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I photograph mostly people (in action and portraits) and landscapes, and since I bought my 5D II, I have only a 50mm 1.4!

Before I buy a 70-200 II or a 135L, I feel like I need a standard zoom, there's no way to run from it.

The 24-70 II is not an option for me now, sorry guys! I know I should buy it, I know, but I'll buy the 70-200 II for that money later this year.

(I could also buy a 135L and use it with the 50, that would be awesome for portraits, but I think I'd loose some opportunities if I had these two only).

Thanks.

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Re: 24-70 f2.8 I L --- 24-105 f4 L --- TAMRON 24-70 2.8 --- 1000$ budget.
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2013, 12:30:23 PM »
Personally, I'd recommend a 24-105L + 100mm f/2. You can find 24-105L brand new on evilbay from the 700$'s and a used 100mm F/2 around 400$'s.

A 24-70 is general purpose lens, that can do portraits but if you do alot of it, a Prime is nicer.

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Re: 24-70 f2.8 I L --- 24-105 f4 L --- TAMRON 24-70 2.8 --- 1000$ budget.
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2013, 01:10:55 PM »
Hi!

I photograph mostly people (in action and portraits) and landscapes, and since I bought my 5D II, I have only a 50mm 1.4!

Before I buy a 70-200 II or a 135L, I feel like I need a standard zoom, there's no way to run from it.

The 24-70 II is not an option for me now, sorry guys! I know I should buy it, I know, but I'll buy the 70-200 II for that money later this year.

(I could also buy a 135L and use it with the 50, that would be awesome for portraits, but I think I'd loose some opportunities if I had these two only).

Thanks.

If you dont have any standard zoom at all, in a way you're fortunate because you now have more options than I did. I have the 24-105L. As I mentioned in another thread, it's a good lens but nobody actually loves it. Most people find it a useful workhorse. If I were you I'd give tamron a shot. It costs half as much as the new canon 24-70 but has level of performance. You only give up the red ring. I'm thinking of selling my 24-105. You're lucky you don't need to struggle over the same thing. 
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Re: 24-70 f2.8 I L --- 24-105 f4 L --- TAMRON 24-70 2.8 --- 1000$ budget.
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2013, 01:27:35 PM »
If $1,000 is your budget, the Canon 24-105 is really your best option unless you can find a used copy of the Tamron 24-70 2.8 VC, since they go for $1,300 new.

The 24-105L is a very good all purpose lens, best for daylight and flash photography.  Your 50 1.4 can handle most of your low-light photography needs.
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Re: 24-70 f2.8 I L --- 24-105 f4 L --- TAMRON 24-70 2.8 --- 1000$ budget.
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2013, 01:27:40 PM »
Of those three the tamron offers the most quality IMHO, but you can't go wrong with any of them. I chose the tamron earlier this year because it was better than my copy of the 24-70i and offered IS. I tried the 24-70ii and while awesome it wasn't a $1000 more awesome than the tamron. I now don't blink twice shooting at 1/15 and 70mm. The IS of the tamron made it a far more versatile lens to me than the canon. It's now my primary landscaping, people, one lens travel solution.  I really hate my tripod so the IS is great for me when I get out to do landscapes.

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Re: 24-70 f2.8 I L --- 24-105 f4 L --- TAMRON 24-70 2.8 --- 1000$ budget.
« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2013, 03:25:00 PM »
Do you live in the US ... if so, for under $1000 the only option is 24-105 f/4 L IS ... the Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 VC sells for almost $1300 in US ... but a few months ago I bought brand new Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 VC from Amazon Japan for $1048 ... currently it is selling at $965 in Amazon.co.jp
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Re: 24-70 f2.8 I L --- 24-105 f4 L --- TAMRON 24-70 2.8 --- 1000$ budget.
« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2013, 07:09:52 AM »
Do you live in the US ... if so, for under $1000 the only option is 24-105 f/4 L IS ... the Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 VC sells for almost $1300 in US ... but a few months ago I bought brand new Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 VC from Amazon Japan for $1048 ... currently it is selling at $965 in Amazon.co.jp

I don't have any experience buying cameras or lenses outside the US.  Are there any taxes or duties that are applied if I were to buy from Amazon Japan?
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Re: 24-70 f2.8 I L --- 24-105 f4 L --- TAMRON 24-70 2.8 --- 1000$ budget.
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Re: 24-70 f2.8 I L --- 24-105 f4 L --- TAMRON 24-70 2.8 --- 1000$ budget.
« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2013, 08:32:16 AM »
Do you live in the US ... if so, for under $1000 the only option is 24-105 f/4 L IS ... the Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 VC sells for almost $1300 in US ... but a few months ago I bought brand new Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 VC from Amazon Japan for $1048 ... currently it is selling at $965 in Amazon.co.jp

I don't have any experience buying cameras or lenses outside the US.  Are there any taxes or duties that are applied if I were to buy from Amazon Japan?

