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70d out in time?
« on: April 28, 2013, 08:02:14 PM »
I am new to DSLR's and will be traveling to Europe for a little over a month (leaving June 10th). I am pretty set on the XXD line, but would be interested in other suggestions. I was rather hopeful of the April 23rd announcement date, but now that has come and gone and no 70D. So do you guys 1) think the 70d bill be released before I leave? Or 2) think I should go for the 60D, or another suggestion.
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70d out in time?
« on: April 28, 2013, 08:02:14 PM »

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Re: 70d out in time?
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2013, 08:56:25 PM »
There will be no 70d by Jun 10th
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Re: 70d out in time?
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2013, 09:06:03 PM »
Even if it is announced as soon as next week, I doubt that it will be available in market by June 10th.

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Re: 70d out in time?
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2013, 09:15:30 PM »
That's what I figured, maybe I just didn't want to hear it. Does anyone have DSLR suggestions, especially for travel photography?
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Re: 70d out in time?
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2013, 09:22:32 PM »
Right now you can pick up a refurbished T4i for $515 direct from Canon. If you need more power, the 7D can be had for $1074.

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Re: 70d out in time?
« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2013, 09:49:14 PM »
Right now you can pick up a refurbished T4i for $515 direct from Canon. If you need more power, the 7D can be had for $1074.

I always hear about the poor low light performance of the 7D, how does it compare to the 60D/rebel line low light capabilities.
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Re: 70d out in time?
« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2013, 10:28:59 PM »
Right now you can pick up a refurbished T4i for $515 direct from Canon. If you need more power, the 7D can be had for $1074.

I always hear about the poor low light performance of the 7D, how does it compare to the 60D/rebel line low light capabilities.

I use a 550D, which reportedly has slightly better sensor performance than the 7D (see BJP review).  The 7D came out first and the 550D and 60D afterwards, so I'd expect the 60D to be similar to the 550D.   But if you go to the review of the 60D at DPReview, the section on noise, you can use the little drop-down things to facilitate a direct comparison between all sorts of cameras.  Also try DxO Mark.  The 550D actually gets a better score than the more recent rebels.

However as pointed out repeatedly on these forums the 7D, 550D, 600D, 650D, 700D, 100D and EOS-M all have pretty much the same sensor and it is probably splitting hairs between them in terms of noise, the differences are more in ergonomics, price, build, fps, configurability, viewfinder etc etc.

Do you anticipate doing other types of shooting (eg sports / nature) in the future apart from just travel?  If you don't mind the bulk of a DSLR &/or prefer the broad choice of lenses then that's ok, otherwise consider other small-camera options like the Olympus OM-D, Fuji X100S, Sony RX100, etc etc.  But if you really are set on a Canon DSLR and I was in your position I would probably buy either a new 650D or 60D or a 2nd hand 550D, 600D or 60D, use it for your trip and then decide what you want to do when the 70D is released (i.e. probably sell it).  It will be cheaper than renting, much better than having no camera at all, you won't lose much money and you'll get a bit of a feel for what you like and don't like about the camera.   Good luck!

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Re: 70d out in time?
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Re: 70d out in time?
« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2013, 10:51:20 PM »
Right now you can pick up a refurbished T4i for $515 direct from Canon. If you need more power, the 7D can be had for $1074.

I always hear about the poor low light performance of the 7D, how does it compare to the 60D/rebel line low light capabilities.
T2i -> 7D all have roughly the same low light performance. 
Upgrade  path.->means the former was sold for the latter.

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Re: 70d out in time?
« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2013, 10:59:29 PM »
How much cash do you have to spend?  Low light performance won't improve dramatically until you get to a 5D mkii or a 6D. 

I suspect that the 70D will be around $1100 for the body and maybe $1400 with a 18-135mm STM.  And you won't find a lower price on it for a few months... Christmas time. 

You can get a 5D mkii for around $1400 (refurbished), so for a $300, that is a SIGNIFICANT UPGRADE.

As an FYI, I recently sold a new 60D via Craig's List for $600.  I do not believe the 70D will be a $500 upgrade.
Upgrade  path.->means the former was sold for the latter.

