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Re: Buy 1DX now or wait for an upgrade?
« Reply #45 on: May 04, 2013, 02:58:07 PM »
Ok, let me get this straight…..a 7k camera without a lens just for shooting 'books'? And you are bummed the crummiest lens in the lineup won't work with it?

How about meeting this issue halfway? Get a 6D and a few amazing pieces of glass. You'll have a couple grand left over for  getting your boat repainted.

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« Reply #46 on: May 04, 2013, 03:07:45 PM »
Since you are after perfection or as close to it as possible, I would advise against the 1DX in your situation.  The body is just a small part of the camera budget and I take it from your reaction that cost eventually will become an object if you start purchasing the proper tools.  Comparing my old Rebel T2i/T3i to my 5D3 images at low ISOs, I can't tell any difference using top glass on them.
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« Reply #47 on: May 04, 2013, 03:33:27 PM »
Are you serious that those two lenses will not work on the DX1?

In case you didn't know, EF-S lenses extend further into the camera when mounted to provide a narrower image circle that's closer to the sensor of an APS-C camera. This brings benefits in design and cost when using a smaller sensor. EF-S lenses can't and should never be mounted on FF cameras, as that can affect (I think actually break) the camera's mirror (a FF camera has a larger sensor and a correspondently larger mirror).

As others have mentioned, if you're interested in top IQ, then glass would be a priority regardless of camera. There are a number of benefits to going to a FF camera IQ-wise. I already said that a 6D or a 5D mkiii with the 24-70mm mkii will give you a great general purpose kit.

A solid tripod and head are priorities if I'm getting right in my head what you want to shoot. Great camera support doesn't come cheap, but it's usually a good investment.
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Re: Buy 1DX now or wait for an upgrade?
« Reply #48 on: May 04, 2013, 03:40:24 PM »
Want to comment, but recent post by OP seem to lend to a not so genuine thread - sorry if that is not the case.

But i'm puzzled by some one who has followed this forum and not realised that:

IQ is as much (more some would say) than body
Top End Canon bodies require top end (usually expensive) glass
Opted for a 1DX because it is 'the best' - but that is such a subjective statement. I would argue that Medium Format will take a lot of beating for IQ - and Hassalblad prices are not that much more for body and lens than the 1DX with an L lens. The MF cameras just don't do moving subjects like a 1DX - so which is 'the best'?

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« Reply #49 on: May 04, 2013, 03:43:58 PM »
Word... a good tripod + head will cost a few thousand easy, especially with a heavier body.  Then he needs to look at lighting options as well.  Body is starting to look like a small factor in the scheme of things.
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Re: Buy 1DX now or wait for an upgrade?
« Reply #50 on: May 04, 2013, 03:53:02 PM »
Right now, I am just taking pictures of books. I want the camera for the best still pictures there are. I went on Sigma's site and saw that pictures there were significantly better than what my camera produces. I want that same quality.

I have a 18-55mm and a 55-250mm. Both Canon. I am pleased with both. I am not a specialist in cameras though.

Well we know there are a number of factors that affect the quality of a picture besides the camera, such as lenses, camera supports, lighting, post-production, and sheer technique.

It can be argued that comparable IQ can be delivered by all current Canon FF cameras under a wide range of conditions, so you can consider the Canon 5D mkiii and even the 6D if you're mostly taking pictures of static objects.

If you go into a FF camera, one thing that will need to upgrade is your lenses. Your EF-S lenses won't work on any Canon FF camera, and better lenses may be needed to deliver top IQ anyway. As you upgrade consider the EF 24-70mm mkii, a 70-200mm tele to replace the 55-250mm, and perhaps some primes regarding your needs.

Are you serious that those two lenses will not work on the DX1?