You also won't get USA warranty.....
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Re: 24-70 f2.8 I L --- 24-105 f4 L --- TAMRON 24-70 2.8 --- 1000$ budget.
« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2013, 08:43:16 AM »
I live in Brazil, but I'm going to US next month.
I think I'll take a deeper look at the Tamron then, it's hard to give up on the red ring because I need to be sure I don't get a bad copy. Usually that happens more with third party lenses, and when I come back I wont be able to change it.

Have you guys heard about the 24-70 f4? I just don't understand this lens... Does it have better IQ then the 24-105 f4?

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Re: 24-70 f2.8 I L --- 24-105 f4 L --- TAMRON 24-70 2.8 --- 1000$ budget.
« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2013, 09:24:23 AM »
Do you live in the US ... if so, for under $1000 the only option is 24-105 f/4 L IS ... the Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 VC sells for almost $1300 in US ... but a few months ago I bought brand new Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 VC from Amazon Japan for $1048 ... currently it is selling at $965 in Amazon.co.jp

I was intrigued. I looked into it and indeed it is far cheaper due to exchange rate. I wonder if they ship internationally....I wish I knew somebody in Japan. That would work out nicely.
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Re: 24-70 f2.8 I L --- 24-105 f4 L --- TAMRON 24-70 2.8 --- 1000$ budget.
« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2013, 09:45:14 AM »
I have both the 24-105L and the 24-70VC and the Tamron is significantly superior in every way. Since you're going to get a 70-200 later, you won't miss the 70-105.

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Re: 24-70 f2.8 I L --- 24-105 f4 L --- TAMRON 24-70 2.8 --- 1000$ budget.
« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2013, 09:52:09 AM »
Have you guys heard about the 24-70 f4? I just don't understand this lens... Does it have better IQ then the 24-105 f4?

IQ is similar (slightly better at some focal lengths, worse at others).  It's a little smaller and lighter. Main advantage is the 24-70/4 IS is also a near-macro lens.  This morning I needed to switch from my 24-70/2.8 II to the 100L for some close-ups (0.4-0.5x), wouldn't have had to do that with the 24-70/4.  But that doesn't happen often enough to make the 24-70/4 interesting to me, especially at its current price.
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Re: 24-70 f2.8 I L --- 24-105 f4 L --- TAMRON 24-70 2.8 --- 1000$ budget.
« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2013, 10:17:08 AM »
I live in Brazil, but I'm going to US next month.
I think I'll take a deeper look at the Tamron then, it's hard to give up on the red ring because I need to be sure I don't get a bad copy. Usually that happens more with third party lenses, and when I come back I wont be able to change it.

Have you guys heard about the 24-70 f4? I just don't understand this lens... Does it have better IQ then the 24-105 f4?

I'm starting to get feedback from pros using the new 24-70 f4 that's very positive - in practice better 'IQ' than 24-105, but time will tell.

In the States the 24-105 seems to be really cheap compared with here in Europe, where it's about £400 cheaper than the 24-70 f4. Still significant difference

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Re: 24-70 f2.8 I L --- 24-105 f4 L --- TAMRON 24-70 2.8 --- 1000$ budget.
« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2013, 11:00:40 AM »
Do you live in the US ... if so, for under $1000 the only option is 24-105 f/4 L IS ... the Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 VC sells for almost $1300 in US ... but a few months ago I bought brand new Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 VC from Amazon Japan for $1048 ... currently it is selling at $965 in Amazon.co.jp

When my aging 24-105 died, I found an excellent used copy of the original 24-70 for slightly more than 1000. I've since seen others in that price range.
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Re: 24-70 f2.8 I L --- 24-105 f4 L --- TAMRON 24-70 2.8 --- 1000$ budget.
« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2013, 01:32:05 PM »
When my aging 24-105 died, I found an excellent used copy of the original 24-70 for slightly more than 1000. I've since seen others in that price range.

Me, too...but only before the MkII came out.  Now, I see them in the $1200-1400 range.
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