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85 1.2mk3 anytime soon?
« on: May 05, 2013, 12:02:07 PM »
I am considering buying the 85 1.2 mk2 but what are the chances of the being upgraded the mk2 has weaknesses thats for sure,i see back in 2010 was the last rumour about this being updated but surely there must be something in the works..thoughts?

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« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2013, 12:07:04 PM »
I was also looking at 85 1.2ii these 2-3 past days and had the same question. Would be interesting to know what other people think about it. 

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« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2013, 12:07:47 PM »
Very unlikely.
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Re: 85 1.2mk3 anytime soon?
« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2013, 12:25:53 PM »
The mk1 was released in 1989 and the mk2 released in 2006.  With the mk2 being only seven years old, and a 17 year span between the mk1 and mk2, I highly doubt there will be an mk3 anytime in the next few years.

But I love my 85mm f/1.2L II.  I'd definitely recommend it if you have the capital to part with. :-)
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Re: 85 1.2mk3 anytime soon?
« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2013, 12:36:03 PM »
What i would like to see is weather sealing,inner focussing and f1.0 :) but honestly i guess your right probably a long way off so i think i will wait till august and go for it :)

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Re: 85 1.2mk3 anytime soon?
« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2013, 12:45:00 PM »
I think we'll start seeing all the MkIIIs when the big megapixel camera finally makes an appearance.
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Re: 85 1.2mk3 anytime soon?
« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2013, 03:01:56 PM »
I certainly hope not.

There are a number of other lenses due for an update. I'm looking at you, 50mm f/1.4
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« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2013, 03:35:40 PM »
There are a number of other lenses due for an update. I'm looking at you, 50mm f/1.4

I hope not - there should be a couple of non-sticker-shock-inducing lenses in Canon's line of lenses.

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Re: 85 1.2mk3 anytime soon?
« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2013, 04:26:10 PM »
i can't imagine what could be improved in a mkIII.  i use the 85 II and i absolutely love it.

LOCA or bokeh chromatic abberation is the only thing i'm not crazy about, but that flaw rears its head in even the best, super-fast lenses.

and besides, with canon's current pricing trend, i wouldn't care to pay 50%-75% more for what likely won't change much - image quality
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« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2013, 12:34:11 AM »
i can't imagine what could be improved in a mkIII.  i use the 85 II and i absolutely love it.

LOCA or bokeh chromatic abberation is the only thing i'm not crazy about, but that flaw rears its head in even the best, super-fast lenses.

and besides, with canon's current pricing trend, i wouldn't care to pay 50%-75% more for what likely won't change much - image quality

There were several persons on CanonRumors who have asked for faster AF. Apparently the USM moves the heavier front elements, which is slower than moving the lighter back elements.

As Canon upgraded the non-L 24mm, 28mm, and 35mm lenses, I wouldn't be surprised if Canon upgraded the 50mm f/1.4 and 85mm f/1.8, the later having some real competition with the new Sigma 85mm f/1.4. This would probably include some IQ improvements & IS. That would close the gap between those two lenses and their f/1.2 bigger brothers, so Canon might decide to upgrade those as well.

This would, of course, not happen over night, and most probably carry the sticker shock that came with the last few upgrades.

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« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2013, 02:19:22 AM »
I agree.  Not anytime soon and definitely not before the big MP camera...
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« Reply #11 on: May 06, 2013, 02:34:25 AM »
What i would like to see is weather sealing,inner focussing and f1.0 :) but honestly i guess your right probably a long way off so i think i will wait till august and go for it :)

85 1.0 would need a 85mm front element at least. if you search better IQ then 1.0 will do much worse than 1.2 or 1.4, compromises quickly increase. Further, costs would increase dramaticly, not only profit. If we look back the last years, openings of new versions were slower not faster, in my opinion for two reason, first to make IQ improvements possible and second to improve profit.

At unliked DXO there is an article which tries to proofe, that sensor efficiency lowers below f=2.0 dramatically, and that the cameras compensate this by improoving ISO secretely. If this is true, the only gain from a lens below f1.4 is shallower depth of field, which makes almost all of the picture blured, so border sharpness doesnt matter as much as for other applications.

Taking this into account makes the currrent version of this lens look even better and even more specialised compared to the f1.8 version.

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« Reply #12 on: May 06, 2013, 04:01:00 AM »
What i would like to see is weather sealing,inner focussing and f1.0 :) but honestly i guess your right probably a long way off so i think i will wait till august and go for it :)

It'll be a long wait I'de say, the sharpness of the 85f/1.2 L II just cant be beat, contrast/colour are excellent, it was a little slow to focus on my 5DMK II & 1DMK IV, but since I've gone to the 5DMK III & in particular the 1Dx, no complaints about the auto focus set up any more.

Your right, if it was more weather sealed I would feel more confident to use it in more extreme conditions, but I used it on the "Snow Monkeys" in Japan at Nagano in December, snowed an absolute bitch & the temperature was well below freezing, on the 1Dx the Lens performed a complete treat.
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« Reply #13 on: May 06, 2013, 10:25:42 AM »
i can't imagine what could be improved in a mkIII.  i use the 85 II and i absolutely love it.

LOCA or bokeh chromatic abberation is the only thing i'm not crazy about, but that flaw rears its head in even the best, super-fast lenses.

and besides, with canon's current pricing trend, i wouldn't care to pay 50%-75% more for what likely won't change much - image quality

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Re: 85 1.2mk3 anytime soon?
« Reply #14 on: May 06, 2013, 04:52:42 PM »
Not anytime soon.

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