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270 ex ii or 430 exii for vacation
« on: April 23, 2013, 10:42:15 PM »
I am going to disney with my 5d. I have a 600 ex and want a lighter speedlite for portraits on the trip. Just torn because the 270 is small and seems like it will cover with my 24-70 ii. I do like the extra power of the 430 for fighting the outdoor lighting also but double the batteries and much larger. Anyone use the 270 in a similar situation and was happy or should i just lug the 430?
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270 ex ii or 430 exii for vacation
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Re: 270 ex ii or 430 exii for vacation
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2013, 04:08:12 AM »
I would go for the 430 because it does HSS. If you take the 270, the shutter speed won't go below 1/200 which will be too slow to stop action. (but yes, I get your point as I also dearly love the 270 for its pocketability, just remember turn it off when stopping action and when there is a lot of light as otherwise you end up with very bright pictures  ;D)

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Re: 270 ex ii or 430 exii for vacation
« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2013, 04:16:16 AM »
How about the 90EX? I've read that, when controlled from the camera's menu's, it has quite interesting functionality, such as acting as a flash trigger. It's very cheap and compact and may be useful as a small fill flash. I do not have personal experience with the 90EX, but would be interested to hear from people who have.
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Re: 270 ex ii or 430 exii for vacation
« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2013, 05:31:20 AM »
Anything below a 430 is just a toy really.  430 is a great head, with linked zoom, sensor crop detection, 2nd curtain, hss, flash modelling preview etc.

BUT!!!

If you are willing to carry a 430EX is it really that much of a difference in carrying the gun you already have?  The 600?

Why not expand rather than augment your kit?  It's not like the 430EX is much use to you in a system with the 600 (i.e you can't do multi off camera flash mixing radio and E-TTL wireless)

I would take the 600, and spend the flashgun money on a video monopod (manfrotto 680B or similar) as the pivot foot will be great for panning shots with slow shutter as the family pass on the roller coaster.  Or plug a gap in your lens range.

Just seems excessive.

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Re: 270 ex ii or 430 exii for vacation
« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2013, 06:53:54 AM »
Flash shooting directly at your subject is awful, and bouncing light from above gives racoon eyes.  Get the 430 ex and bounce the light from side walls and you will be much happier with the results.  Much happier.
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Re: 270 ex ii or 430 exii for vacation
« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2013, 07:10:15 AM »
Flash shooting directly at your subject is awful, and bouncing light from above gives racoon eyes.  Get the 430 ex and bounce the light from side walls and you will be much happier with the results.  Much happier.

See the thing about bouncing it is hard since some of the shots are in wide open areas like a restaurant or indoor character shots at disney where they are not near a wall and your limited. I am going to a crowded disney for the 4th and any flash would be fine since its just the kids and mickey or whatever. I would love to bring my 600 and spend thh money on another but the 270 seems to offer a small travel flash that will give light for a quick candid. Still considering the 430. Now if canon put out a 430 with rt by then I would have just grabbed one of them.
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Re: 270 ex ii or 430 exii for vacation
« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2013, 07:35:35 AM »
Visited Singapore last week. Used 270EX for fill flash many times. The power was just not enough outdoor. Flash power is not at all enough if you think of bouncing. Always felt need of higher end flash.

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Re: 270 ex ii or 430 exii for vacation
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Re: 270 ex ii or 430 exii for vacation
« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2013, 08:24:20 AM »
I will say that I've not used anything below the 430, but I think for $203 right now on the refurb store a 430 is a steal. Great value. And I've never had any issue carrying it, and I do find it noticeably smaller and lighter than my 580, and especially if you're already bringing a 5d sized camera with a 24-70, I don't think the 430 would be the straw that breaks your back...

Have fun! I've been wanting to get back to disney for a while now...
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Re: 270 ex ii or 430 exii for vacation
« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2013, 08:32:43 AM »
Yip, where's that RT replacement for the 430?   If it where I, the 430 or 600 with a Stofen.

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Re: 270 ex ii or 430 exii for vacation
« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2013, 09:38:44 AM »
with a Stofen.

why? for outdoor shots, it's not like the flash is going to bounce off of anything... a sto-fen would just cost you flash power.
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Re: 270 ex ii or 430 exii for vacation
« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2013, 10:40:00 AM »
with a Stofen.

why? for outdoor shots, it's not like the flash is going to bounce off of anything... a sto-fen would just cost you flash power.

People shots, fill flash, softening, don't see how your going to be able to us a bounce flash much if at all at Disneyland.

I'd also use manual and dial it down a bit too for close-ups

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Re: 270 ex ii or 430 exii for vacation
« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2013, 10:50:49 AM »
You could do a lot worse thsn the 320ex, perfect size and power for what you need and a built in video light to boot!!

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Re: 270 ex ii or 430 exii for vacation
« Reply #12 on: May 10, 2013, 12:06:36 PM »
430II because the recycle time on the 270II is ridiculous.

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Re: 270 ex ii or 430 exii for vacation
« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2013, 12:20:31 PM »
Just bring your 600 rt. use the money to get another good camera bag that will just carry what you will bring.

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Re: 270 ex ii or 430 exii for vacation
« Reply #14 on: May 10, 2013, 12:23:27 PM »
If you are looking to leave your expensive gear at home with the 600, a Yongnuo YN568EX might fit the bill.  Read some good reviews on them, have yet to try.  I do have both the 600 and the 430 though.  May try a Yongnuo for some off camera stuff, but what I read is that it is a decent option for on camera as well and does HSS.

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Re: 270 ex ii or 430 exii for vacation
« Reply #14 on: May 10, 2013, 12:23:27 PM »