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Re: EF 100-400 Replacement in 2013? [CR2]
« Reply #15 on: April 29, 2013, 11:11:54 AM »
Good, maybe see a price drop in 100-400's soon then!

unlikely i think.

the price is about 1300 euros here.. why should canon lower the price when the new one cost around 2500-3000 euro?

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« Reply #16 on: April 29, 2013, 11:13:48 AM »
...could be a marketing nightmare selling expensive zooms coming out at the same time (approx) with overlapping focal lengths..

Yeah, that makes sense.  I'm sure VW and Chrysler are just as worried about the marketing nightmare of internal competition from their Porsche and Mercedes subsidiaries.  Just like the 100-400 vs. 200-400, there's bound to be a lot of overlap in the customer base.
Chrysler is not Daimler any longer, it's Fiat and Porsche actually owns a large chunk of VW. But your point is still valid.

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« Reply #17 on: April 29, 2013, 11:18:53 AM »
Good, maybe see a price drop in 100-400's soon then!

...or the production will end soon, so the rest of the 100-400 will be sold out and you have to buy the new one.

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« Reply #18 on: April 29, 2013, 11:25:06 AM »
So, let me be sure I understand this (of course it is all speculation).  My recent $1100 refurb 100-400 will be obsolete once this is released and I'll run out and spend 3 times that much for the replacement?   ???

Somehow, I don't think so.....
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« Reply #19 on: April 29, 2013, 11:31:03 AM »
So, let me be sure I understand this (of course it is all speculation).  My recent $1100 refurb 100-400 will be obsolete once this is released and I'll run out and spend 3 times that much for the replacement?   ???

Somehow, I don't think so.....


you have to.. or you will be banned from this forum.

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« Reply #20 on: April 29, 2013, 11:43:02 AM »
I see no reason to either be excited or care about Canon lens releases anymore.  With Nikon taking the lead in inflated pricing with the 80-400mm by charging a mind-blowing $2700, Canon is certain to do the same.

Since upgrading to FF, I've bought and returned a 24-70 F4 IS and a 35mm IS.  I bet you can guess what I went with instead ;D  I have also scrapped plans to buy the 70-200mm F2.8 IS L v2, targeting the Tamron F2.8 VC instead.

The days where Canon and Nikon could command massive margins over 3rd party due to higher quality are gone.  H*ll, they can't even get rebates right.  That last round increased pricing on half the items.

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« Reply #21 on: April 29, 2013, 11:44:30 AM »
I see no reason to either be excited or care about Canon lens releases anymore.  With Nikon taking the lead in inflated pricing with the 80-400mm by charging a mind-blowing $2700, Canon is certain to do the same.

Since upgrading to FF, I've bought and returned a 24-70 F4 IS and a 35mm IS.  I bet you can guess what I went with instead ;D  I have also scrapped plans to buy the 70-200mm F2.8 IS L v2, targeting the Tamron F2.8 VC instead.

The days where Canon and Nikon could command massive margins over 3rd party due to higher quality are gone.  H*ll, they can't even get rebates right.  That last round increased pricing on half the items.

My daughter would say: +1

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« Reply #21 on: April 29, 2013, 11:44:30 AM »

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« Reply #22 on: April 29, 2013, 11:47:04 AM »
I see no reason to either be excited or care about Canon lens releases anymore.  With Nikon taking the lead in inflated pricing with the 80-400mm by charging a mind-blowing $2700, Canon is certain to do the same.

Since upgrading to FF, I've bought and returned a 24-70 F4 IS and a 35mm IS.  I bet you can guess what I went with instead ;D  I have also scrapped plans to buy the 70-200mm F2.8 IS L v2, targeting the Tamron F2.8 VC instead.

The days where Canon and Nikon could command massive margins over 3rd party due to higher quality are gone.  H*ll, they can't even get rebates right.  That last round increased pricing on half the items.

so what other 100-400mm lens you have in mind....  ::)

it´s great when you have alternatives... no question.
but i don´t really see one for the 100-400mm, do you?

sigma?  not the existing sigma lenses. nah.. sorry.

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Re: EF 100-400 Replacement in 2013? [CR2]
« Reply #23 on: April 29, 2013, 11:51:59 AM »
I see no reason to either be excited or care about Canon lens releases anymore.  With Nikon taking the lead in inflated pricing with the 80-400mm by charging a mind-blowing $2700, Canon is certain to do the same.

Since upgrading to FF, I've bought and returned a 24-70 F4 IS and a 35mm IS.  I bet you can guess what I went with instead ;D  I have also scrapped plans to buy the 70-200mm F2.8 IS L v2, targeting the Tamron F2.8 VC instead.

