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Re: 24-105 &/or 24-70
« Reply #15 on: April 19, 2013, 06:53:11 PM »
I just don't see the points keeping the 105 - period.

One less lens in the bag, more money in your pocket or take the wife out for dinner ;D

Always have a backup, but he mentioned he doesnt shoot professionally so that may be a invalid reason for him.

That's why he should sell his 24-105 if he decided to get mrk II.

Invalid when you have too many lenses with similar focal range and not getting use. mrk II will out perform 105 at any focal range, including crop in PP to get 105 look.
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Re: 24-105 &/or 24-70
« Reply #15 on: April 19, 2013, 06:53:11 PM »

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Re: 24-105 &/or 24-70
« Reply #16 on: April 19, 2013, 06:56:42 PM »
My mind is made up! Thanks for all the comments & help! I am going to get ride of the 24-105 & buy a 24-70 MArk II. I have a 24-70 Mark II coming as a CPS loan to try it out in May......I might not even make it to May before I buy one! HAHA
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Re: 24-105 &/or 24-70
« Reply #17 on: April 19, 2013, 06:58:11 PM »
I just don't see the points keeping the 105 - period.

One less lens in the bag, more money in your pocket or take the wife out for dinner ;D

Always have a backup, but he mentioned he doesnt shoot professionally so that may be a invalid reason for him.

Invalid when you have too many lenses with similar focal range and not getting use. mrk II will out perform 105 at any focal range, including cropping in PP to get 105 look.

Ah that just solves the zoom problem but gives up the perspective. I see a value for both, if nothing else the 24-105 makes a great one lens travel solution.

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Re: 24-105 &/or 24-70
« Reply #18 on: April 19, 2013, 07:00:43 PM »
My mind is made up! Thanks for all the comments & help! I am going to get ride of the 24-105 & buy a 24-70 MArk II. I have a 24-70 Mark II coming as a CPS loan to try it out in May......I might not even make it to May before I buy one! HAHA

Don't say that too loud, you'll get the pro who thinks CPS is only for them in a tizzy. I'm sure you'll be happy, until of course the next object of desire comes out with a thin red line on the end :) 

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Re: 24-105 &/or 24-70
« Reply #19 on: April 19, 2013, 08:19:56 PM »
My mind is made up! Thanks for all the comments & help! I am going to get ride of the 24-105 & buy a 24-70 MArk II. I have a 24-70 Mark II coming as a CPS loan to try it out in May......I might not even make it to May before I buy one! HAHA

Let get ready to sell that 35L too, once mrk II arrived ;D   
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Re: 24-105 &/or 24-70
« Reply #20 on: April 19, 2013, 08:27:27 PM »
Let get ready to sell that 35L too, once mrk II arrived ;D   

Maybe. But the wide angle + thin DoF with a close subject is something you can't get with the 24-70/2.8 II.
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Re: 24-105 &/or 24-70
« Reply #21 on: April 19, 2013, 08:35:05 PM »
Both lenses are Bert capable. The 24-105 is more versatile and dot landscape i dont need 2.8. Since 24-105 is a lot cheaper it is an easy pick.

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Re: 24-105 &/or 24-70
« Reply #22 on: April 19, 2013, 09:29:29 PM »
I have both, may sell the 24-105L.  I suspect that a 'walkaround' shot from the 24-70 II at 70mm cropped would equal or beat the IQ of the 24-105 at 105mm (which is where the lens is weakest). 

Actually, the utility I can see for the 24-105 is for portraits in a studio-type setting.  While a 70mm image can be cropped, the perspective is not going to be the same as a shot at 105mm.  The shot at 105mm will be a much more appropriate perspective for a tight portrait.  In a studio setting, there's plenty of light and the background is controlled - so f/4 is fine.

Interesting, Ive always heard it sucked at 24.

On the 60D it is great, no issues at all.

But on the 5D, there is definitely some distortion and softness toward the edges.

Still, despite those flaws, I find it a much more versatile lens on the 5D than the 60D. Although the lens gave more reach at the telephoto end with the 60D, it often wasn't enough for true telephoto shooting so it could be a bit awkward sometimes...

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Re: 24-105 &/or 24-70
« Reply #23 on: April 20, 2013, 12:14:30 AM »
interesting, you don't think I should sell my 24-70 f/2.8L because I bought 24-105 f/4L??

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Re: 24-105 &/or 24-70
« Reply #24 on: April 20, 2013, 09:20:30 AM »
Let get ready to sell that 35L too, once mrk II arrived ;D   

Maybe. But the wide angle + thin DoF with a close subject is something you can't get with the 24-70/2.8 II.

I know...it was a joke ;D ;D ;D

Neuro, you have any pictures from 1D X + mrk II in low light?
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Re: 24-105 &/or 24-70
« Reply #25 on: April 27, 2013, 08:19:10 AM »
Hi,

Great thread! A question for the people that have had both: which is better for indoor, low light - events?

Thanks!

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Re: 24-105 &/or 24-70
« Reply #26 on: April 27, 2013, 09:25:52 AM »
Hi,

Great thread! A question for the people that have had both: which is better for indoor, low light - events?

Thanks!

By far the 24-70 f/2.8 version I or II would be better for low light than the 24-105 f/4 IS for objects in motion such as at events. The IS of the 24-105 only helps with stationary objects. The f/2.8 lets in twice as much light as the f/4.0 so that you can either have a shutter speed that is twice as fast or an ISO that is half as much for the same exposure. The high ISO capabilities of these newer cameras just keep getting better & better, making this low light/larger aperture issue less & less important. By NO means is it a non existent issue, just not as big of an issue as it has typically been.
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Re: 24-105 &/or 24-70
« Reply #27 on: April 27, 2013, 09:54:27 AM »
Ah that just solves the zoom problem but gives up the perspective. I see a value for both, if nothing else the 24-105 makes a great one lens travel solution.

If you are cropping a pic taken at 70 mm then that means that the plan is to keep the perspective the same. I guess you don't understand perspective. Perspective is based strictly on the distance between subject and camera.

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Re: 24-105 &/or 24-70
« Reply #28 on: May 03, 2013, 01:37:24 PM »
Just get the Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 VC and you get the best of both worlds. It is an awesome lens, great build quality, f/2.8 aperture, and image stabilization. How do you beat that! Plus it is way cheaper than even the version 1 Canon 24-70 f/2.8. The new V2 Canon 24-70 f/2.8 is a slightly bit sharper than the Tamron but the Tamron is still way better than what you have been using, the Canon 24-105mm and is even better than the new Canon 24-70 f/4L IS

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Re: 24-105 &/or 24-70
« Reply #29 on: May 06, 2013, 11:33:04 AM »
I have both, originally got the 24-105 and then added th 24-70 ii.  I use the 24-105 when I hand hold and / or want extra reach.  I use the 24-70 when I work from a tripod.  May sell one, not sur which.

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Re: 24-105 &/or 24-70
« Reply #29 on: May 06, 2013, 11:33:04 AM »