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Re: One lens for vacation
« Reply #15 on: April 17, 2013, 09:42:13 PM »
I personally own both and the reason I kept both is I keep telling myself I'm going to bring the 24-105 for travels as a one lens option. However, once I start using the 24-70, I soon found the difference between the 2 is way more than I imagined. Till today, I still own both bit I've not touched my 24-105 since for anything whatsoever.  I don't think I'll ever sacrifice what the 24-70 can give to use the 24-105 again

Ditto. Still have my 24-105, too...I've gone so far as to shoot product pics of it and dig out the original box, although I haven't actually listed it yet.
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Re: One lens for vacation
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Re: One lens for vacation
« Reply #16 on: April 17, 2013, 10:04:17 PM »
If this were an exercise in reading and interpreting te OP's request, most of you will get a FAIL.  He has his hands full with kids, won't have time to explore, and likes to shoot wide open.  Surely, a bulky lens won't work and neither will a small aperture solution.
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Re: One lens for vacation
« Reply #17 on: April 17, 2013, 10:14:01 PM »
I personally own both and the reason I kept both is I keep telling myself I'm going to bring the 24-105 for travels as a one lens option. However, once I start using the 24-70, I soon found the difference between the 2 is way more than I imagined. Till today, I still own both bit I've not touched my 24-105 since for anything whatsoever.  I don't think I'll ever sacrifice what the 24-70 can give to use the 24-105 again

Ditto. Still have my 24-105, too...I've gone so far as to shoot product pics of it and dig out the original box, although I haven't actually listed it yet.

Out of curiosity, how much did you shoot the 24-105 at 105, and how're you dealing with the shorter focal length?

I’ll observe that there's a bigger difference between 70 and 105 than there is between 85 and 100, the two most popular primes in that range...and that most people used to shooting a 100 chose it over an 85 for a reason, even if you can compensate....

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Re: One lens for vacation
« Reply #18 on: April 17, 2013, 10:14:28 PM »
+1 for the 24-70 2.8 II.  I used mine on my cruise to the Bahamas WAAAAAy more than I thought.  BTW, I brought everything but used this most of the time.
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Re: One lens for vacation
« Reply #19 on: April 17, 2013, 10:44:33 PM »
Ditto. Still have my 24-105, too...I've gone so far as to shoot product pics of it and dig out the original box, although I haven't actually listed it yet.

Out of curiosity, how much did you shoot the 24-105 at 105, and how're you dealing with the shorter focal length?

I’ll observe that there's a bigger difference between 70 and 105 than there is between 85 and 100, the two most popular primes in that range...and that most people used to shooting a 100 chose it over an 85 for a reason, even if you can compensate....
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I haven't missed the 70-105mm range, yet.  For many scenes, a step closer does the trick. Where I might actually miss the 24-105 (and probably the main reason I haven't sold it) is 'studio' portraits (lighting + backdrop).  I do that at f/9-10, the 24-105's IQ is excellent there, and the 105mm means decently tight portraits whereas 70mm doesn't work (too close, wrong perspective).
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Re: One lens for vacation
« Reply #20 on: April 17, 2013, 10:47:15 PM »
I recently did an unpaid sports shoot and although a number of the shots were published by a local newspaper (my first :)), I found out two things that are going to impact my next vacation kit. First, my 24-105 is soft on the edges wide open and marginal in low light even at high iso on the mark 3. Second, I get way better image quality with my 70-200 ii cropped than using the 2x extender. My advice if you are taking one lense is go for the 24-70 if you can afford it. I would if I could.
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Re: One lens for vacation
« Reply #21 on: April 17, 2013, 11:19:38 PM »
Where I might actually miss the 24-105 (and probably the main reason I haven't sold it) is 'studio' portraits (lighting + backdrop).  I do that at f/9-10, the 24-105's IQ is excellent there, and the 105mm means decently tight portraits whereas 70mm doesn't work (too close, wrong perspective).

Hmm...wouldn't the 70-200 trump the 24-105 in the 70-105 range?

(And I'm personally fond of the 180 for the kind of stopped-down tight studio portraits you describe. It's perfect for passport-style publicity head shots -- as if that was what it was designed for, rather than macro work.)

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Re: One lens for vacation
« Reply #22 on: April 17, 2013, 11:24:36 PM »
If you worry about being too far away (at the beach for example) with the 50, just get the 85 1.8 - very fast, not too bulky, fairly cheap should something happen to it, and perfect for you since you said "mostly candids/portraits".
 
Then get the 40 2.8 - may be bending the one lens rule but it's so small you could put it in your pocket if you needed something wider for general scenery / walkaround.

Both good for the wide open you like to shoot, and you can get both of those for less than the 24-105 even...

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« Reply #23 on: April 17, 2013, 11:32:50 PM »
Where I might actually miss the 24-105 (and probably the main reason I haven't sold it) is 'studio' portraits (lighting + backdrop).  I do that at f/9-10, the 24-105's IQ is excellent there, and the 105mm means decently tight portraits whereas 70mm doesn't work (too close, wrong perspective).

