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Even Nikon has announced its FF successors.
« on: August 03, 2011, 06:32:06 AM »
Hi people,

Just hoping to share my thoughts and gain some of your insights. Nikon has already announced its successors of its D700 and D3s, and they will be releasing it on the 24th August.

Honestly, in my opinion, Canon is tailing way behind. When Nikon released its D3s, Canon didn't release pro cameras, and I have to admit the D3s is a beast. Now Nikon has a updated beast coming.

What do you guys think?

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« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2011, 06:50:02 AM »
Nikon has already announced its successors of its D700 and D3s, and they will be releasing it on the 24th August.


I must have missed the press release.  Can you post a link to it?

Well, no, because it's still just a rumor.  THey've announced nothing.  Granted, they haven't scheduled worldwide press events to unveil a new microscope objective or a flash.  But to be clear, the rumor is that "The D700 replacement will be available in Fall 2011 and the D3s replacement will be available at the beginning of 2012."  Plus, NRguy doesn't even believe that there will be a D700 replacement, and instead is suggesting an D400 (DX/APS-C) alongside the D4.

Given that this is an rumor of an future announcement for an even-more-in-the-future release date (perhaps 2012), I would not say Canon is 'way behind'.
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« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2011, 06:57:10 AM »
Could you point us to Nikon's announcement? The folks over at Nikon Rumors are almost as impatient as we are and I'm sure they'd love to see it.

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« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2011, 07:02:06 AM »
Oh, and about:

When Nikon released its D3s, Canon didn't release pro cameras,

The Nikon D3s was announced on October 14, 2009.  The Canon 1D Mark IV was announced just six days later, on October 20, 2009.  So, does a six day gap constitute 'not releasing', or is the 1DIV not a pro camera?  Or perhaps option 3, you need to get your facts straight?
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« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2011, 08:40:21 AM »
It is safe to say that at least Nikon has announced a worldwide press event, with the possibility of releasing the D700/D3 successors at it.  I wish Canon at least had a timeline for revamping their pro models.  We haven't heard a single peep from them, and I highly doubt they'll be releasing newer models without a huge press event.  I feel like Canon is dragging their feet when it comes to this.

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« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2011, 09:46:43 AM »
Hi people,

Just hoping to share my thoughts and gain some of your insights. Nikon has already announced its successors of its D700 and D3s, and they will be releasing it on the 24th August.

Honestly, in my opinion, Canon is tailing way behind. When Nikon released its D3s, Canon didn't release pro cameras, and I have to admit the D3s is a beast. Now Nikon has a updated beast coming.

What do you guys think?

i think you have way to much time on your hands... or given your first posting is some nikon crap.... you are a troll.

how can canon be WAY behind when nikon JUST announced it´s new model? well i did not know  if that is true at all, at least i heard nothing.

but well... i can´t look into the future when canon will make an anouncement.. but if it comes in april 2012 then yes.. canon will be way behind i guess.

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« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2011, 10:28:46 AM »
While it is only a rumor, it makes quite sense - Nikon has 4 years development cycle (the D3s was 2 years mid-life modest update) and as I understand the press conferences for announcements are confirmed though no idea about the content. For Canon, we have no such dates, even rumored. Hopefully it will be not a catch up game this time.

As the supposed Nikon D4 is a direct competitor to the 1D MK4, I deduct that this is the body which Canon is going to update first despite the long lifetime of the 1Ds Mk3.

I personally have feeling that the Nikon D3s mid-life modest update didn't have less output than full-cycle 1D Mk4 (and this is what it makes a bit pale), the latter even looking more like a catch up by forced ISO specs, clearly not to be meant there without the sake of the competition.

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« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2011, 11:01:38 AM »
My fingers are crossed that Canon releases something so great that it puts Nikon users back in their place. Of course, I do hope even further in the future it flip flops again just to keep driving innovation.

I'd still like to be on top for a while as a Canon user though (although I still say the 5D Mark II and the Nikon d3x have very comparable image quality at a huge price difference).

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« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2011, 01:18:15 PM »
 I am a diehard Canon fan, but I do think the poster is correct in some respects...