The days where Canon and Nikon could command massive margins over 3rd party due to higher quality are gone.  H*ll, they can't even get rebates right.  That last round increased pricing on half the items.

As we can see, other 3rd party manufacturers can produce good lenses too. The new Sigmas or Tamrons show that. Some of you, who are technical fetishists, will say that the Canon lenses are about 5% better... But will this matter? If Canon will raise their pricing, I have other options.
That is like the mobile phone bubble. Do you realley need the iPhone 5? Or will an 3 or 4S be enough for you too?

I like the technical progress too. But there will be an limit if there is an big gap in price and performance.

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Re: EF 100-400 Replacement in 2013? [CR2]
« Reply #24 on: April 29, 2013, 11:57:28 AM »
I see no reason to either be excited or care about Canon lens releases anymore.  With Nikon taking the lead in inflated pricing with the 80-400mm by charging a mind-blowing $2700, Canon is certain to do the same.

Since upgrading to FF, I've bought and returned a 24-70 F4 IS and a 35mm IS.  I bet you can guess what I went with instead ;D  I have also scrapped plans to buy the 70-200mm F2.8 IS L v2, targeting the Tamron F2.8 VC instead.

The days where Canon and Nikon could command massive margins over 3rd party due to higher quality are gone.  H*ll, they can't even get rebates right.  That last round increased pricing on half the items.

so what other 100-400mm lens you have in mind....  ::)

it´s great when you have alternatives... no question.
but i don´t really see one for the 100-400mm, do you?

sigma?  not the existing sigma lenses. nah.. sorry.

Today there is no real alternative to the 100-400. Canon knows that. But I´ll be glad, thath the other manufacturers will react on this situation.

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Re: EF 100-400 Replacement in 2013? [CR2]
« Reply #25 on: April 29, 2013, 11:59:52 AM »
I see no reason to either be excited or care about Canon lens releases anymore.  With Nikon taking the lead in inflated pricing with the 80-400mm by charging a mind-blowing $2700, Canon is certain to do the same.

Since upgrading to FF, I've bought and returned a 24-70 F4 IS and a 35mm IS.  I bet you can guess what I went with instead ;D  I have also scrapped plans to buy the 70-200mm F2.8 IS L v2, targeting the Tamron F2.8 VC instead.

The days where Canon and Nikon could command massive margins over 3rd party due to higher quality are gone.  H*ll, they can't even get rebates right.  That last round increased pricing on half the items.

I love my Canon gear for sure. But the Sticker price shock is wearing me down too.
Now I'm keeping a much closer eye on the competition than I ever did before, including bodies and whole systems. I can't say that I'm going to jump ship, but a few years ago even the thought of considering it never entered my mind. I guess I was confident that Canon would always be the best value gear (FF) for me. But the competition is fierce in every arena today, and Canon needs to to go all in to stay ahead.

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Re: EF 100-400 Replacement in 2013? [CR2]
« Reply #26 on: April 29, 2013, 12:03:52 PM »
Today there is no real alternative to the 100-400. Canon knows that. But I´ll be glad, thath the other manufacturers will react on this situation.

so in 2 years we maybe have an alternative...  ;)

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« Reply #27 on: April 29, 2013, 12:08:46 PM »
Now I'm keeping a much closer eye on the competition than I ever did before, including bodies and whole systems. I can't say that I'm going to jump ship, but a few years ago even the thought of considering it never entered my mind. I guess I was confident that Canon would always be the best value gear (FF) for me. But the competition is fierce in every arena today, and Canon needs to to go all in to stay ahead.

well i am unable to guess what your talking about.
micro four third?

because when i look at nikon... i see exactly the same happen.
just look at the AF-S 70-200mm f2.8 II or the new 80-400mm.

ok the D800 looks like a good deal at first.
but beside the great sensor in the D800 i think the 5D MK3 is overall the better camera.

sony?  ;D

pentax?

you don´t even know how long they will stay commited to DSLR cameras.
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« Reply #28 on: April 29, 2013, 12:24:59 PM »
Today there is no real alternative to the 100-400. Canon knows that. But I´ll be glad, thath the other manufacturers will react on this situation.

so in 2 years we maybe have an alternative...  ;)

Maybe. Just think of the new Sigmas. Why should this not be possible?

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« Reply #29 on: April 29, 2013, 12:26:02 PM »
Today there is no real alternative to the 100-400. Canon knows that. But I´ll be glad, thath the other manufacturers will react on this situation.

so in 2 years we maybe have an alternative...  ;)

Maybe. Just think of the new Sigmas. Why should this not be possible?

oh i hope it is.

only.. it´s a long time.  :(

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« Reply #29 on: April 29, 2013, 12:26:02 PM »