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2013, 04:56:13 PM »
Little yellow bird.  :P

Lovely photo...
Thanks Sanj!
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Re: Help with Bird ID?
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Re: Help with Bird ID?
« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2013, 04:56:45 PM »
Agreed. Great Crested Flycatcher! Nice shots!
Thanks Viggen, I appreciate your kindness! :)
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Re: Help with Bird ID?
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