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1D Mark V Information [CR1]
« on: August 07, 2011, 02:11:22 PM »
1D Mark V Featureset Rumors I received an email today outlining additional features of the upcoming 1D Mark V. Please note I do not yet have a [CR3] confirmation of a 1D Mark V being announced in August.

  • The 1D Mark V will have “built-in cropping”. You will be able to choose between full frame (32.4 mp), APS-H (27 mp) and APS-C (21 mp).
  • You can buy additional focusing screens to emulate cropping.
  • The fps are linked to the cropping factor. You can get 8.4 fps with APS-C and only 3.1 fps with full frame.
  • sRAW1 and sRAW2 is possible to speed up fps.
  • Burst mode will give you a max of 10.1 fps depending on the image size and buffer.
  • Expect some video tweaks.
  • RAW video was only enabled for the engineers.
  • Either a 24-70 II (no IS) or a 35 II will be announced with it.
CR’s Take This is a BIG [CR1], rumor stuff is starting to heat up. I am going to post stuff that has at least ideas that are plausible.
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1D Mark V Information [CR1]
« on: August 07, 2011, 02:11:22 PM »

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Re: 1D Mark V Information [CR1]
« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2011, 02:15:17 PM »
The fps are linked to the cropping factor. You can get ~8,4 fps with APS-C and only ~3,1 fps with full frame.

Burst mode will give you a max of 10,1 fps depending on the image size and buffer.

How difficult it is to create a credible spec list ?
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« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2011, 02:17:57 PM »
The different resolutions for the different crop factors don't even match up with the sensor's resolution.

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Re: 1D Mark V Information [CR1]
« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2011, 02:20:42 PM »
The fps are linked to the cropping factor. You can get ~8,4 fps with APS-C and only ~3,1 fps with full frame.

How difficult it is to create a credible spec list ?

I don't think FPS linked to cropping is all that far fetched, Nikon does it.
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Re: 1D Mark V Information [CR1]
« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2011, 02:21:17 PM »
The different resolutions for the different crop factors don't even match up with the sensor's resolution.

The numbers are off, but the idea may be true. Especially if the 1D/1Ds line is being amalgamated.
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« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2011, 02:24:04 PM »
The different resolutions for the different crop factors don't even match up with the sensor's resolution.

The numbers are off, but the idea may be true. Especially if the 1D/1Ds line is being amalgamated.
I have nothing against the idea (it seems very reasonable) but whoever sent this list in really needs to try harder!  ::)

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Re: 1D Mark V Information [CR1]
« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2011, 02:28:33 PM »
I do know wrong specs are leaked on purpose.
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« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2011, 02:31:49 PM »
The fps linked with cropping makes sense, the 3 fps for FF 32mp and 8 fps for APS-C 21mp is just too slow for the 1DV. The old and slow 5DII has 21mp with 3.9 fps, not far from the 32mp @ 3fps
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Re: 1D Mark V Information [CR1]
« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2011, 02:35:28 PM »
Unless they're doing what they did with the xxD series and change what the line means.

I'm a bit confused about what I'm getting sent this way, I'm posting about half of it. I'm waiting for the proven sources to speak up, I think we'll be hearing from them in the next week or so.
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« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2011, 02:41:10 PM »
Unless they're doing what they did with the xxD series and change what the line means.

That would be interesting. I do expect something different from the usual. Split 5D's, IDs/1D merge or anything we never thought about !
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« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2011, 02:48:12 PM »
<li>The fps are linked to the cropping factor. You can get 8.4 fps with APS-C and only 3.1 fps with full frame.</li>

<li>Burst mode will give you a max of 10.1 fps depending on the image size and buffer.</li>
Yeah, this doesn't make much sense. If FF is 3.1 fps and APS-C is 8.4 fps, why is the max burst rate 10.1 fps?

Is it saying APS-H would be 10.1 fps? Why would they need to bring it back down to 8.4 for APS-C?

I just don't think any of those sound right.

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Re: 1D Mark V Information [CR1]
« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2011, 02:49:58 PM »
I don't think FPS linked to cropping is all that far fetched, Nikon does it.

At the same time the shut the metering off, that makes more sense if the mirror doesn't move fast enough for a good reading or unobstructed view.

And sRaw for higher FPS seems arbitary to counterproductive; sRaw gets the whole image demosaics it and reencodes the downsized image. Just writing the original file into the buffer would be faster, sufficient buffer memory isn't that expensive. At 60MB per frame 2GB of common RAMs would allow for ~30 RAWs...

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« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2011, 02:50:45 PM »
I do know wrong specs are leaked on purpose.
Fair enough!  I would at least have figured the math would be correct.  Perhaps I hope for too much :)

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« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2011, 03:19:48 PM »
I do know wrong specs are leaked on purpose.
By whom?  I can guess the purposes...alright, maybe you won't be replying to this one, but I'll ask anyway.

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« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2011, 03:23:27 PM »
<li>The fps are linked to the cropping factor. You can get 8.4 fps with APS-C and only 3.1 fps with full frame.</li>

<li>Burst mode will give you a max of 10.1 fps depending on the image size and buffer.</li>
Yeah, this doesn't make much sense. If FF is 3.1 fps and APS-C is 8.4 fps, why is the max burst rate 10.1 fps?

Is it saying APS-H would be 10.1 fps? Why would they need to bring it back down to 8.4 for APS-C?
That is an obviously wrong conclusion to draw - either, as you say, somebody really goofed, or there's another, more plausible explanation:  sRAW or some other mode will offer that speed.  I don't think it's incompatible.

I'm also not seeing where "the math is wrong" on the various resolutions and sensor sizes - it's quite possible that the numbers are just fudged and the real target is the resolution size, not the resulting angle of view from the crop.  I would agree that it would be a big mistake to link APS-C and APS-H "crops" to a bogus sensor size, but we don't actually know the size of the sensor - it may be slightly bigger or smaller than previous "full frame" sensors, especially if it's a Sony make...though please keep in mind I'm just speaking from my own rumors and haven't run any numbers / dug up any specs to say this, so I could be very wrong too!

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Re: 1D Mark V Information [CR1]
« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2011, 03:23:27 PM »