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Need Some Advice
« on: May 01, 2013, 01:39:36 AM »
A friend of mine has guilt tripped me into shooting his wedding. I warned him, over and over again, that I'm not a pro, can't guarantee anything, nor do I have the talent and equipment that a professional shooter does, but he insisted.

Still, I want to do the best I can. To that end, I have money to get one nice lens before I go to the wedding. It's going to be in the evening and the reception at night. Both out doors. What would you suggest?

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Need Some Advice
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Re: Need Some Advice
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2013, 01:47:55 AM »
do you mean you have the EF85 f1.8?

if so i suggest getting the sigma 35 f1.4

i would use the 24-105 and the flash for the majority where you will be stopped down
for the reception stick with the 35 and the 85

those 3 lenses and your flash

the sigma 35 on your T2i will be more like a 50 on FF too to use concurrently witht he 5D and 24-105
then for the reception you could go the 35 on the FF and the 85 on the crop

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Re: Need Some Advice
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2013, 03:37:08 AM »
LOL, I hear you :)

You have good equipment. It might be me, but shooting in ettl mode with my 430 and 580 gives a harder light in my eyes than with my 600. So if you can borrow a 600 and possibly a ST-E2 and a lightstand (also a softbox) for the groupshot?

There is also a long thread (can't remember the name now) with a guy in your situation (2 months ago) where you will find a lot of helpful comments from experienced wedding shooters.

Good luck, and shoot in Raw and have lots of storage with you. Easily 3000 shots for such an event :)
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« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2013, 04:15:08 AM »
LOL, I hear you :)

You have good equipment. It might be me, but shooting in ettl mode with my 430 and 580 gives a harder light in my eyes than with my 600. So if you can borrow a 600 and possibly a ST-E2 and a lightstand (also a softbox) for the groupshot?

There is also a long thread (can't remember the name now) with a guy in your situation (2 months ago) where you will find a lot of helpful comments from experienced wedding shooters.

Good luck, and shoot in Raw and have lots of storage with you. Easily 3000 shots for such an event :)
That was Blaydese who posted it, I think it's called 'First paid photoshoot' or something.

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Re: Need Some Advice
« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2013, 04:20:32 AM »
as pointed out, you have most of the gear anyway and as long as you know how to use it you'll be fine.

I would suggest also getting a 50mm either 1.2 or 1.4

I shoot weddings with just the 50mm and the 28-105mm and the 28-105mm hardly gets used other than for groups.

for my next wedding I'm going to get that sigma art 35mm and see how that goes as some guy I was 2nd shooting for last month used one with some nice results. I do do a lot of upright shots though and he shoots all landscape. horses for courses I guess, it just depends on your style.
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Re: Need Some Advice
« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2013, 04:49:59 AM »
If it is not too dark I would bring a good tele (like the 70-200 f2.8 ) for the reception too. I like to shoot people from a distance without them noticing – much more natural than the cheesy smiles you get when they are aware of being photographed (just my two cents).
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Re: Need Some Advice
« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2013, 05:33:46 AM »
I would get some kind of 35/1.4 (perhaps the new Sigma 35/1.4 HSM).
You must (and you do) have 2 bodies for event photography like wedding, because some great moments may be lost due to lens changing procedures.
5D3+35/1.4 and T2i+85/1.8 would be my choice + 2 more viewing angles are available if you switch the lenses. 28/2.8 IS USM may be great for wide angle or video, but 24-105L may do as well + as a backup lens.
One thing to worry about is lighting, you have only 1 speedlite and T2i pop-up flash. Second speedlite may be a good idea.
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« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2013, 02:31:50 PM »
Wow! Thanks everyone for the responses. I really appreciate the advice as well as set up ideas.


Seems like a 35 1.4 is the lens that keeps being mentioned. I was reading about the new Sigma art one the other night. Seems really good though a couple of user reviews mentioned that the Bokeh is bad. The 35L is about $300 more right now. Would it be worth spending the extra for the L?

I'd love to get the 70-200 2.8 that was mentioned, but it's out of my price range. I'm trying to stay less than $1000.

I love my little nifty-fifty, though I use the 85 more on the 5D and the 50 on the T2i. I'll probably pick up a nicer 50mm like the 1.4. 

