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Screw-on ND filter for 16-35 II
« on: April 25, 2013, 10:10:28 AM »
Anyone used this B+W 10-Stop ND filter on their 16-35 II? I am wondering how bad the vignetting will be if this filter is used (could not find a slim version from B+W) on the lens at 16mm focal length, stopped down to f8, f11, etc. The lens will be paired with a 5D3.

I would get the Lee's Big Stopper but the wait time is ridiculous. Saw some on eBay, and people there are selling the Big Stopper for $250 (2filter, BnH sells them for around $140).

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Screw-on ND filter for 16-35 II
« on: April 25, 2013, 10:10:28 AM »

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Re: Screw-on ND filter for 16-35 II
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2013, 10:23:11 AM »
 I've been using it on a 17-40 L and 24-105 L with no problem.  (and can actually focus using live view ).  No issues with  vignetting on this lens , I'm pretty pleased with the B+W black glass .

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Re: Screw-on ND filter for 16-35 II
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2013, 10:26:38 AM »
I own the 16-35 II & the B&W 10-stop. However, sadly, I haven't used the 10-stop on the 16-35 yet. :(
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Re: Screw-on ND filter for 16-35 II
« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2013, 10:33:39 AM »
I have the LEE Filter system, I recently bought the big stopper on ebay for around $200 and it took about a week for delivery.
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Re: Screw-on ND filter for 16-35 II
« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2013, 10:34:50 AM »
Here's a few examples of long time exposures with the B+W .

_K8A0116 by barrfly1, on Flickr


_MG_0245 by barrfly1, on Flickr


_MG_0216 by barrfly1, on Flickr

 The last photo has the color cast intact , it's not terrible .
If you do decide to go with the screw on filter, don't forget to purchase some stop-down rings so you can use it on other lenses !
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Re: Screw-on ND filter for 16-35 II
« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2013, 10:43:08 AM »
I ordered my Lee big stopper (about $170 currently) from 2filter.com along with a my complete Lee "kit".

I might have timed it well, but I got my big stopper in about 2-3 weeks. Other items have taken longer.

They don't charge you until it ships.

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Re: Screw-on ND filter for 16-35 II
« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2013, 10:50:52 AM »
Here's a few examples of long time exposures with the B+W .


 The last photo has the color cast intact , it's not terrible .
If you do decide to go with the screw on filter, don't forget to purchase some stop-down rings so you can use it on other lenses !

Gorgeous shots. I feel inspired to use my ND filters more.
Do you need 10 stops to accomplish this? Can you make do with 6 stops ND?

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Re: Screw-on ND filter for 16-35 II
« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2013, 10:50:52 AM »

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Re: Screw-on ND filter for 16-35 II
« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2013, 11:03:33 AM »
Here's a few examples of long time exposures with the B+W .


 The last photo has the color cast intact , it's not terrible .
If you do decide to go with the screw on filter, don't forget to purchase some stop-down rings so you can use it on other lenses !

Gorgeous shots. I feel inspired to use my ND filters more.
Do you need 10 stops to accomplish this? Can you make do with 6 stops ND?

Opinions?

 I usually shoot 30 second or longer but to get the effect in the above photos it's probably overkill.  Depending on the rate of movement of the subject ( in this case water.) you could get the same misty, foggy results at shorter exposures. Clouds on the other hand tend to move slower so take more time to capture movement. 

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Re: Screw-on ND filter for 16-35 II
« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2013, 11:32:00 AM »
Related question for those using ND filters, since I've never used one but am starting to get inspired: is it worth getting MRC? On UV and CPL filters, it doesn't seem to affect the price as much- but for some reason, the MRC version of B+W's 10-stop is twice as expensive as the single-coated version... would love to hear thoughts on the matter!

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Re: Screw-on ND filter for 16-35 II
« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2013, 11:57:13 AM »
I have been impressed enough with Haida's new Pro MC II filters in 77mm that I recently purchase one for my Tamron in 82mm.  I have both a ND1000 (10 stop) and ND64 (6 stop).  The filter ring is very, very slim and produces very little vignetting.

Here's a few on the 17-40L:


Anchored in the Light [Explored December 7th, 2012] by Thousand Word Images by Dustin Abbott, on Flickr


Sheltered by Thousand Word Images by Dustin Abbott, on Flickr


Room With a View by Thousand Word Images by Dustin Abbott, on Flickr

Here's another shot with the ND64 on the Tamron:


Still Winter, Still Beautiful by Thousand Word Images by Dustin Abbott, on Flickr

They are available on Ebay for about $80 and are very high quality filters.  They are German made with high quality Schott glass.  I've been impressed.
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Re: Screw-on ND filter for 16-35 II
« Reply #10 on: April 25, 2013, 12:03:37 PM »
Wow! Lovely images from Barrfly and Dustin! I am very very interested in the Haida's ND now, and for $80 only? That sounds like a real steal! I know ND tends to produce some form of color cast, but as long as they are very minimal it should be ok and can be handled in pp. So Dustin, have you noticed any significant color cast from the Haida's?

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Re: Screw-on ND filter for 16-35 II
« Reply #11 on: April 25, 2013, 12:15:51 PM »
If you custom WB with the ND filter on, does that now eliminate any color cast?

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Re: Screw-on ND filter for 16-35 II
« Reply #12 on: April 25, 2013, 01:15:59 PM »
Wow! Lovely images from Barrfly and Dustin! I am very very interested in the Haida's ND now, and for $80 only? That sounds like a real steal! I know ND tends to produce some form of color cast, but as long as they are very minimal it should be ok and can be handled in pp. So Dustin, have you noticed any significant color cast from the Haida's?

I would say there is a slight (and I mean very slight) magenta shift, but it is definitely pretty negligible.  I have been really impressed with how clean the images come out.  I haven't noticed any color shift in my experience with the ND64, but I've also only used it a couple of times.  LE's don't work as well in winter here because no water is moving :)
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Re: Screw-on ND filter for 16-35 II
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Re: Screw-on ND filter for 16-35 II
« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2013, 07:03:56 PM »
You shouldn't see additional vignetting with the F-Pro mount on the 16-35L II.


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Re: Screw-on ND filter for 16-35 II
« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2013, 12:02:00 AM »
You shouldn't see additional vignetting with the F-Pro mount on the 16-35L II.




Thanks a lot for that chart neuro. That helped! ^_^

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Re: Screw-on ND filter for 16-35 II
« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2013, 12:02:00 AM »