Hmm...wouldn't the 70-200 trump the 24-105 in the 70-105 range?

(And I'm personally fond of the 180 for the kind of stopped-down tight studio portraits you describe. It's perfect for passport-style publicity head shots -- as if that was what it was designed for, rather than macro work.)

Sure - but for pics of young kids, I don't have time to spend changing lenses...
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Re: One lens for vacation
« Reply #24 on: April 17, 2013, 11:44:38 PM »
I don't miss the 70-105 but the extra stop and sharpness more than make up for it. My favorite just miss the is of the 24-105. Would probably buy again if canon made a newer 24-135 f4 is with all their modern coatings and advancements then that would be a perfect vacation lens. Just bring a prime for low light and you would be set. Also another thought is you could rent the tamron 24-70vc for the trip if you want is.
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Re: One lens for vacation
« Reply #25 on: April 18, 2013, 01:23:33 AM »
au contraire!  I'd suggest the best single lens to take with either of your cameras is the 28-135is for the following
reasons.   It's relatively cheap to buy - around $300 - but has good enough image quality that it has been a standard  package zoom with many Canon bundles.  It's relatively cheap to buy so you're not going to break the
bank if it's damaged or stolen.  It doesn't weigh as much as some of the alternatives suggested here and most vacations I've been on involve a lot of walking without many "rest stops".  You can sell it after your vacation if it doesn't fit nicely into your long range lens plan and you won't lose much, if any, money.  If you decide to take the
50 crop sensor, the 18-135 is another similarly priced option.

Have you shot with it?  With a 5D3, I don't think the OP wanted to sacrifice IQ.  If IQ is not paramount, then an SX50 or SX40 P&S will serve the OP well.

The OP did not discuss IQ.  It would be helpful to know what will be done with the images, web, 4x6, large blowups (or tight crops and moderate blow ups)????

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Re: One lens for vacation
« Reply #26 on: April 18, 2013, 02:25:25 AM »
Dumb questions.

Is the difference between the 24-105 and the 24-70 II more than just an extra stop of speed with shallower DOF?

For vacation shots with a variety of subjects, including relatively still ones, could the IS on the 4.0 lens outweigh the benefits of the extra stop on the 24-70?

I know, the extra speed of the 2.8 24-70 offers cleaner action shots for it allows faster shutter speeds without having to push the ISO ceiling of the 5D3.  But, that ceiling is pretty high.

On the flip side, the IS on the 24-105 opens the door to whole new world of slow shutter speed creativity without a tripod.  A slow shutter speed can blur the movement of a crowd behind a relatively stationary subject.  Capturing the movement of water over rocks in a stream is another example.
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Re: One lens for vacation
« Reply #27 on: April 18, 2013, 05:19:53 AM »
If your kids are as fast as you say and if you're as old, fat and lazy as I am on a daily basis. I recommend bringing a 600 f4L IS USM so you can keep an eye on them. All kidding aside. 50 f1.2 or 35 1.4 are great general purpose lenses. 70-200 is ii for me would be hard to leave behind as an avid wildlife guy.
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Re: One lens for vacation
« Reply #28 on: April 18, 2013, 12:48:07 PM »
au contraire!  I'd suggest the best single lens to take with either of your cameras is the 28-135is for the following
reasons.   It's relatively cheap to buy - around $300 - but has good enough image quality that it has been a standard  package zoom with many Canon bundles.  It's relatively cheap to buy so you're not going to break the
bank if it's damaged or stolen.  It doesn't weigh as much as some of the alternatives suggested here and most vacations I've been on involve a lot of walking without many "rest stops".  You can sell it after your vacation if it doesn't fit nicely into your long range lens plan and you won't lose much, if any, money.  If you decide to take the
50 crop sensor, the 18-135 is another similarly priced option.

Have you shot with it?  With a 5D3, I don't think the OP wanted to sacrifice IQ.  If IQ is not paramount, then an SX50 or SX40 P&S will serve the OP well.

I had the 28-135, and to be honest its IQ and build are crap compared to the 24-105. Pardon my French ;)
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Re: One lens for vacation
« Reply #29 on: May 09, 2013, 05:19:13 PM »
If your kids are as fast as you say and if you're as old, fat and lazy as I am on a daily basis. I recommend bringing a 600 f4L IS USM so you can keep an eye on them. All kidding aside. 50 f1.2 or 35 1.4 are great general purpose lenses. 70-200 is ii for me would be hard to leave behind as an avid wildlife guy.

Ha ha!! I have contemplated cancelling the holiday in favour of using the funds for a 300 2.8 :)

I do like my prime lenses and borrowed a friends 85 1.2 last week, but don't have the $ to splash out on this lens at the moment.

I have decided to take the 50L which I am used to using, and buy the 135L which means a second lens but gives me a bit more of distance from the pool!!  This lens will also come in useful back home as I love my 70-200 f2.8, but sometimes it is too cumbersome with a kid in one hand and a beagle in the other!

Thanks to everyone for their advice!!

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