It's true.
But considering you will primarily be shooting books and you say you have the money for a 1DX, it would be a better idea to buy a 5DIII (half the cost of a 1DX) and use the difference to upgrade your lenses.
Then, in a year or two, you will have a better understanding of your needs and what you may or may not be lacking from that set up. At that time, the question of the rumored high MP body will be answered and we'll know more about where Canon is heading regarding studio/landscape vs. sports/pj bodies...including the 1DX replacement.
I shoot with a 1DX and I love it. But I am mainly shooting moving subjects often in dim, ever changing light. I need the speed and the high ISO capabilities. This body has given me the ability to use one body instead of two. I used to shoot with the 1DIV & 1DsIII. The 1DsIII was used mainly for performer headshots. At this point I am satisfied that the 1DX images for headshots are as good as the 1DsIII's. The slight diff in MP doesn't matter in my case (I really need to sell the 2 cams I'm no longer using), however I will likely be very interested in the high MP body.
If you purchase a 5DIII and a few good L lenses, when the next gen bodies are announced/released you will know whether it makes sense for you to upgrade.
Good luck!

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Re: Buy 1DX now or wait for an upgrade?
« Reply #51 on: May 04, 2013, 03:59:54 PM »
really?? The OP only has an 18-55mm and a 55-250mm and people are suggesting him buying a 1DX?

If OP has the money for a 1DX, I'd suggest getting a 5D3 + 2470 II + 70-200 II. Getting a 1DX alone would mean no lens to use for OP :(

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« Reply #52 on: May 04, 2013, 04:02:45 PM »
Want to comment, but recent post by OP seem to lend to a not so genuine thread

+1

Getting a 1DX alone would mean no lens to use for OP :(

To which the OP may reply, "Wait, you mean I need a lens to take a picture with a 1D X??
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Re: Buy 1DX now or wait for an upgrade?
« Reply #53 on: May 04, 2013, 04:21:06 PM »
I would still give the OP the benefit of the doubt, this wouldn't be the first time that I've run into someone with a significant amount of money and unclear needs.

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Re: Buy 1DX now or wait for an upgrade?
« Reply #54 on: May 04, 2013, 05:22:49 PM »
For taking pictures of books?? I need to correct my former statement. How about invest in lights, a 580 exii and a 50 1.8. Maybe buy a dvd or book on photography and lighting. No need for a 1dx for that.
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« Reply #55 on: May 04, 2013, 07:35:10 PM »
How on earth did this thread get to be 4 pages long!

I think, CR should have a one Special "Fun" section for:

Suspect threads (such as this one, and quite a few others of late)
Joke threads
Other topics other than Cameras

Those three topics, and possibly a couple more, can reside in just one sub-forum.

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Re: Buy 1DX now or wait for an upgrade?
« Reply #56 on: May 04, 2013, 08:13:59 PM »
I someone wants the best who are we to discourage them?

Canon could use the money to improve their R&D department...   ::)

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« Reply #57 on: May 04, 2013, 08:15:17 PM »
Taking pics of static subjects in controlled settings - I'd say the body is the least significant factor in this case.  Lens, lighting, support, and most important, knowledge are far more important in getting the shot.  Without having those, the 1DX won't provide any magic.
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« Reply #58 on: May 04, 2013, 10:37:06 PM »
Funny thread, and confirmed: it's not April 1rst ... :P

OP, buy a 6D with a 24-70 f/2.8 II. Coming from 55-250mm on whatever APS-C body, you'll be flat amazed. The rest is just skill and hard work. The pictures you see in magazines are produced by professionals taking extreme care of every detail. On the shooting set and in post-production. You want to to same ? The 1Dx won't help you a milligram. Rather, invest in books and courses.

A 1Dx requires commitment. It's a tool for the extreme. It's a 3 pounds brick. It's for the pros, the artists, the ultimate enthusiasts, those who may take days for only one picture that satisfy them. If you're not ready to invest in time and perfectionism, don't go for it, you'll be disappointed. How many 1Dx purchased by lottery winners and 300k'ers sitting at home after only 3 months ... ?   

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Re: Buy 1DX now or wait for an upgrade?
« Reply #59 on: May 05, 2013, 12:03:57 AM »
Upgrade will be announced by late October and will ship by January. I'm also waiting.

I know many will disagree but look up the product cycles and dates of the announcement and shipments of both the 1D and 1Ds.
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