Canon is supposedly behind with regards to a few features that most of us would like to see. Dual card slots, Low noise at high ISO, faster, more accurate, auto focus (especially in low light). Me personally I'd like to see a histogram based on the RAW file if I am shooting RAW (I don't know if Nikon has that, doubt it).

The 5D Mark II is probably the most popular of the Canon line up and that's where we want to see these features. Canon and Nikon like to play leapfrog and this time it's Canon's turn to pull ahead. It isn't like they don't have the resources. The question the poster is asking is basically what do we think if Canon doesn't step up to the plate and leapfrog Nikon as they rightly should...
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« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2011, 02:52:33 PM »
Whoa whoa whoa, to clear things up a lil', I got the news from NR here http://nikonrumors.com/2011/08/02/august-24th-nikon-d700-and-d3s-successors.aspx/.

It stated:
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Nikon will announce D700 and D3s successors on August 24th, 2011. The D700 replacement will be available in Fall 2011 and the D3s replacement will be available at the beginning of 2012.


It stated 'WILL ANNOUNCE', therefore i interpreted it as a confirmation.

As what Canihaspicture has said,
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Canon is supposedly behind with regards to a few features that most of us would like to see. Dual card slots, Low noise at high ISO, faster, more accurate, auto focus (especially in low light). Me personally I'd like to see a histogram based on the RAW file if I am shooting RAW (I don't know if Nikon has that, doubt it).

I was trying to mean this. I'm sure many Canon users share the same thoughts in regards to the technical terms not being able to go head-to-head on with Nikon's?

and to Gothmoth, yes indeed, I have WAYYYY too much time on my hands, got a problem?

Anw no offense to anyone out there. Like I've said, just trying to share my thoughts and gain some insights.
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« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2011, 05:41:50 PM »
I agree with HTC, Canon is lagging and hopefully this will light a fire within the company to actually announce / and or release something, anything.....

In another thread, Sony was mentioned as making serious waves which will leave Canon in it's wake if they don't react.

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« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2011, 06:52:34 PM »
canon is in INTELS postition in the camera market.

canon is no. 1 when it comes to sales figures.
despite the quake canon still makes profit.. unlike other companys.

canon does not have to be the first on the market with new products.

you don´t have to rush out new products when your old ones sell like sliced bread.
hell i could sell more stuff if i only had it.. the problem is that the quake made things even worse and there is not enough gear so my customers have to wait for some bodys and lenses.
 
and canon, believe me, sure does not need advices from some guys in internet forums. :)
they are well aware and positioned to react. 
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« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2011, 07:01:49 PM »
and canon, believe me, sure does not need advices from some guys in internet forums. :)
they are well aware and positioned to react.
Well, we all like to think that occasionally they read what is being written and change their plans if that's what their users want - not a startling or even Internet age concept (remember mail in response cards, Japanese like to use the French term "enquete?")

Aside from that I think you are correct in that Canon still has the dominant position.

However, it is an option question as to whether the competing technology (constant autofocus, newer Sony sensor tech, and EVFs all come to mind) are going to be either just a marketing bludgeon against the Canon SLR market, or if it will present people with real advantages over what Canon has (although I suppose it's also possible that Canon has some aces up its sleeve that we don't know about - of course I haven't heard anything about patents in some of these areas, and they would have been filed and I would have expected to read about them here).  In either case, they are something Canon surely has eyes on.

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« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2011, 07:12:51 PM »
Nikon has already announced its successors of its D700 and D3s, and they will be releasing it on the 24th August.

That's probably what Canon has been waiting for!  Wait for your competitor to announce their new product, so that you can trump them days/weeks later.  ;)
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« Reply #14 on: August 04, 2011, 03:28:08 AM »
Nikon has already announced its successors of its D700 and D3s, and they will be releasing it on the 24th August.

That's probably what Canon has been waiting for!  Wait for your competitor to announce their new product, so that you can trump them days/weeks later.  ;)

One can only hope the trumping is nowhere near à la adding additional numerical ISO figure without checking if it is going to be useful and up to one's standards.

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« Reply #14 on: August 04, 2011, 03:28:08 AM »