I'm  limited to the one speedlight I have, and I definitely need to practice with it. Would a mini lens mount soft box be advisable?

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Re: Need Some Advice
« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2013, 03:01:38 PM »
If it is not too dark I would bring a good tele (like the 70-200 f2.8 ) for the reception too. I like to shoot people from a distance without them noticing – much more natural than the cheesy smiles you get when they are aware of being photographed (just my two cents).

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Re: Need Some Advice
« Reply #9 on: May 01, 2013, 03:05:17 PM »
Wow! Thanks everyone for the responses. I really appreciate the advice as well as set up ideas.


Seems like a 35 1.4 is the lens that keeps being mentioned. I was reading about the new Sigma art one the other night. Seems really good though a couple of user reviews mentioned that the Bokeh is bad. The 35L is about $300 more right now. Would it be worth spending the extra for the L?

I'd love to get the 70-200 2.8 that was mentioned, but it's out of my price range. I'm trying to stay less than $1000.

I love my little nifty-fifty, though I use the 85 more on the 5D and the 50 on the T2i. I'll probably pick up a nicer 50mm like the 1.4. 

I'm  limited to the one speedlight I have, and I definitely need to practice with it. Would a mini lens mount soft box be advisable?

Check around the used market for 70-200 ---I am currently using the 2.8 non-IS version (used from $900-1200).  If you have steady hands its an amazing lens. 

Also ---  consider renting gear for the weekend. 

mini softbox...ehhhh...I would go with a cheaper diffuser...http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/749442-REG/Vello_BD_C430_Bounce_Dome_Diffuser_for.html

Also, within the budget you state ---consider snagging an extra flash and a few cheap triggers (to take the flashes off camera
« Last Edit: May 01, 2013, 03:08:45 PM by Chuck Alaimo »
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Re: Need Some Advice
« Reply #10 on: May 01, 2013, 04:04:19 PM »
you seem to have all you need...
5DIII and 24-105
get a 600 flash instead of a new lens ,,, this new flash works well with the new cameras!
learn the flash features... keep it on the camera and dont get fancy if you are not used to shooting weddings... maybe get / rent a battery pack... bring second body and lens for back up... but keep it simple...
tripod for group shots....
go to the rehearsal and plan where you should be... and an alternate spot.
get the schedule of events and keep it simple.
good luck

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« Reply #11 on: May 01, 2013, 05:01:23 PM »
So you got guilt tripped into working at your friend's wedding?! No party times for you.
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« Reply #12 on: May 01, 2013, 05:28:47 PM »
You have all you need except: confidence & experience.

Crack the manual.  Get your partner kids neighbour colleagues to pose in low light conditions. practice. practice. practice.


oh and practice.

Train hard fight easy.

think 'i'm possible' not impossible.

don't buy any more gear.

you want to spend your time taking pics, not changing lenses or fretting about which of your primes to use.

Put the 28 on the 5D.  Put the 50mm on the T2i.  Have the 85mm in your pocket.


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« Reply #13 on: May 01, 2013, 06:01:51 PM »
You have all you need except: confidence & experience.

Crack the manual.  Get your partner kids neighbour colleagues to pose in low light conditions. practice. practice. practice.


oh and practice.

Train hard fight easy.

think 'i'm possible' not impossible.

don't buy any more gear.

you want to spend your time taking pics, not changing lenses or fretting about which of your primes to use.

Put the 28 on the 5D.  Put the 50mm on the T2i.  Have the 85mm in your pocket.

VERY good advice! 

another option is 24-105 on 5d3, and 50 on t2i with 85 in pocket
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Re: Need Some Advice
« Reply #14 on: May 01, 2013, 06:21:59 PM »
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There have been a couple of good "OMG I'm Being Forced to Shoot a Wedding" threads in the last few months. Research them as they have great info that will serve you well.

If you're getting a lens, I can't think of a "nicer" one than the new Sigma 34 f/1.4. I've been using it for a month and have found it staggeringly good. You won't go wrong if you get the Canon 35mm instead -- except you'll have $300 or so fewer dollars in your pocket. As for the bokeh deficiency, I think that's been pretty well disproved (probably a red herring started by the Canon peanut gallery to begin with). Either way, I'd go into such an event with one of the two.
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