XS->60D->5d Mkiii:18-55->24-105L:75-300->55-250->70-300->70-200 f4L USM->70-200 f/2.8L USM->70-200 f/2.8L IS Mkii:50 f/1.8->50 f/1.4->100 f/2.8L->85mm f/1.8 USM->135L -> 8mm ->100L

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Re: 70d out in time?
« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2013, 12:26:26 AM »
Get a camera with GPS.

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Re: 70d out in time?
« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2013, 12:32:15 AM »
I am set on going Canon, I actually have already owned a 60D, but returned it when I found out the 70D was imminent. So I actually already own a 50mm 1.8 and Tamron 18-270 VC PZD, as well as some accessories (intervalometer, extra LP-E6, SD Cards...etc)

During my time owning the 60D, I mostly shot landscape/sunset and night street photography. I also will be assisting my sister in shooting a Wedding as well, it will be a nice to get my feet wet into wedding photography.

The amount that I want to spend is tentatively $2000, but I could see myself selling the Tamron, and forking up a little bit more to get a 6D w/ 24-105mm f/4 IS, but then again, I don't know if I could justify the price for essentially a "first-time" DSLR. The GPS feature will be great for traveling being that I will be in 7 different countries while I am in Europe.
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Re: 70d out in time?
« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2013, 12:37:07 AM »
IThe amount that I want to spend is tentatively $2000, but I could see myself selling the Tamron, and forking up a little bit more to get a 6D w/ 24-105mm f/4 IS, but then again, I don't know if I could justify the price for essentially a "first-time" DSLR. The GPS feature will be great for traveling being that I will be in 7 different countries while I am in Europe.

this is the best option in my opinion

the tamron 18-270 is possibly one of the very worst lenses ever made by anyone

even though you have the 50 1.8 I would still recomend the 40mm pancake on the 6D just because that lens on a high iso FF camera is such a nice light walk around combo that would be prefectly suited for travel and 50mm can be a little tight also you need to stop the 50mm 1.8 down to around 2.2 anyway
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Re: 70d out in time?
« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2013, 02:45:58 AM »
6D with 24-105 for around $2399.88 with rebate. F4 zoom is not optimum set up. You would have to learn your 50mm 1.8 very quickly for low light wedding photos. Then save for 70-200 F2.8 IS ll. As you already have SD cards, 6D is what you should research and possibly buy. Research what Cameras are in shops now, not wait for rumours to appear.
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« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2013, 03:05:58 AM »
Right now you can pick up a refurbished T4i for $515 direct from Canon. If you need more power, the 7D can be had for $1074.

I always hear about the poor low light performance of the 7D, how does it compare to the 60D/rebel line low light capabilities.
Same sensor.  Very little difference in performance.  Plus, if you could afford a 7D, you should spare a little cash as used 5D mark II's tend to be very lowly priced nowadays.
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Re: 70d out in time?
« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2013, 05:59:33 AM »
I am new to DSLR's and will be traveling to Europe for a little over a month (leaving June 10th). I am pretty set on the XXD line, but would be interested in other suggestions. I was rather hopeful of the April 23rd announcement date, but now that has come and gone and no 70D. So do you guys 1) think the 70d bill be released before I leave? Or 2) think I should go for the 60D, or another suggestion.

As said before, the 70D won't be out in time.
I suggest you go for the 60D, there are some quite amazing deals out there for this camera. At my local electronics discounter they almost throw it at you, it's so cheap. The 7D is quite a bit bigger and heavier, not something you usually like for travelling, and its a bit more complex to understand and work with. The xxxD series is okay, but it lacks some nice feature (second LCD on top, bigger viewfinder). So the 60D is nice.

Normaly you get a more or less nice lens with the discount 60D package. First choice would be the 15-85, but usually it sells with the 18-135 which is quite okay for travelling, and a step up from the Tamron soupzoom. There is still some money left from you budget, I would suggest you buy a wide angle for that; Canon EF-S 10-22mm or Sigma 8-16mm are good options.

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Re: 70d out in time?
« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2013, 05:59:33 AM »